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So, what you playing at the mo? Retro Edition

CiDeRmAn

Me, I'm playing a bit of Metal Slug X, Micromachines, Einhander via PSP and about to play some Daytona on the Saturn, anyone else?

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Jack burton

Ah gears 3, midnight tonight but not for me

work early in the morning so I'll have to get it on my break in the morning and look at it till about 7 tomorrow when i'll finally get home to play it

o1s1n

I got an invite to a prerelease/testing Gears of War 3 session in work a couple of weeks ago. Really wasn't arsed going.

They push that series, Halo and the Kinect console so hard in work and assume I'll like it because I'm the person who 'plays games' on the team. Which means they also look for my positive validation.

'Oh Oisin! There's a Kinect animals preview on, come along. Doesn't Kinect rock?! Isn't it the future of videogames?! We'll make a fortune with this!'

'Oh Oisin! Look at these giant Master Chief cut outs we got in, aren't they awesome!? isn't Master Chief just the most amazing character ever?!'

'Oh Oisin, did you see the Perfect Dark framed fliers upstairs?! That game was fantastic, huh?'

I summed up to someone in passing conversation, using prior console add on history, why Kinect wouldn't do very well. I was told it would probably be best not to say to senior management.

If they'd only listen!

Jack burton

Yeah I forgot you work for microsoft. I'm still waiting on janes douglas's number!

Way to open up old wounds man! My heart had just goten back on beat and all

scotty_irish

unreal tournament GOTY edition 1999 - three of us in the flat in a LAN game!

CiDeRmAn

scotty_irish wrote: »

unreal tournament GOTY edition 1999 - three of us in the flat in a LAN game!

Good for you, well done!
(Are you sure you're in the right place?)

We really should signpost this forum better....

o1s1n

Jack burton wrote: »

Yeah I forgot you work for microsoft. I'm still waiting on janes douglas's number!

Way to open up old wounds man! My heart had just goten back on beat and all

I mentioned it to her but she said she doesn't date guys with arcade cabs.

If you want me to take the Naomi off your hands I'm sure I can find space.

Jack burton

Ah ****. Well I have 3 women on my fancy list. She's number 3 so no big loss.

have to find someone here with connections to milla jovovich (2) and hayley williams (1)

Come on people, I dont ask for much do I!?

Ironman76

Maming at the moment.

Donkey Kong
Aliens
Pang

Andrew76

Ironman76 wrote: »

Maming at the moment.

Donkey Kong
Aliens
Pang

+1
One of my favourites.

OwaynOTT

Just playing Mario vs Donkey Kong on my new ( crappy inferior not the best) Gameboy Sp.
Also playing a bit of Super Circuit.
Id love if the brought out a Mario Kart on the Wii that had all the tracks so could play multi player.

Mr Vengeance

I downloaded Outrun Online Arcade (ie Outrun 2 SP from the arcades) and got stuck in last night. I played the **** out of it, and its full of win.

I don't know why I didn't get it before, I suppose I was hoping to get round to getting the Xbox 1 version, but thats hard to pick up now.... I had a spare 800 MS pts which I had in reserve for Trouble Witches Neo, which I wasn't too impressed with having tried the demo, but decided to get Outrun as I loved the original Outrun 2 in the arcade, and on the Xbox 1.

I played through every level and had amazing fun with it. It looks great, handles beautifully and the stages are just as good as Outrun 2's. There are some truly brillant courses such as the San Francisco stage, the one from Las Vegas and the China style level - these really stand out, though each is a lot of fun.

Sega really knows how to make a great arcade racer. Lets hope the rumours of a new Daytona are true....

Pyongyang

Nice one, add me on XBLA and I'll multiplayer race you on it. There's never anyone found in the lobby when I try multiplayer.

o1s1n

Has anyone tried that DSiWare Go series game 'Dark Spirits'?

Its a side scrolling shmup for €2...and more fun than a €2 game should be.

/edit - meant to ask you guys. I picked up Metroid Other M recently for really cheap (couldn't pass up cheap!), played it for about 10 minutes and realized I don't like it very much.

Am I just being stupid and is it worth sticking with? Or is it just crap?

CiDeRmAn

Metroid: Other M.
Two word review...
Sh1t Sandwich

A few more?
It could have gotten any further from the superb GC and GBA/DS iterations.
A lesson in how to feck up a valuable licence.

And the plot and voice acting is a new all time low in exposition and people actually phoning it in without doubt.
So much so, it makes Resi Evils acting seem like No Country For Old Men.

My recommendation is to find a sucker on Adverts and get shot of it.

