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How would you feel if your child was gay?

willmunny1990

Personally, and I'm slightly ashamed to say this, but I'd be very disappointed.

I have no problem with gay people, I know a few and get on with them just fine. But, I would be devastated if I found out my child was gay. It would be an unmitigated disaster in my view.

Why? First of all for selfish reasons. I would love to be a grandfather one day and would find it hard to accept of being deprived that aspiration.

Secondly, I think gay people are unfortunately still heavily discriminated against in life. Especially when they are younger and in School. And it is not my wish to have my son go through hardships like this.

So, how would you feel if your child was gay?

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Plautus

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Just how many female mistresses is one required to have

Louis XIV would have been the archetype of serial monogamy in the period. True enough though, I don't think the evidence is particularly conclusive. Still, think of the look on Ian Paisley's face, eh?

Mike 1972

Sure he was Dutch and you know what theyre all like :pac:

Millicent

Abi wrote: »

Who made this about gay people? The thread is about having a gay son or daughter, which for some, their attitude would be different.

I assume my gay son or daughter would be a person, right? I don't have a problem with gay anyone, never mind my own family; my point was, that would extend to any children I might have.

I was arguing more against the implication that "you people who haven't got kids can't say for sure." Sure I can. I know my own mind and feelings. I don't have to give birth to gain insight.

dynamot

I remember reading this somewhere:

Homosexuality is exhibited in 400 species of animals, but homophobia in only one

T0mmy C

skregs wrote: »

Your son will only grow up gay if the father doesn't instill a sense of masculinity in them.
There's no gay men with strong father figures in their lives, or they wouldn't be gay.

So don't worry OP, I'm sure you'll do well.

What a load of ****ing ****e.

strobe

dynamot wrote: »

I remember reading this somewhere:

Homosexuality is exhibited in 400 species of animals, but homophobia in only one

You can hardly blame the hammerhead sharks though man. They're just uneducated and don't really know any better.

Jaxxy

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

*sigh*

And the "everyone agree with me or **** off" train just keeps on rolling.

I love AH, it's basically an opinion by popular consensus...anyone else is WRONG.

Point out where exactly I said everyone else is wrong in my post please:

JaxxYChicK wrote: »

I really don't understand why the term "devastated" is being thrown about so readily here. Surely being devastated that your child is gay is a complete over-exaggeration in this day and age?

Being devastated that you might not get to have grandchildren? IMO, that's a completely selfish reaction. There are much more relevant, important issues to be devastated over IMO.

I've taken the liberty of highlighting the two separate instances where I used the term "IMO" for you, just in case you fail to grasp that I was in fact actually stating my opinion, not demanding everyone agree with me, or calling them WRONG.

Solair

Quite honestly, if you're going to be offended and you're getting upset because your child's gay, short, tall, has blue eyes, is bad at football, has red hair or anything like that you should really reconsider becoming a parent.

Some people are gay like some people are ginger.

Jaxxy

krudler wrote: »

one of my exes brothers came out to his parents (was a surprise to nobody but them, hes not blatantly over the top campy gay but you can pretty much tell upon meeting him he is) and they were horrified. they're still living in 50s catholic ireland though, any talk of anything gay or gay related is glossed over as if its a mortal sin or something. dopes.

This is the kind of thing that makes me sad. It must have been very difficult for your ex's brother to come out, knowing that his parents would be so judgmental or that much in denial. It's horrible when you consider the wealth of other more serious, more threatening problems that some families have to deal with on a daily basis.

My friend's twenty-six year old brother died suddenly the day before yesterday. My boyf's nineteen year old brother has brain cancer. It really helps to put things into perspective for you. There are worse things that can happen than your child coming home and declaring he or she is gay. I just think some people need to get a firmer grip on reality here.

Chuck Stone

How would you feel if your child was gay?

With my fingertips!

Just like always.:pac:

DublinWriter

Two of my son's Godparents are openly gay men.

Personally, I don't see the problem.

It's 2011. What people choose to do with their plumbing is their business.

I don't care how my kids turn out as long as they are good people and pursue their own dreams, not mine.

Unfortunately we're still in the Jurasic age in this country. Even up to ten years ago I would have to laugh at some of the women in their mid-20s I worked with who had to move the bf out of the flat for the weekend when mammy came up to Dublin for a visit.

Solair

To be fair, most of us aren't in the Jurassic age, just the odd Victorian dinosaur roaming around here and there.

I actually find Ireland less conservative than the US and quite a lot of more 'conservative' European countries e.g. Italy or Poland on these kinds of issues.

