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What's with this Ogle guy?

FlutterinBantam

:eek:

Jaysus ,can't believe this.

The ESB, who are screwing us to the fcuking wall, are paying this lad's wages.

The same guy who tried to shut down CIE and failed miserably.

Why are the ESB paying the wages of a Union official.?

Surely the fcuk the don't have to go that far to guarantee industrial peace.

Total disgrace.

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hondasam

Who is he ?

tricky D

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Why are the ESB paying the wages of a Union official.?

For consistency. Afterall, if they pay €75k before perks for just reading meters.....

And no I'm not joking on that figure for that job.

Sunnyisland

Who are we talking about ?

westendgirlie

Haven't the foggiest

FlutterinBantam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrpUUzRPPAo

This geezer.

hondasam

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrpUUzRPPAo

This geezer.

what has that link got to do with the ESB?

teol

He's a smug socialist arse.

FlutterinBantam

hondasam wrote: »

what has that link got to do with the ESB?

The ESB is paying this lad's wages as Sec of their group of Unions.

Over 100k I would estimate.Well over .

That's you and I Sam if you pay ESB bills.

Why should the ESB pay union officials wages?

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

hondasam wrote: »

what has that link got to do with the ESB?

that's brendan ogle and he's head of the ESB union. try to keep up.

my god, what a nutter in a position of power. he can shutdown the country if he wanted to.

Sergeant

tricky D wrote: »

For consistency. Afterall, if they pay €75k before perks for just reading meters.....

And no I'm not joking on that figure for that job.

The thing is, the ESB outsourced the reading of meters a number of years ago. So there is no one getting a wage of 75k to read a meter. But don't let fact get in the way of a good AH rant.

hondasam

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

The ESB is paying this lad's wages as Sec of their group of Unions.

Over 100k I would estimate.Well over .

That's you and I Sam if you pay ESB bills.

Why should the ESB pay union officials wages?

Did he say ESB workers were spoilt, now they are pissed of with him.

georgiecasey wrote: »

that's brendan ogle and he's head of the ESB union. try to keep up.

my god, what a nutter in a position of power. he can shutdown the country if he wanted to.

I will.

How can he shut down the country?

TheZohanS

hondasam wrote: »

How can he shut down the country?

No electricity no partytime.

Saila

I thought you were saying ogle like street speak for ugly

Monty Burnz

teol wrote: »

He's a smug socialist arse.

More like a communist arse. He was behind loads of strikes at CIE, now he's at the ESB. The ESB staff reckon they are untouchable because if anything happens they don't like, they can shut down the country.

Another great argument for privatisation and competition, plus an interconnector to the UK or European power grids.

Monty Burnz

Sergeant wrote: »

The thing is, the ESB outsourced the reading of meters a number of years ago. So there is no one getting a wage of 75k to read a meter. But don't let fact get in the way of a good AH rant.

The guys in the power stations - when you factor in overtime - are on well over 100k per year. It's nuts. The company is very well run for a semi-state, and the staff are good; the only issue is that they are overpaid. Some slightly overpaid, some very overpaid (the aforementioned guys in the powerplants).

hondasam

TheZohan wrote: »

No electricity no partytime.

Back to candle light, think of the romance

Gator

Who?

Chuck Stone

Was he the guy who organised a strike in CIE because they wanted the sandwiches cut in squares instead of triangles in the canteen?

It's a disgrace Joe.

Sergeant

Monty Burnz wrote: »

The guys in the power stations - when you factor in overtime - are on well over 100k per year. It's nuts. The company is very well run for a semi-state, and the staff are good; the only issue is that they are overpaid. Some slightly overpaid, some very overpaid (the aforementioned guys in the powerplants).

I'm an electrical engineer. I worked there on a work experience release from college. I also have a number of friends who work there, being fellow electrical engineers.

The company is top heavy in terms of management. There are guys who are getting paid too much because of their length of service, and who have no modern skills to offer. Inefficiencies exist. As they do in many companies, public and private.

Overall, the company is well ran. Their International Consultancy is seen as world class, their safety record is impeccable, and despite what you read here, they are investing heavily in renewable energy and next generation metering. And they have no control over the rising cost of fossil fuels.

Bit of context sometimes.

Sunnyisland

Sergeant wrote: »

The thing is, the ESB outsourced the reading of meters a number of years ago. So there is no one getting a wage of 75k to read a meter. But don't let fact get in the way of a good AH rant.

They dident actually outsource them,The esb split into 3 different diversions(bit like cie) and the group responsible for the meter readings are called Esb networks, no idea how much they get now ?

