Mr.Micro wrote: » As a business man why is he looking for a job then? Surely the role will impact on his business acumen and is he that munificent that he gets nothing out of it but the humble role of President?
Bannasidhe wrote: » I have no idea why he is running. I would conjecture that all the candidates believe they have something to contribute to the role...what they believe they will get from the the position is open to speculation until such time as they are asked.
Bannasidhe wrote: » A fair point - but few football teams have caused as much harm as the political party Gallagher claims to have left.
Liam Byrne wrote: » Maybe. But both McGuinness & Gallagher are running for president, and yet we have people looking for proof from one and looking for "inverse proof" from critics of the other ? It's laughable! They both need to prove that they are not lying. Neither of them has credibility due to their past associations, so their words aren't good enough. Of course, that last line alone should preclude them from a vote, if this country voted sanely and logically.
CDfm wrote: » Bannasidhe wrote: » A fair point - but few football teams have caused as much harm as the political party Gallagher claims to have left. I just wouldn't want to put a higher standard of proof on him that has not been required of others on much more serious issues. And, the social partnership policies could be equally levelled at all political parties that advocated the same economic policies, the unions and moreso the corporatist state that is unelected in Ireland. Liam Byrne wrote: » Maybe. But both McGuinness & Gallagher are running for president, and yet we have people looking for proof from one and looking for "inverse proof" from critics of the other ? It's laughable! They both need to prove that they are not lying. Neither of them has credibility due to their past associations, so their words aren't good enough. Of course, that last line alone should preclude them from a vote, if this country voted sanely and logically. I thought about that, if it did, Alan Dukes would have been the FG candidate. Now I hasn't even considered SG as a candidate but do now & more credible than most.
Mr.Micro wrote: » Indeed, the others to a certain degree want the role as a politician, but SG does not fit that type to waste his business acumen for 7 years? Hmm probably just needs the job ie the salary, maybe as simple as that?
shivDCM wrote: » Association with FF is now more toxic than the IRA. Well deserved and so funny. They should dub anyone from FF with an actors voice.
Liam Byrne wrote: » Alan Dukes?????? Mr Gamekeeper-turned-poacher recommending that we waste even more cash on the Anglo cesspit ? Are you serious ?
Mr.Micro wrote: » As a business man why is he looking for a job then?
CDfm wrote: » In terms of prestige etc , he would have been a fair choice, as a President and would put the countries interests before a party issue.
LostinKildare wrote: » Who puts their photo on their letterhead?? Is he some kind of crazed egotist?
Liam Byrne wrote: » Don't agree. He certainly hasn't put the country's interests first since being installed at Anglo.
Probably a topic for a separate thread, though - although there is a link to Gallagher & FF because of Dukes' appointment and the reasons for same.
expectationlost wrote: » campaigning for fianna fail candidate is campaigning for a fianna fail party their record and for a government thats how are system works
For Mr McGuinness there is, however, the small matter of the IRA. And if he really thinks no one’s interested, why is he so evasive? In interviews and debates, the candidate has insisted that he left the Provos in 1974, and was “never in the Army Council”. Mickey Donnelly, a former colleague of McGuinness’s in the Derry IRA who recruited him to the organisation, told The Sunday Telegraph: “That is totally ridiculous. He is a compulsive liar about anything and everything. He lies even when he doesn’t need to lie.” Anthony Macintyre, a former IRA prisoner who served 18 years for murdering a member of the Ulster Volunteer Force, said Mr McGuinness’s denials “don’t stand up to any form of scrutiny”. According to Ed Moloney, author of perhaps the best-informed history of the IRA, Mr McGuinness was its chief of staff from February 1978 to the autumn of 1982. Subsequently, says Moloney, he was the IRA’s adjutant-general, commander of Northern Command and chairman of the Army Council: top leadership roles throughout the Provos’ most savage years. “I am surprised at Martin McGuinness’s assertion that he stood down from the Provisional IRA in 1974,” says a former Garda commissioner, Patrick Byrne. “I dealt directly with counter-terrorism from 1972 to 1992. McGuinness was a key man in the organisation.” Some of Mr McGuinness’s activities on the IRA’s behalf continue to leave open wounds in Derry. In 1986, the city’s IRA quartermaster, Frank Hegarty, was exposed as a British informant and fled to England. Speaking to The Sunday Telegraph from her home in the Rosemount district, one of Mr Hegarty’s sisters – who refused to give her name – said that Mr McGuinness had lured her brother back from his English safe house to Derry in order that he could be murdered. “[McGuinness] came across as someone you could trust,” she said. “He gave us his word that Frank would be safe if he came back, but we were betrayed by him.” Once Mr Hegarty had returned, the sister said, Mr McGuinness visited the family home several times, eventually persuading her brother to meet the IRA to “straighten things out.” Three days later, his body was found at the side of a road. When asked if she blamed the future presidential candidate for her brother’s death, she replied: “Yes.” How would she feel about Mr McGuinness becoming president of Ireland? “Bad,” she said.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ireland/8815887/Dont-mention-the-IRA-to-Martin-McGuinness.html
CDfm wrote: » And Martin McGuiness supporters are voting for their man who had no involvement in anything. Modern Ireland has the Stickies in coalition with Fine Gael and Sean Gallagher who is fairly unblemished compared to the other candidates and probably reflects Ireland is getting dissed.
irishdude11 wrote: » https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzNRhohYHIA Here he is in 2010 at a friggin Ogra conference going on about how great the members of ogra are and how they will be the "future leaders of the party, and indeed the country". Sure ffs he is as FF as they come. So he says he left FF in 09, yet here is in 2010 at a spouting ****e at an ogra a conference...he initiates the election campaigns of 3 FF TDs back in February...his 'resignation' letter only says he has to 'regrettably' resign from the National Executive because he has a lot going on. Ill say one thing for him, he has that old FF tactic of denying basic reality down to a tee. Like Bertie saying he won it on the horses, or all the spoof Cowen and Lenihan were inflicting on us for the last few years...these FFs will look you straight in the eye and say black is white if they think it will advance their position.
books4sale wrote: » This is all just the Fine Gael / JIm Mitchell machine at work, the best they can do these days is come on boards and spread rubbish. Micky D has the election wrapped up anyway so none of this really matters, its like watchin hungry rats scramblin' for crumbs.
raymon wrote: » Let's not derail the discussion by bringing Mcguinness into this . I personally think he is not fit for office either , but this thread is about whether Gallagher lied ( or not )
raymon wrote: » Please withdraw this comment I started this thread and I am not FG or any party.
I started the thread because I felt one of the candidates was repeatedly telling lies in interviews.
By the way who is Jim Mitchell ?
raymon wrote: » Please withdraw this comment I started this thread and I am not FG or any party. I started the thread because I felt one of the candidates was repeatedly telling lies in interviews.
jonniebgood1 wrote: » You may well have 'felt' this. You have not however clearly shown any clear lie. Rather insinuations based on your interpretation thus it is not likely for people to suspect you have an agenda.
irishdude11 wrote: » He is not fairly unblemished, he is a complete and utter disgrace. There is no point denying reality he was very high up in FF, and has been for years. He was the leader of ogra, he was on the national executive, he was going around campaigning for several FFers at the last election...he has blatantly lied about leaving FF. How can you leave FF yet still campaign for several of their politicians and go in and waffle on at ogra meetings? Do you think Gallagher would show his face at a SF youth meeting? Or a Labour youth meeting? The reason he shows up at the ogra meeting in 2010 is because he is 100% FF. These FF traitors bankrupted the country and have inflicted untold hardship on countless people in Ireland for years to come. It would be absolutely ridiculous to now put a properpty developer, golden circle member, spoofer, 100% Fianna Failer in the Aras. How ****ing stupid are the electorate in this country? If Gallagher still gets a decent vote now that this has been brought out into the open I will lose all faith in the Irish public.