It's odd actually, Ireland and also Spain seem to have really become very liberal and open minded for two countries that were always considered to be quite staunchly christian conservative. Seems they were more oppressed from the top down by conservative establishments in the past. Once the lid came off, they seem to be pretty liberal and openminded about most things.

Bannasidhe

Solair wrote: »

Quite honestly, if you're going to be offended and you're getting upset because your child's gay, short, tall, has blue eyes, is bad at football, has red hair or anything like that you should really reconsider becoming a parent.

Some people are gay like some people are ginger.

Some people are gay and ginger.

Bannasidhe

strobe wrote: »

You can hardly blame the hammerhead sharks though man. They're just uneducated and don't really know any better.

Bull - I sent them the leaflets, DVDs of Milk, the collected works of Oscar Wilde and paid for a subscription to SKY so they could watch Ellen but they just won't listen!

Mike 1972

Solair wrote: »

I actually find Ireland less conservative than the US and quite a lot of more 'conservative' European countries e.g. Italy or Poland on these kinds of issues.

From my couple of brief visits to Poland and living for a few years with Polish housemates I found them (overgeneralising here) to be more conservative than Ireland in some respects and more liberal in others but overall (particularly rural) Poland kinda has (for better and worse) a bit of a feel of "1970's Ireland with Mobile phones and the Internet" about it.

The RC Church still has a heavy influence on many aspects of life over there but one must remember that until recent years involvment in the Church was regarded (a little paradoxically) as an act of rebellion against the establishment. Also they havent had the sex/abuse scandals to anything like the same extent as Ireland or North America (Maybe because theyve still managed to keep the lid on it -although Im not so sure)

I suspect theyll grow out of it soon enough although the high levels of emigration amongst younger Poles might hold the tide back a bit in the short term.

Oddjob

I'm starting to get the feeling that a lot in here would be devastated if at least one of their kids wasn't a gayer.

Millicent

Oddjob wrote: »

I'm starting to get the feeling that a lot in here would be devastated if at least one of their kids wasn't a gayer.

Gayer than what? A hammerhead shark in denial?

4leto

But Dublin has a very vibrant gay scene and it is a very gay friendly city. So we are not that conservative towards gays. I would say we are even progressive.

Bannasidhe

Millicent wrote: »

Gayer than what? A hammerhead shark in denial?

A hammerhead shark in drag maybe?

oldyouth

I think a lot of posters here who say they wouldn't mind if a child was gay are very aspirational of their true feelings. I think every parent wants the best for their children but also want a bit of reward for themselves. I love my kids to bits but I would be disappointed if they were gay. Not disappointed IN my kids but I don't think it is an easy passage through life

Bannasidhe

4leto wrote: »

But Dublin has a very vibrant gay scene and it is a very gay friendly city. So we are not that conservative towards gays. I would say we are even progressive.

I have found Dublin a wee bit more homophobic (if 'nasty' comments in the street are taken as an indication) then Cork - but not excessively so.

Solair

4leto wrote: »

But Dublin has a very vibrant gay scene and it is a very gay friendly city. So we are not that conservative towards gays. I would say we are even progressive.

Cork's possibly even more so.

Seems extremely main-stream gay, even compared to Dublin.

4leto

Solair wrote: »

Cork's possibly even more so.

Seems extremely main-stream gay, even compared to Dublin.

Never been on the scene in cork I have to say I find Dublin grand.

Sonics2k

Bannasidhe wrote: »

A hammerhead shark in drag maybe?

Singing "In the Wavey"

ba dum tish

Solair

4leto wrote: »

Never been on the scene in cork I have to say I find Dublin grand.

Just regularly see gay guys / girls kissing and being quite 'out' at non-gay-specific venues in Cork. Less so in Dublin in my experience.

Nobody bats an eyelid.

Gay pride flag at Shandon:

Siuin

I would be upset if my child turned out to be gay. If they turned out to be very camp or butch, it would make the situation very difficult. They'd still be my child at the end of the day, but I can't say I would feel the same way about them.

Bannasidhe

Solair wrote: »

Just regularly see gay guys / girls kissing and being quite 'out' at non-gay-specific venues in Cork. Less so in Dublin in my experience.

Nobody bats an eyelid.

Gay pride flag at Shandon:

Nobody would dare bat an eyelid in any Cork venue- look what happened in the Old Oak!

Bannasidhe

Siuin wrote: »

I would be upset if my child turned out to be gay. If they turned out to be very camp or butch, it would make the situation very difficult. They'd still be my child at the end of the day, but I can't say I would feel the same way about them.

What situation would that be?

Siuin

Bannasidhe wrote: »

What situation would that be?

Our relationship

John Doe1

Beat him mercilessly to conform:cool: