Fratton Fred wrote: » This. When the IRA were busy bombing English shopping centres .
Fratton Fred wrote: » This. When the IRA were busy bombing English shopping centres the support for the Loyalist cause would have been fairly high, the enemy of my enemy and all that.
al28283 wrote: » Don't be ridiculous
FetchTheGin wrote: » As opposed to British Paratroopers killing the innocent people in Derry and Ballymurphy indiscriminately. Honestly, your one sided view on things is tiresome now FF.
gurramok wrote: » So the English condoned murder in their name? Absolute BS and a slur on the average British citizen.
Fratton Fred wrote: » Oh noes, did someone criticise the IRA??? It isn't one sided, it is the truth. Just as it is the truth that the two incidents you mention above created support for the IRA.
karma_ wrote: » Truth about NI? Fred, you know about as much truth about NI as my arse knows about snipe shooting.
Fratton Fred wrote: » This. When the IRA were busy bombing English shopping centres the support for the Loyalist cause would have been fairly high, the enemy of my enemy and all that. Now that has all stopped most people couldn't care less and would go with whatever the majority wanted. A revised campaign in England by the C/R IRA would turn that support back to the unionist cause.
stewie01 wrote: » Its pretty much inevitable that in the near future Ireland will be restored back to a united island. My question is when? predictions welcome
karma_ wrote: » Does it strike anyone else as a bit stupid having a 'never' option, given the nature of History, and the knowledge that everything is constantly in a state of change?
Chuck Stone wrote: » I find it amusing that 'Never', the stupidest answer, got the highest number of votes. Just goes to show the level of thought that these 'nevurrrs' put into their choices and answers.
Chuck Stone wrote: » Never is what people said about Paisley and McGuiness sitting together havin' a laugh in a devolved NI parliament. Never is what people would have said about Q.E. II Laying a wreath in the GoR and speaking Irish. 'Never' is a very long time and the future is extremely unpredictable. Choosing 'never' in this example is an emotional reaction rather than a considered one.
Leftist wrote: » If anything it's more likely to remain within the U.K longer than Scotland or Wales.
Cú Giobach wrote: » Actually Fred you have it quite wrong (as with most of your reasoning about Irish matters), during the troubles and bombings in Britain, support for a UI was high (with the majority for re-unification). This has dropped since the peace process too off, with people taking the views of the majority in NI into consideration because they are no longer affected by the situation and subsequently do not actively want to get rid of it. Another campaign would reverse this change, with support again rising for a UI. Check this graph from here (you need to log in to view the main site).
Chuck Stone wrote: » If Wales and Scotland left the union is would become even more apparent how much of a cancerous lump NI is as regards the health of the English body-economic. That is, unless NI somehow became a economic miracle and nearest thing NI had to an economic miracle in recent decades was feeding the boom in the south.
Fratton Fred wrote: » It is odd that in 1994 the pro unification opinion peaked and then dropped. I wonder what happened in 1994 and cause this and what happened in 2004 and 2006 to cause it to drop?
Fratton Fred wrote: » As Keith says, could you explain where I am wrong, oh knowledgeable snipe shooting arse one.
karma_ wrote: » If you have to rely on what Keith says, the chances are you're most definitely in the wrong. I'm from the North, lived through the troubles and I constantly roll my eyes when I see NI discussed on this forum, both from the likes of yourself and from posters south of the border. The reality is that few know what it was really like unless you lived through it. I have no knowledge of snipe shooting, that was the whole point of that saying, yet it went sailing merrily over your head.
KeithAFC wrote: » Stop going back on what you said. What did he say which was factually wrong? The truth is he posted the truth. It is a historical fact.
karma_ wrote: » Keith, the same applies to you. What are you 21? The troubles we suffered up here were well over by the time you were out of nappies.
KeithAFC wrote: » Why are you changing the discussion? Stick to the question.
Fratton Fred wrote: » Its funny. Keith is the only regular poster on here who lives in NI and yet no one ever listens to him. Whereas posters down here (present company excepted of course) deem themselves to be experts. I would never try and guess what life is/was like in NI, all I can do is give an opinion of it from my side of the water. Bloody Sunday is often quoted as the best recruitment campaign the IRA, imho, the IRA were the biggest barrier to a united Ireland. I got the bit about snipe shooting by the way......
The reality is that few know what it was really like unless you lived through it.
karma_ wrote: » You know Keith, I genuinely feel sorry for you, you're just the product of your environment, just like your opposite number on the falls. Both are blissfully unaware of the lunacy that went on up here and cherry pick their heroes. Northern Ireland is a much different place now than it was in the 70's and 80's, it has taken the first steps toward growing up, and given more time, extremists on both sides will become increasingly more redundant. So I'm optimistic. As for the question in hand, will there be a United Ireland? I wouldn't rule it out, like I posted earlier, to say never is just about as idiotic as you can get.
KeithAFC wrote: » Don't. Very proud to be an Ulster Loyalist.
sensibleken wrote: » pride is like your genitals. It feels nice but if you rub it in other peoples face you look crazy
