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Are we reverting back to the 60's 70's and 80's?

The Jammy dodger

I've seen it mostly in fashion and music. In the early 60's we had a surge in artistic development that lasted for quite a while. But since the year 2000 it looks like we have run out of that artistic development and are now running on steam if anything at all. All the music today is just a bad version, twist and reversion of the 60's, 70's and 80's music not to mention clothing and fashion. I've even seen people try to bring the decco period back into fashion too in clothing.

Whats going on? It seems to me we have run out of ideas and are just at our ropes end. Or maybe it's me that needs to do more exploring? maybe 2011 does have something on offer and I've missed the train?

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d22ontour

We could do with the music from the 60's again, maybe some of the 70's too, 80's was the worst decade for music until the noughties so it can fook right off.

themadchef

d22ontour wrote: »

We could do with the music from the 60's again, maybe some of the 70's too, 80's was the worst decade for music until the noughties so it can fook right off.

Ban Hammer time!

The Jammy dodger

d22ontour wrote: »

We could do with the music from the 60's again, maybe some of the 70's too, 80's was the worst decade for music until the noughties so it can fook right off.

I personally love the music from the sixties but at that time period they were progressing, right now in music and fashion it seems as though we are in a state of regression.

Havermeyer

I don't know. Just once we stay as far away from the 80's, I won't mind.

starlit

Honestly its more like going back to the 80's but don't know what you mean by it going back to the 60's or 70's are not like moving on in time and not going back in time despite history repeating itself on occasion but a lot worse than what it was in history but sometimes better depending on context.

Forward to the future...

My name is URL

Damn Yuppies

starlit

Music wise reverting back to the 70's or 80's maybe but fashion its a mixture of the 60's, 70's and 80's at the moment if that is what the OP is getting at.

mike65

Three decades is a lot to be going back to! So are we wearing mop top hair cuts? Or maybe flowers in our hair? If we had music and movies of those decades I'd be thrilled as it would mean Michael Bay is unemployed. Or better yet not even born.

starlit

hippies

Captain Darling

I'd hate to think we were going back to any of those times. I love music from all those era's but there are still original 'artists' out there, not the tripe that you get thrown at you these days. You just have to look a little harder.

LH Pathe

d22ontour wrote: »

80's was the worst decade for music until the noughties so it can fook right off.

if you'd broken the surface may have been of the opposite view with such a thriving underground. and it wasn't considered a precursor or limbo then, twas the place to be

LH Pathe

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

But since the year 2000 it looks like we have run out of that artistic development and are now running on steam if anything at all.

I like that, turn it up

btw why does so much of the current English indie sound like Mali music, is that the African immigrant influence filtering through?

Naomi00

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

I've seen it mostly in fashion and music. In the early 60's we had a surge in artistic development that lasted for quite a while. But since the year 2000 it looks like we have run out of that artistic development and are now running on steam if anything at all. All the music today is just a bad version, twist and reversion of the 60's, 70's and 80's music not to mention clothing and fashion. I've even seen people try to bring the decco period back into fashion too in clothing.

Whats going on? It seems to me we have run out of ideas and are just at our ropes end. Or maybe it's me that needs to do more exploring? maybe 2011 does have something on offer and I've missed the train?

That's always happened, e.g in the 60's Victorian vintage clothes came into fashion (Jimi Hendrix etc). People have always made new versions of old things, while making new styles as well.

While you might think there is an influence of other decades on music, there is also a lot of new types of music (good or bad) e.g dubstep, new styles of rock etc.
Same with fashion, while lots of styles are based on other decade's fashion there are always new things that haven't been done before, more modern/minimalist styles. Maybe we don't notice these because these are mostly done by high end brands and not worn by most people, but they are still new styles.

I think while it's true that old things come back into fashion, that's something that's been happening for centuries.

maygitchell

I wouldnt mind the 80s, arguably the best music decade ever

Duggy747

I might be a little biased on what decade I like here....

starlit

I liked the 60's and 70's but personally wouldn't want to go back into the 80's since I were born in that decade. Rather stick with the 90's or Naughties! Or just move on in the future! Otherwise happy where I am.

The Jammy dodger

Naomi00 wrote: »

That's always happened, e.g in the 60's Victorian vintage clothes came into fashion (Jimi Hendrix etc). People have always made new versions of old things, while making new styles as well.

While you might think there is an influence of other decades on music, there is also a lot of new types of music (good or bad) e.g dubstep, new styles of rock etc.
Same with fashion, while lots of styles are based on other decade's fashion there are always new things that haven't been done before, more modern/minimalist styles. Maybe we don't notice these because these are mostly done by high end brands and not worn by most people, but they are still new styles.

I think while it's true that old things come back into fashion, that's something that's been happening for centuries.

Thats interesting and proves that there is no music that is original? like everyone has an influence but if there is anything you could call original about their music or clothing ideas is the part where they put their own twist on it?

With that said it would seem strange that we think we are progressing in that area at all.

ejmaztec

The 1960s didn't arrive here until the 1980s, which is why there's so much confusion.

LH Pathe

Duggy747 wrote: »

I might be a little biased on what decade I like here....

well I'm not, '90s was my decade but working through the archives I could see 80's ruled

oh.. Yer personal pref.

Nerdkiller1991

I'm not happy until we get the 90's back. Can't stand this decade and the lack of a real counterculture style, like grunge and everything just seems so sterile, nowadays. Then again, like a certain Stan Marsh, I'm probably seeing s*it.

gurramok

The quality music died when Star Trekkin across the Universe hit No. 1 in 1987 so yeh the 60's, 70's & 80's were great era's for music and fashion. Look at the teenagers today, they would not look dissimilar to yesteryear!

LH Pathe

'90s was still good, but it were the last strains of worthwhile rabble and originality. Pretty much only the embarrassing stuff people stumbled across but refused put out is left to claim as new

but the show must go on. Still talent knocking about, appreciation is not entirely lost either

I looked at the mobo's the other nite, a lot of black justin timberlakes vocoders illuminati worship etc. They're throwing their instruments out the pram now, I thought they were instrumental to music?

Killer Pigeon

We're just going through a brief renaissance period. Nothing wrong with it really, they're happened countless times throughout history.

Oh look! An asparagus! Num, num, num!

Naomi00

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

Thats interesting and proves that there is no music that is original? like everyone has an influence but if there is anything you could call original about their music or clothing ideas is the part where they put their own twist on it?

With that said it would seem strange that we think we are progressing in that area at all.

What I mean is that I think both happen at the same time. We've always used old ideas to make new things, but at the same time there have always been completely new styles of music and fashion being made too (less often in music though, it takes longer for that)

About music being original or not: lots of famous bands, even ones from the 60's have said that they often took pieces of other songs and used them in their own music, like melodies and guitar solos and things like that. I can't remember exactly who but I think maybe the Rolling Stones or the Beatles or someone said it, I've heard lots of bands say that. I don't think there's really anything wrong with it.
Lots of people get annoyed with new music and say that there's nothing original anymore and credit these bands as being great, but the bands themselves admit it, of course they would be influenced by the music they listen to.

Obviously all styles were original at some stage but I think it's been happening for a long time, it's difficuly for anything to be completely original, because most things have to be based on something else.

Jess16

Ok I'll say it. I'm really very sorry for this but it's "REVERTING to the 60's, 70's and 80's" That's right, reverting. All on its own. NOT "reverting back" !!!!

Please God let the rugby start soon

deathrider

I'm just going to roll up the sleeves on my Miami Vice style shirt and wait for all this to blow over.

The Jammy dodger

Thanks Naomi your posts were the most insightful and helpful. I'm definitely guilty that I somehow wish we could revisit an era of music and fashion that best suited society and I think the 60's/70's is it. I even revert to that era in my own musical styles: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90TFXuXxmbM

So all in all I feel like a bit of a hypocrite but funny how I call into question even my own feel for originality.

The Left Hand Of God

It pretty much boils down to the era of those in the media. For example 18/20 years ago a DJ on a radio station grew up with Jim Morrison, as did young film makers etc. Thus the Doors revival and what not.

Now a lot of the radio DJ's were in their teens in the 80's and thus the 80's music you hear a lot on the radio.

The 90's revival will be in about 7-10 years.....

orourkeda

ejmaztec wrote: »

The 1960s didn't arrive here until the 1980s, which is why there's so much confusion.

Radio still hasnt arrived in cavan

Napper Hawkins

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

I've seen it mostly in fashion and music. In the early 60's we had a surge in artistic development that lasted for quite a while. But since the year 2000 it looks like we have run out of that artistic development and are now running on steam if anything at all. All the music today is just a bad version, twist and reversion of the 60's, 70's and 80's music not to mention clothing and fashion. I've even seen people try to bring the decco period back into fashion too in clothing.

Whats going on? It seems to me we have run out of ideas and are just at our ropes end. Or maybe it's me that needs to do more exploring? maybe 2011 does have something on offer and I've missed the train?

1) If by all music you mean whatever the radio or tv tells you to like then yes I agree with you. Otherwise, bollox.

2) Yes, you do. Youtube is your friend. Plenty of amazing and original music on there that will never be touched by the mainstream. Go. Now.