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How do you get rid of Chuggers?

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Seen this today, http://www.meaganapprovesof.blogspot.com/ courtesy of Broadsheet.ie.

What's your favourite way of getting rid of them?

If it's a guy I usually say, sorry buddy but I've got to take the biggest shít since the Bono episode of South Park, or if it's a girl I ask her how much of her 12.70 per hour does she give to the charity and while she tries to think of a charming response I'm half way down Grafton St.

So fellow AH'ers what line do you use to get rid of these menaces?

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lazygal

I generally say "I don't speak English". In English.

Logical Fallacy

The only time i was ever mean to a chugger was this one dude who got lippy because i wouldn't stop and listen.

bnt

Most of them see my face and decide it's not worth the aggravation of talking to me, but there are a few who seem blind to such body language.
Since they usually work in groups, I say "I already spoke to your friend over there", and that works. I'm waiting for one to ask me "what did you say to my friend over there?", just so I can tell them exactly what I said, that one time several years ago: one word, two letters, starts with "n".

I hope it's clear that my attitude towards chuggers says nothing about my attitude towards charity in general. There's a place and a time for it, and it isn't on the street when I'm trying to get somewhere. I hate "hard sell" tactics and refuse to be rushed or badgered in to making such an important decision - and if you try that it just makes me angry.

MetalDog

Shake their hand, tell them Jesus loves them, and walk on.

A Dub in Glasgo

I normally tell them quid pro quo... sign up for my charity and I will sign up for yours. 99.9% of them will run a mile

opinion guy

Lol.....

Next time I might say 'Well sure I'll talk with you. Have you heard the Good News yet brother ????"

Gordon

I had someone come up to me one time saying "can you help the Dog's Trust?". And I told them that dogs are very trusting so don't need my help. But in fairness that was someone in a supermarket, not a street chugger.

I find that having headphones is a great deterrent, otherwise, just smile and say no thanks, no big deal. But if they still try to block my path, I will waste their time, or ask them for their personal details as if I was going to report them. I don't mind people trying to grab your attention, but if you tell someone 'no' and they keep on coming at you, that's guilt rape in my opinion, and I hate guilt rape.

I find asking for details is a great way to take control of a conversation with cold callers too, if you are in control and ask them questions like; who their company is, what their website is, what they do exactly, what their surname is, etc etc, the callers will have to give you this info to proceed, they will rarely stop you from asking, although they will be as cagey as possible to bypass the questions, but just keep asking, be in control.

paddyandy

Sometimes when chuggers romas or beggars don't stop me i think.Maybe they can sense poverty just by looking at me.It's in the walk maybe?

AnonoBoy

LisaLee wrote: »

I'd say it was put up to clarify that these chuggers are probably being shown exactly how to persuade people to hand over their cash and bank details. Not out of concern for the charity, but to make some quick cash for themselves.

How can you clarify somebody being probably shown something exactly?

The photo doesn't clarify anything of the sort. All it shows is that they're organised.

"Here John - you do the top of Grafton Street. Kevin - you do the bottom. Derek - you take Nassau Street." etc. etc.

It's a non-photo.

Yeah, they're annoying pr*cks. But this photo doesn't show sh*t.

It's a pointless photo on a pointless blog, blah blah blah.

blue5000

Was asked by a chugger outside a bank would I like to help rehab?

my reply:

Piss off, I just bought an Amy Winehouse cd

Barrt2

blue5000 wrote: »

Was asked by a chugger outside a bank would I like to help rehab?

my reply:

Piss off, I just bought an Amy Winehouse cd

fcuking love it

Biggins

Raelynn Attractive Developer wrote: »

"Fuck off"..

Seriously, why would you say that to someone - and not expect to receive a punch in the snot for your efforts?.

I see it a few times of a weekend, I work on the door of a bar on a busy quay.

There are a lot of beggars and 'tappers' and I couldn't count the amount of times I've seen someone get punched because they told someone to "fuck off".

Then they come crying to me, like I'll give a toss that your ignorance has caused you to get punched!.

My response is usually along the lines of "Yea (quizzical look), what do you expect when your an ignorant bollox (amused, smug look on my face)?".

Sometimes it needs to be said - and if the schites are there in public, in a main through-fair and strike out - by god you can bet their asses will be sued, if not arrested.
I've had arrogant chugger fcuks block my way before in Dublin and I'm too old and too tired to put up with their schite.
Sometimes they need to be told to "fcuk off" - VERY loudly and if they want to be sued and spend a few weeks in jail for assault, fine.

locked_out

Blast em with piss?

mickrock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0hqpMc9HKw

later12

A simple f*ck off, but only to the really pathetic ones with sickly smiles who act like they're your best friend picking you up from the arrivals hall, delighted with themselves.

The more casual 'can you help?' variety get a more casual, respectful response.