Sergeant

realies wrote: »

They dident actually outsource them,The esb split into 3 different diversions(bit like cie) and the group responsible for the meter readings are called Esb networks, no idea how much they get now ?

The ESB was split into many parts, but the job of providing the meter readings to ESB Networks was outsourced, except for a few old staffers who had done the job since the year dot.

Dionysus

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

:eek:

Jaysus ,can't believe this.

The ESB, who are screwing us to the fcuking wall, are paying this lad's wages.

The same guy who tried to shut down CIE and failed miserably.

Why are the ESB paying the wages of a Union official.?

Surely the fcuk the don't have to go that far to guarantee industrial peace.

Total disgrace.

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

The ESB is paying this lad's wages as Sec of their group of Unions.

Over 100k I would estimate.Well over .

That's you and I Sam if you pay ESB bills.

Why should the ESB pay union officials wages?

Er, is this Ogle guy any relation to the Brendan Ogle guy who came out this week to say ESB employees are paid too much? What precisely is your problem with his position here?

Monty Burnz

Dionysus wrote: »

Er, is this Ogle guy any relation to the Brendan Ogle guy who came out this week to say ESB employees, including himself, are paid too much? What precisely is your problem with his position here?

The problem is that he knows they are paid too much, and yet will shut down the country if any attempt is made to tackle this. Indeed, he's likely to threaten to shut down the country if we even attempt to stop pay rises there.

Sunnyisland

Sergeant wrote: »

The ESB was split into many parts, but the job of providing the meter readings to ESB Networks was outsourced, except for a few old staffers who had done the job since the year dot.[/QUOTE]

Whats there wages like ? have been told at least 50,000 a year

Fulton Crown

Don't meant to be rude...but there is a lot of shite talk on this thread.

ESB staff are grossly overpaid...to the extent that their own Union man has called them priveledged.

Their CEO is paid a huge wedge ...even by Semi State standards and it recently emerged that he and others were getting free/subsidised lecky which we the customers are paying for.

They also have a highly subsidised medical scheme which is unique amongst Semi-states.

Were they also not the crowd who paid power plant workers in offaly for a number of years after the plant had ceased production ?

Sure there are good people in the Org...and sure ESB International have to be competitive...but the fact remains.

There is a significant cabal of highly paid individuals who are cosseted from the real world by virtue of their perceived ability to shut off the power...aided and abetted ..I might add..by decades of craven Government who were afraid to stand up to these bullies.

Dionysus

Monty Burnz wrote: »

The problem is that he knows they are paid too much, and yet will shut down the country if any attempt is made to tackle this. Indeed, he's likely to threaten to shut down the country if we even attempt to stop pay rises there.

Fair enough, but do you have any evidence for the highlighted part?

Monty Burnz

Dionysus wrote: »

Fair enough, but do you have any evidence for the highlighted part?

Yes. See the history of the PACT agreement that was signed in the early 2000s for the attitudes of the more militant parts of the ESB group of unions, and see the wildcat strikes that Ogle presided over during his time at Irish Rail.

Fulton Crown

Dionysus wrote: »

Fair enough, but do you have any evidence for the highlighted part?

"Evidence"

Have you seen this guys track record ?

How do you think they got to this position except by threatning to use their industrial muscle ?

Think "Leopard" and "Spots" .......might help you get a grip Buddy :cool:

Dionysus

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Yes. See the history of the PACT agreement that was signed in the early 2000s for the attitudes of the more militant parts of the ESB group of unions, and see the wildcat strikes that Ogle presided over during his time at Irish Rail.

Fulton Crown wrote: »

"Evidence"

Have you seen this guys track record ?

How do you think they got to this position except by threatning to use their industrial muscle ?

Think "Leopard" and "Spots" .......might help you get a grip Buddy :cool:

Lads, this is not evidence. Not even in a room full of supergrasses and diplock court judges in Belfast in 1980 would this constitute evidence. What evidence do you have from Ogle that he will - and I quote - "shut down the country if any attempt is made to tackle this. Indeed, he's likely to threaten to shut down the country if we even attempt to stop pay rises there."?

Simple question - surely, I can have a simple, factually-based answer?

Wertz

hondasam wrote: »

Back to candle light, think of the romance

There's nothing romantic about eating cold tinned food in the dark.
Anyone recall the rolling blackouts the last time the ESB decided to go on strike ('91)?
That said paying this f*cktard to waylay such action is inexcusable...why the hell would you employ a union official? Surely that's the responsibility of the union itself...