MoeJay wrote: » Well XWB, feel free to visit me in the flight deck the next time you see me on the line and we can figure it all out then! I'll bring the Blue Book.
kiwster wrote: » Has anyone emailed or called the number provided on the last email for any sort of info on the programme? I sent them an email a few days ago and haven't received a reply yet.
MoeJay wrote: » Sorry XWB I call BS on this, which really calls into question the rest of your posts. There is no FO on the 330 nor Captain on the 320 on less than €60k gross.
XWB wrote: » Some FOs on the 330 and Captains on the 320 dont earn 60k a year so I would be highly suspicious if that. I would imagine that was more of a hook on the line and that they were stating that "some day" you will earn 60k..maybe..possibly in 10 years.
el tel wrote: » G Anyone who has any sort of desire to fly should have applied just to get a bit of experience a taste of what interviews and assessments are like.
kiwster wrote: » I really can't see how it could be any more than this. For a school/college graduate this is great but for someone changing career after a few years it could be at least a 50% pay cut. It would be that for me at least
thecornflake wrote: » People seem to think if they get the position that it'll be like Leonardo decaprio in Catch me If You Can :rolleyes:.
kona wrote: » Do you honestly think that pilots get paid e60K starting as a cadet! As long as people expect flights for less than the taxi fare to the airport your having a laugh. Its not near what people think it is as a job.
XWB wrote: » Look I was offered a 2 year return contract with a base salary of 70k a year to skipper the pond hoppers....if I was doing that job and then found out cadets were earning 60k then I would be demanding a pay rise. To suggest 60k a year is to suggest that the cadet will walk in day one on the 320 and be earning more than the man to his left in Gatwick??...that is just a farcical suggestion! Cadets will make 30k if they are lucky!
jimjop wrote: » It says starting salaries were likely to be 60,000? to the rest of posts: and was a pilots salary not known to be a very good one? and here the total opposite is being said..I respect XWBs opinion but I wonder is all the other views on this trying to maybe scare people who have been invited to stage 3 to decline their places due to wage fears so unsuccessful applicants will maybe get another chance. Ill have training and salary questions armed and ready for the next stage because until then i've the salt shaker out reading the majority of these posts
XWB wrote: » Some FOs on the 330 and Captains on the 320 dont earn 60k a year so I would be highly suspicious if that. I would imagine that was more of a hook on the line and that they were stating that "some day" you will earn 60k..maybe..possibly in 10 years. 900 hours a year? That is very high for a Ryanair pilot. I would assume he would have to be a Capt as an FO in Ryanair would rarely get that sort of "hourage". Infact I know the base wage for a Ryanair Capt is 45k. When you join Ryanair and have your safety pilot you earn 18k structure..when he pisses off you get the 28k structure. However as Brookfield employ you and you are a contractor you can claim to be self employed and claim tax relief on you phones bills, petrol, unifrom costs and infact you claim most of your TR costs back in the 1st 5 years!
handsomecake wrote: » What's the script ? I thought jockeys were minted? I wouldn't get out of bed for some of the figures being quoted
XWB wrote: » Railjon wrote: » The Independant article on the cadetship stated that E60k was the starting salary for cadets, but not sure if this includes sector pay, bonds etc. Some FOs on the 330 and Captains on the 320 dont earn 60k a year so I would be highly suspicious if that. I would imagine that was more of a hook on the line and that they were stating that "some day" you will earn 60k..maybe..possibly in 10 years. Just to clarify, 28k in Ryanair is after tax. My mate is in there and has only just started. He earns 50E an hour and flys 900 hours year which equates to 45k a year before tax. Feel free to prove me wrong but quite a few people have told me that. 900 hours a year? That is very high for a Ryanair pilot. I would assume he would have to be a Capt as an FO in Ryanair would rarely get that sort of "hourage". Infact I know the base wage for a Ryanair Capt is 45k. When you join Ryanair and have your safety pilot you earn 18k structure..when he pisses off you get the 28k structure. However as Brookfield employ you and you are a contractor you can claim to be self employed and claim tax relief on you phones bills, petrol, unifrom costs and infact you claim most of your TR costs back in the 1st 5 years!
Railjon wrote: » The Independant article on the cadetship stated that E60k was the starting salary for cadets, but not sure if this includes sector pay, bonds etc.
Just to clarify, 28k in Ryanair is after tax. My mate is in there and has only just started. He earns 50E an hour and flys 900 hours year which equates to 45k a year before tax. Feel free to prove me wrong but quite a few people have told me that.
GoGoGadget wrote: » "The cost of the course will be advised to the successful applicants. In some cases, trainees have to pay for the full course. In others, companies pay the full amount but have a bond in place so where the pilot leaves, they have to pay some of the training costs back." This is the part of the article in the Indo I don't get! Some lads will pay for the full amount of training themselves and others have it all paid for by the company but are bonded. Very curious to see how this will work out and how they decide who pays and who's bonded...