Except to the Hanly Centre Girls. Sorry you little turd but I'm 24 and I have a real job, I understand you're goodlooking for your age and you stuff your bra with tissue paper, and you probably need the money for all that Dutch Gold, but no, I don't find 15 year olds attractive.
I wish they in particular would piss off back to the Central Bank or Dundrum shopping centre or wherever it is they vegetate their tiny scratchcard selling brains.

Whispered

LisaLee wrote: »

I'd say it was put up to clarify that these chuggers are probably being shown exactly how to persuade people to hand over their cash and bank details. Not out of concern for the charity, but to make some quick cash for themselves.

You mean..... they're trained to do their job :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Some quick cash? Being on your feet for 8 to 10 hours a day, no matter the weather, taking abuse and being threatened regularly is hardly some quick cash.

Of course they're trained to do their job, otherwise they wouldn't be very good at it would they? Not that that picture has anything to do with training, it's more likely organising themselves for the day ahead.

http://www.concern.net/about/how-money-spent

They're annoying but they get their job done. It's a job a lot of us would see ourselves as being "above" so fair play to them I say.

Krieg

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LisaLee

Whispered wrote: »

You mean..... they're trained to do their job :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Some quick cash? Being on your feet for 8 to 10 hours a day, no matter the weather, taking abuse and being threatened regularly is hardly some quick cash.

Of course they're trained to do their job, otherwise they wouldn't be very good at it would they? Not that that picture has anything to do with training, it's more likely organising themselves for the day ahead.

http://www.concern.net/about/how-money-spent

They're annoying but they get their job done. It's a job a lot of us would see ourselves as being "above" so fair play to them I say.

I have friends that worked as chuggers to earn some quick cash, that was a hook from one of the charities they told me about. The 'team leaders' are there to teach them tricks on how to start conversations with people and to try and get as much money out of people.

I'm not basing my opinion just on the photo, but on my friend's experiences. It's a hard job, but its not a secret that people generally dislike chuggers and will try avoid them.

Aishae

I know they're just doing their job. But I'm deaf so I know hostile or pissed off body language when I see it. And 70% of the time (I'd hazard) you get one of the other when you say no thanks. You get the pissed off / put out look more though.

So if I see one in the distance I give them a wide swerve - so walking down grafton street is like a strange game of snakes and ladders. But I've found it's easier to do that than shake them off in a polite way.

If I do run into one - and it happens as they pop up like that whack a mole game - I just raise a hand, nod and say no thanks.
Chuggers do annoy me if they try walking with me, block my path or that. I'm tempted to say get lost but I just walk off an pay no attention to the feckers.

Whispered

It depends on who they work for - the more established ones, like concern don't work for commission, they are on a flat rate.

With concern, the team leaders are there to supervise them, organise the team, deal with problems, do the paperwork at the end of the day and take the flack if anything goes wrong. The team leaders are more experienced, but not there to teach them "tricks" (I'm only speaking about concern here btw as it's the only one I know about). I mentioned earlier, once a concern worker makes contact they are not allowed to move. They are not allowed walk in front of you, walk with you, touch you, and I know someone who was fired after coming from another crowd and employing the same tactics he always used.

So I guess I'm not sticking up for chuggers in general, just pointing out that they are not all so bad.

Zaph

Whispered wrote: »

It depends on who they work for - the more established ones, like concern don't work for commission, they are on a flat rate.

With concern, the team leaders are there to supervise them, organise the team, deal with problems, do the paperwork at the end of the day and take the flack if anything goes wrong. The team leaders are more experienced, but not there to teach them "tricks" (I'm only speaking about concern here btw as it's the only one I know about). I mentioned earlier, once a concern worker makes contact they are not allowed to move. They are not allowed walk in front of you, walk with you, touch you, and I know someone who was fired after coming from another crowd and employing the same tactics he always used.

So I guess I'm not sticking up for chuggers in general, just pointing out that they are not all so bad.

It depends on your definition of bad, I suppose. So what if the Concern crowd aren't allowed walk near you or touch you, I don't actually want them speaking to me in the first place.

Gordon

Whispered wrote: »

You mean..... they're trained to do their job :eek::eek::eek::eek:

Some quick cash? Being on your feet for 8 to 10 hours a day, no matter the weather, taking abuse and being threatened regularly is hardly some quick cash.

Of course they're trained to do their job, otherwise they wouldn't be very good at it would they? Not that that picture has anything to do with training, it's more likely organising themselves for the day ahead.

http://www.concern.net/about/how-money-spent

They're annoying but they get their job done. It's a job a lot of us would see ourselves as being "above" so fair play to them I say.

