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Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 11/12 - Mod Note 4153

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michael999999

In fairness, Savage couldnt give a f**k.

Maybe Paullys real problem is he knows the club he supports will never have a player of Suarez quality. Jealousy is a funny thing!

michael999999

cambo2008 wrote: »

Robbie Savage would tell you differently.

El Hadji Diouf and Joey Barton ain't exactly world class either.

Funny you never mentioned Nani or Roy Keane in your little list of hated players!

Will I Amnt

michael999999 wrote: »

cambo2008 wrote: »

Robbie Savage would tell you differently.

El Hadji Diouf and Joey Barton ain't exactly world class either.

Funny you never mentioned Nani or Roy Keane in your little list of hated players!

Eh,my point is you don't have to be a great player to be hated.
rarnes1 said if he was **** he wouldn't be hated.

niallo27

cambo2008 wrote: »

Robbie Savage would tell you differently.

El Hadji Diouf and Joey Barton ain't exactly world class either.

Diouf spat on fans and joey barton was jailed for assault. How can you compare suarez to these two.

Will I Amnt

niallo27 wrote: »

cambo2008 wrote: »

Robbie Savage would tell you differently.

El Hadji Diouf and Joey Barton ain't exactly world class either.

Diouf spat on fans and joey barton was jailed for assault. How can you compare suarez to these two.

You left out Savage.

My point is its not to do with their ability that they are hated.

Ferris_Bueller

Maybe Suarez is hated because he bit a player in a match playing for Ajax, or stopped Ghana by cheating in the world cup quarter final? Add them to the fact that he is a great player and moans a fair bit on the pitch, I can see plenty of reasons why people would hate him.

I like him personally, probably because he plays for Liverpool. But don't be fooled into thinking he is hated because he is such a good player, or because other teams fans are jealous, that would make no sense.

Will I Amnt

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

Maybe Suarez is hated because he bit a player in a match playing for Ajax, or stopped Ghana by cheating in the world cup quarter final? Add them to the fact that he is a great player and moans a fair bit on the pitch, I can see plenty of reasons why people would hate him.

I like him personally, probably because he plays for Liverpool. But don't be fooled into thinking he is hated because he is such a good player, or because other teams fans are jealous, that would make no sense.

Exactly.

niallo27

cambo2008 wrote: »

You left out Savage.

My point is its not to do with their ability that they are hated.

Savage just wound people up, ill give you savage alright, still you have to agree, he wouldnt wind the opposition fans up so mauch if he wasnt a great footballer.

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Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

Maybe Suarez is hated because he bit a player in a match playing for Ajax, or stopped Ghana by cheating in the world cup quarter final? Add them to the fact that he is a great player and moans a fair bit on the pitch, I can see plenty of reasons why people would hate him.

I like him personally, probably because he plays for Liverpool. But don't be fooled into thinking he is hated because he is such a good player, or because other teams fans are jealous, that would make no sense.

Of course not, but if was a terrible player no-one would bother as much with him.

Anyway, who cares?

niallo27

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

Maybe Suarez is hated because he bit a player in a match playing for Ajax, or stopped Ghana by cheating in the world cup quarter final? Add them to the fact that he is a great player and moans a fair bit on the pitch, I can see plenty of reasons why people would hate him.

I like him personally, probably because he plays for Liverpool. But don't be fooled into thinking he is hated because he is such a good player, or because other teams fans are jealous, that would make no sense.

I have to disagree with this, if he stoped ghana by cheating he would have got away with the handball and their would have being no pen and he wouldnt have being sent off, how is it cheating when you dont get away with it.

Morzadec

Seems crazy to me that he hasn't got a call up yet. He's been our standout performer this year, with performances ranging from solid to excellent.

Pace, Strength, composure, an eye for a pass, a willingness to get forward, a decent cross. He has everything you would want in a left back.

It's funny cos it's probably the only area Spain are lacking in quality. I live with a Spaniard who knows his football (in Spain at least) and when I asked him and his friend why Enrique wasn't getting a look in they responded with blank faces and asked 'Who?' They hadn't even heard of him!

Surely the Spanish national team must have scouts watching him and it's only a matter of time before he's called up?

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Morzadec wrote: »

Seems crazy to me that he hasn't got a call up yet. He's been our standout performer this year, with performances ranging from solid to excellent.

Pace, Strength, composure, an eye for a pass, a willingness to get forward, a decent cross. He has everything you would want in a left back.

It's funny cos it's probably the only area Spain are lacking in quality. I live with a Spaniard who knows his football (in Spain at least) and when I asked him and his friend why Enrique wasn't getting a look in they responded with blank faces and asked 'Who?' They hadn't even heard of him!

Surely the Spanish national team must have scouts watching him and it's only a matter of time before he's called up?

I hope he never gets a call up :cool:

Ferris_Bueller

niallo27 wrote: »

I have to disagree with this, if he stoped ghana by cheating he would have got away with the handball and their would have being no pen and he wouldnt have being sent off, how is it cheating when you dont get away with it.

Okay fair point, cheating maybe not the correct word, but extreme unsporting behaviour. I don't really care on the matter who hates or doesn't hate him, so don't particularly want to get into a debate.