The game is a great reason for getting a soft-modded Wii and a 500gb hdd, so you can try before you buy.
Otherwise, by releasing such a game, Nintendo give you permission to steal your cash back by dl'ing a game in return.

o1s1n

Cheers Cider, it won't be going near my Wii again so

For the little bit I did play, I found the actress voicing Samus to be awful alright. Sounded like a bored Gillian Anderson.

CiDeRmAn

More like a cardboard Gillian Anderson...

And I was so looking forward to that game too, wondered "After the brilliance of the Prime games and the games on my GBA, what wonders will Team Ninja have in store for me?".

Well, I didn't exactly think that to myself, gist of perhaps, but yeah looked forward to it.
Little did I know that popping that game on the Wii and playing it would lead to Nintendo actually taking a dump in my eye sockets!

I have to wonder how much damage that one title did to the series.

Retr0gamer

Team Ninja seem to have gone to **** since Itagaki left. The men as a borderline sex pest but he knew how to make a damn good game.

Ninja Gaiden 3 looks awful as well. No dismemberment at all, which made NG2 over the top funny and added to the gameplay. Instead we have ad guys begging for their lives which is just a bit sickening. It's also full of QTE's and terrible stealth sections (the one in TGS involves sneaking up on a bad guy then killing him which alerts all the enemies in the area anyway!).

o1s1n

No dismemberment?!

“For Ninja Gaiden 3, we wanted to focus on the act of cutting someone down, and what it’s like to actually kill someone with a sword. Once you start lopping off limbs, your enemy goes from being a living thing that you’re killing to just a thing.”

So to make the game more realistic, they made it less realistic? That makes no sense.

Andrew76

o1s1n wrote: »

No dismemberment?!

“For Ninja Gaiden 3, we wanted to focus on the act of cutting someone down, and what it’s like to actually kill someone with a sword. Once you start lopping off limbs, your enemy goes from being a living thing that you’re killing to just a thing.”

So to make the game more realistic, they made it less realistic? That makes no sense.

Is that quote actually from Team Ninja themselves? What a load a sh1te that is. The "fleshwound" below is more realistic so. :pac:

Retr0gamer

It was better off that they felt like dolls. The new game has the enemies crawling away saying stuff like 'please don't kill me!' or 'no more! please no more!' as you slaughter them. There's something a little off about it. Dismemberment was a bit silly in NG2 but it did add something to the gameplay where enemies changed their attack patterns depending on what was lobbed off.

I really want to play NG2 now and finish it this time!

o1s1n

Andrew76 wrote: »

Is that quote actually from Team Ninja themselves?

Yep! They also said somethin along the lines of 'people have already had dismemberment in Ninja Gaiden games and don't want it anymore'.

Erm...okay then. I know what people want, QTE evens! Yeah!

I just read an interesting comment where someone mentioned Ninja Gaiden 2's dismemberment had issues on the ps3? (limbs vanish once they're in the air?) and that maybe the team came across a RAM/Engine issue so just decided to leave it out rather than invest in fixing it. Lazy if that's true.

Retr0gamer wrote: »

It was better off that they felt like dolls. The new game has the enemies crawling away saying stuff like 'please don't kill me!' or 'no more! please no more!' as you slaughter them. There's something a little off about it. Dismemberment was a bit silly in NG2 but it did add something to the gameplay where enemies changed their attack patterns depending on what was lobbed off.

I really want to play NG2 now and finish it this time!

It does seem a bit odd that they'd remove dismemberment but keep that level of disturbing content in. I dunno, the more I think about it, the more the 'being left out for engine related issues rather than design ones' is starting to make sense. As the design reason make absolutely no sense.

I never finished Ninja Gaiden 2 myself either. Got stuck somewhere half way through. Kind of want to dismember people when I go home from work now

Retr0gamer

NG2 Sigma had big RAM issues on the PS3. You fought less enemies at the same time than the 360 version and the limbs and other decals disappeared. Also the crowd scenes had the number of models severely pared back and alpha textures were at half resolution (more a video ram issue). However lighting and shaders were much improved. It might be a reason for cutting it but I'm sure their engineers might have found a way around such a small technical problem? It's better than bloody QTEs!

o1s1n

If team Ninja are to be believed, then you are wrong. QTEs is what people want, not old, tired, disliked dismemberment.

I don't usually use the rolleyes emoticon, but I'm feeling like it may have a place here...

Another 'I'm speaking out of my arse and have no clue what a Ninja Gaiden game is actually about' quote -

For one thing, it's got a sort of easy mode called "Hero Mode," which adds automatic dodging and blocking of most normal attacks, to which I can imagine Itagaki's head shaking, making waves in a cloud of cigarette smoke.

I asked director Fumihiko Yasuda (who also did design work on Sigma 2) about why such a ... friendly mode would appear in such a typically unfriendly series.