Annoying, yeah, and brings the charity's name down a number of notches in my opinion. The conduct of fundraisers (page 18) states that fundraisers and their organisations commit to "Respect the dignity of their profession and ensure that their actions enhance the reputation of themselves and the charity they represent.". It's a shame that many don't commit to that.

Bag of Poo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YZlJxQ8uIE

ChopShop

If it's Barnardos, "Sorry, i hate Children." usually works.

[Deleted User]

I shake my head and keep walking, it's not that difficult and they don't start running after you or something

Aishae

bluewolf wrote: »

I shake my head and keep walking, it's not that difficult and they don't start running after you or something

I've had them try to keep up - walking along side me. But that's hopefully rarer occurrence these days then when the chugger phenomenon first started. Some of them are a law unto themselves. But just because a few of them act like that is no reason to be rude to them all

Whispered

Zaph wrote: »

It depends on your definition of bad, I suppose. So what if the Concern crowd aren't allowed walk near you or touch you, I don't actually want them speaking to me in the first place.

Then just ignore them. I don't want to speak to them either as I already donate, but that's life I suppose. They do a horribly draining job. They do it because they need the money. I can't see people putting themselves through it day in day out unless they needed to do it.

Gordon wrote: »

Annoying, yeah, and brings the charity's name down a number of notches in my opinion. The conduct of fundraisers (page 18) states that fundraisers and their organisations commit to "Respect the dignity of their profession and ensure that their actions enhance the reputation of themselves and the charity they represent.". It's a shame that many don't commit to that.

But they do, like I said I personally know someone who got fired for being too pushy. I also know a team leader who has had to recommend letting people go for their conduct. They are not even supposed to swear when in their vests. If a concern worker makes you feel intimidated, steps in front of you, touches you, follows you or is rude to you, ask to speak to their team leader. They are always around.

Mike 1972

OneArt wrote: »

In Germany it's great because I just go in my strongest Irish accent, in English, "Sorry I don't speak German!" (I do though...) and they immediately leave me alone.

In Germany Id say theres at least a 50% chance that theyll have at least some basic English. Better just say "Nien Deutch" without stating what language you actually speak.

Was in Krakov/Crakow (however the fup it supposed to be spelt) a couple of years back. Nice place but plagued with beggars (to be fair judging by the number of people sleeping in the railway station toilets there is still a lot of poverty in the place -but no doubt the usual army of chancers as well) theyd even come up to you inside shopping centres and everything.

For a while my tactic for getting rid of them was to respond with an apologetic "Sorry Nie Polsku, Angleski" but it wasnt that effective. Some of the younger ones did have some English (Older ones would mostly have Russian as a second language) plus they all seemed to have the impression that tourists were all loaded (In Polish begger terms perhaps we are ???)

About a couple of hours before my train out of there was due I came up this brilliant idea whose only downside amounted to slightly overturning my lifelong conviction regarding the complete pointlessness of being forced to study Irish in school. I was going to reply In Irish to the next person who asked me for money and pretend I didnt speak any other languages. The fact that I barely have enough vocabulary to string together meaningless phrases like "Paul and Niamh are going to the Beach" I figured would have been entirely besides the point !

Weirdly I wasnt approached by a single one of the buggers between coming up with this brainwave and the departure time for my train.

UseToBeFamous

I can tell yousomething about this unnamed charity!

The chuggers maybe annoying but they are just human being trying to make a buck

The real pr*cks are the guys above the chuggers especially the 'chugger general' who the blog names total narcissist ar*ehole and by the way it isnt the guy in the middle though he is what you call a team leader, and their job is not to 'lead', its to be slimey b*stards and report anything the chuggers do so if the team doesnt get any sign ups they just blame somebody.

Also these charities say blah blah blah and fire chuggers for being disrespectful but if you have a d*ckhead chugger who's a good seller well that person wont be fired and can basically do anything. id say the story whisper told was more like a crap seller who they wanted to get rid of anyway.

I dont support charity after I found out how they treat their chuggers. the chuggers are on basically a month contract and dont hit targets then they're gone, also the admin staff would walk by the chuggers and would be embarresed by them but yet the chuggers are the ones who are affording these admin gimps their 35k salaries a year.

And the picture. they are going over techniques on how to sign people up, they're doing senarios "i just lost my job i cant afford it" . D*ckhead team leader tell them "the kids really need it, cant you see somalia, also sign up now you're money wont be taking out till next month but you're helping today".

And people might think these chuggers can be rude but remember they are likely to be on a thing called 'probation' basically hit your targets in a week or your fired, so image yourself as a chugger, they have bills and loans and they're about to loose their job and if you were about to be fired well you'd be a bit desparate and stressed.

As how to get by them, just tell them no and keep walking.

Green Back

Raelynn Attractive Developer wrote: »

Smile, "no thank you" and maybe a nod of the head.

I wouldn't be cold or hard towards anyone.

Apart from people that get punched in the face??