Will I Amnt

niallo27 wrote: »

still you have to agree, he wouldnt wind the opposition fans up so mauch if he wasnt a great footballer.

It adds to it alright but generally people that play-act and go down easily will be hated regardless of how good they are,add to that the worldcup incident(I've no problem with that) and biting incident(that's why you can compare him with Diouf and Barton) and then you have to see why.

tommyhaas

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

or stopped Ghana by cheating in the world cup quarter final?

Cheating by its nature is underhand and meant to deceive. Suarez's handball wasn't cheating, as it was blatant. It was essentially a professional foul. Diving is cheating, as its intended to deceive, as was Maradona's goal in 86, but Suarez handled the ball was not not meant to deceive. He committed a foul and was happy to face the consequences

[Deleted User]

I would hope that any Liverpool player would do the same if required.

That_Guy

michael999999 wrote: »

In fairness, Savage couldnt give a f**k.

Maybe Paullys real problem is he knows the club he supports will never have a player of Suarez quality. Jealousy is a funny thing!

I dunno about that. They might use that 20 MILLION your lot paid for JORDAN HENDERSON to purchase a player of similar traits.

jesus_thats_gre

What is with the really petty posts over the past day or so?

michael999999

cambo2008 wrote: »

It adds to it alright but generally people that play-act and go down easily will be hated regardless of how good they are,add to that the worldcup incident(I've no problem with that) and biting incident(that's why you can compare him with Diouf and Barton) and then you have to see why.

Dont forget Keane the delibarate leg breaker in that list of hated players! Not to mention him abandoning Ireland at the World cup. Charming guy really.

Leiva

That_Guy wrote: »

I dunno about that. They might use that 20 MILLION your lot paid for JORDAN HENDERSON to purchase a player of similar traits.

Give us a shout when they find a player of Suarezs caliber for £20mil.£16mil

Will I Amnt

michael999999 wrote: »

cambo2008 wrote: »

It adds to it alright but generally people that play-act and go down easily will be hated regardless of how good they are,add to that the worldcup incident(I've no problem with that) and biting incident(that's why you can compare him with Diouf and Barton) and then you have to see why.

Dont forget Keane the delibarate leg breaker in that list of hated players! Not to mention him abandoning Ireland at the World cup. Charming guy really.

Was Keane ****???? No
Are you incapable of understanding my point or just ignoring it???

Kess73

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

What is with the really petty posts over the past day or so?

As good a reason as any for many of the regulars to not bother posting until there is some new LFC news to discuss or at least until a less petty run of topics starts.

niallo27

cambo2008 wrote: »

It adds to it alright but generally people that play-act and go down easily will be hated regardless of how good they are,add to that the worldcup incident(I've no problem with that) and biting incident(that's why you can compare him with Diouf and Barton) and then you have to see why.

Yes but there really seems to be strong hatred out there, diouf and barton were guilty of goading oppisiton fans, suarez has never done this, im trying to think of a crap player that goes down easy and are hated this much and i can't think of any.

ilovelamp2000

niallo27 wrote: »

This is the kinda of hate im talking about and i do think its hate, would it be possible for you to mention anything postive about rafa. Go on and try say something nice about him.

He was brilliant at brainwashing fans via the media.

ilovelamp2000

Paully D wrote: »

How many footballing superpowers are currently looking for a manager? The man also wants to get a job in England where his family are based. He's right to wait on the right offer to come around, and a manager of his ability will eventually get it.

No big clubs will touch him because of his inability to work with anybody and the blame games he'll constantly play to divert from his own shortcomings - he's got a superb track record of falling out with everybody at his last three clubs and blaming everybody else for anything that goes wrong.

His footballing philosophy is mental too.

redzerdrog

lamp in your honest opinion who was liverpools best manager since kennys 1st stint in charge?

YouTookMyName

ilovelamp2000 wrote: »

He was brilliant at brainwashing fans via the media.

For Fuck sake, he is the only reason Liverpool Football Club is still in existance.

He was the first man to let the fans know want H&G were upto. Which snowballed into the campaign to get rid of them.

If you don't want to believe that and think i'm posting shite fine, but give it up with your childish digs.

If you hate him fair enough. For whatever reason i can't understand.

BERBA

YouTookMyName wrote: »

For Fuck sake, he is the only reason Liverpool Football Club is still in existance.

He was the first man to let the fans know want H&G were upto. Which snowballed into the campaign to get rid of them.

If you don't want to believe that and think i'm posting shite fine, but give it up with your childish digs.

If you hate him fair enough. For whatever reason i can't understand.

gotta be honest when 'arry up sticks and goes to Engurland , no way do i want rafa , i'd rather christian gross back again;)

murpho999

BERBA wrote: »

gotta be honest when 'arry up sticks and goes to Engurland , no way do i want rafa , i'd rather christian gross back again;)

Don't you mean when 'Arry is in jail for tax evasion?

YouTookMyName

BERBA wrote: »

gotta be honest when 'arry up sticks and goes to Engurland , no way do i want rafa , i'd rather christian gross back again;)

Did anyone ask you for your opinion on Rafa?

Could do worse than a European cup winning coach.