"We really wanted to flesh out the story this time around," Yasuda said, "so we wanted people to enjoy that story and get used to the game as it is. In the past the games were really hardcore and we couldn't get players to stay with us and complete the game." Team Ninja is "redefining" Hayabusa's image, and wants people to experience that whole story without dying over and over again or throwing the game into the disposal in frustration.

So that's it folks. They want Ninja Gaiden to be easy, more accessible for people, have a fleshed out story line and most importantly, not dying over and over again.

I think Fumihiko Yasuda may have banged his head. Hard.

CiDeRmAn

Regarding Outrun 2, it's all sorts of brilliant.
I have it on the Xbox, PS2, PSP and, more recently, the 360.
On each and every format it shines although I have to express a preference for the PSP version, not in HD but it so looks like it is!
And tons to do, all the glory of the arcade game plus the 2006 extra track set, brilliant.

Not a racing game per se, it feels more like some sort of shoot'em up at times, managing traffic hell patterns instead of bullet ones, certain modes requiring you to navigate in peculiar ways, like breaking the connection between adjacent vehicles, great stuff.

johnny_ultimate

Ill half stand up for Other M. The story line is god awful, the way you unlock weapons makes no sense and the aiming system can be distressing. But there's a fully formed and inventive Metroid game in there, and one that's perhaps more interesting (if not as wholly successful) than the somewhat on autopilot Prime 3. Sure, it makes some significant blunders (mainly with Samus) but when you're exploring its pure Metroid with some twists.

Retr0gamer

o1s1n wrote: »

If team Ninja are to be believed, then you are wrong. QTEs is what people want, not old, tired, disliked dismemberment.

I don't usually use the rolleyes emoticon, but I'm feeling like it may have a place here...

Another 'I'm speaking out of my arse and have no clue what a Ninja Gaiden game is actually about' quote -

For one thing, it's got a sort of easy mode called "Hero Mode," which adds automatic dodging and blocking of most normal attacks, to which I can imagine Itagaki's head shaking, making waves in a cloud of cigarette smoke.

I asked director Fumihiko Yasuda (who also did design work on Sigma 2) about why such a ... friendly mode would appear in such a typically unfriendly series.

"We really wanted to flesh out the story this time around," Yasuda said, "so we wanted people to enjoy that story and get used to the game as it is. In the past the games were really hardcore and we couldn't get players to stay with us and complete the game." Team Ninja is "redefining" Hayabusa's image, and wants people to experience that whole story without dying over and over again or throwing the game into the disposal in frustration.

So that's it folks. They want Ninja Gaiden to be easy, more accessible for people, have a fleshed out story line and most importantly, not dying over and over again.

I think Fumihiko Yasuda may have banged his head. Hard.

Sounds unfortunately like the new Devil May Cry game. Lets give the a series with no storyline and all about the excellent battle system to a developer with cinematic aspirations and has thus far shown that they can't design a decent battle system.

Mr Vengeance

o1s1n wrote: »

/edit - meant to ask you guys. I picked up Metroid Other M recently for really cheap (couldn't pass up cheap!), played it for about 10 minutes and realized I don't like it very much.

Am I just being stupid and is it worth sticking with? Or is it just crap?

I'm going to disagree with Ciderman here and say its one of the best games on the Wii - my personal Game of the Year for 2010 on any format.

Yes, you read it correctly. Its superb.

I will say this though - it starts poorly in terms of its gameplay. Nice graphics, excellent setting, but the gameplay is very poor to start - the combat is poor, there's no apparent depth, and the puzzles are useless.

Persevere however, and before you know it the story gets going and the set-pieces begin to get really interesting. The combat soon gets really excellent and the visuals and surroundings begin to amaze. The bosses are superb and the atmosphere really begins to take hold. The upgrading is a bit strangely done and a bit odd but its a video game and they don't always make sense. Really, the game at the middle stages and at the end is like a completely different game to the one at the beginning.

Other M devides gamers. But please give it a chance as it really deserves it. Make up your own mind about it and please don't give up at the start. Its a classic in my view and I know a lot of other people agree too. Some people don't get it and they are entitled to their opinion, but play it as you've bought it now and let us know what you think....

CiDeRmAn

Well, each to their own I guess, I was simply super disappointed.
Not too much to critisise Metroid 3 about, aside from easing up on the difficulty relative to the very hard Metroid Prime 2: Corruption.

Retr0gamer

The baby....

blag

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Regarding Outrun 2, it's all sorts of brilliant............
.

Couldn't agree more, the game is a real classic and definitely my all time top arcade racer.

Using the manual gear drifting to cruise through the snow stage at full pelt is sublime.