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Hurricane Irene - A "historic" storm.

LighterGuy

So says obama.

BBC News:

Mandatory evacuations have been ordered in parts of four states, and in low-lying areas of New York City.
Seven states from North Carolina to Connecticut have declared emergencies ahead of Irene's arrival.
The category two storm has weakened a little and is expected to make landfall with winds of up to 100mph (155km/h).
Irene, which has already caused havoc in the Caribbean, is expected to hit the coast of North Carolina on Saturday before barrelling northwards towards Washington and New York City a day later.......

The New York Subway is also due to be shut down. So an Earthquake and now this is the same week? ... nature is hitting hard.

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amacachi

LighterGuy wrote: »

You got to love boards.ie dont you?
I never knew it had so many experts ... about absolutely everything!

Sure it doesnt matter if the US govenment has issued warnings to certain states. Doesnt matter if the President has gone on record by saying "it will be an historic storm" ... doesnt matter what US meteorologists think.

Cause we got boards.ie! ... if they say it'll blow over. Im sure it'll blow over. Why alot of people know everything about everything on here :rolleyes: Just like the earthquake/Tsuami's in japan thread months ago. I never knew we have so many nuclear technicians using this site ...

Have you been keeping up to date? Those same sources you've mentioned have been saying today that it won't be as bad as it was looking. 2/3 of the models show it not hitting NYC head on. Practice what you preach etc.

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Has she hit yet?

No.

looky loo

LighterGuy wrote: »

You got to love boards.ie dont you?
I never knew it had so many experts ... about absolutely everything!

Sure it doesnt matter if the US govenment has issued warnings to certain states. Doesnt matter if the President has gone on record by saying "it will be an historic storm" ... doesnt matter what US meteorologists think.

Cause we got boards.ie! ... if they say it'll blow over. Im sure it'll blow over. Why alot of people know everything about everything on here :rolleyes: Just like the earthquake/Tsuami's in japan thread months ago. I never knew we have so many nuclear technicians using this site ...

Have a cup a tae....it'll blow over in no time..

LighterGuy

amacachi wrote: »

Have you been keeping up to date? Those same sources you've mentioned have been saying today that it won't be as bad as it was looking. 2/3 of the models show it not hitting NYC head on. Practice what you preachetc.

BBC news link: (Last updated at 23:37 GMT)

the above is the same link I posted in the first post.

Overheal

Plug 29483 into the Wundermap.

So far all I've seen is sporadic rain and not all that much wind.

It is interesting to watch the cloudcover pass overhead though.

Don't personally see what's so historic about this. It'll be Category 1 in a few hours and Tropical Storm state again when it gets to NYC

amacachi

LighterGuy wrote: »

BBC news link: (Last updated at 23:37 GMT)

the above is the same link I posted in the first post.

It even says there that it has weakened a bit. Have a look around meteorological sites and you'll see the models are (generally) showing less bad scenarios with each run. It's still going to run into some shear forces as it moves northwards, something it'll be hard to factor into the models as I don't think something similar has happened in this area in an era with as much data as we have today.

Don't get me wrong, it was obvious a couple of days ago that damage would be heavy etc., but I'm not loving the possibility of a runaway media reaction leading to people then thinking that those pesky meteorologists were crying wolf should it get sheared to bits, stall and weaken on cooler water or take an unexpected turn inland.

amacachi

Overheal wrote: »

Plug 29483 into the Wundermap.

So far all I've seen is sporadic rain and not all that much wind.

It is interesting to watch the cloudcover pass overhead though.

Don't personally see what's so historic about this.

The foot or two of rain expected on already saturated ground in heavily populated Northeastern regions or the 10+ foot storm surge?

Fingers crossed it'll gobble itself up though.

Spread

It has been announced on the Weather Channel that it has been raised to Cat 2 ..........

Overheal

New yorkers can put up with a little flooding.

Spread wrote: »

It has been announced on the Weather Channel that it has been raised to Cat 2 ..........

It already was a C2, unless it dipped.

joshrogan

LighterGuy wrote: »

You got to love boards.ie dont you?
I never knew it had so many experts ... about absolutely everything!

Sure it doesnt matter if the US govenment has issued warnings to certain states. Doesnt matter if the President has gone on record by saying "it will be an historic storm" ... doesnt matter what US meteorologists think.

Cause we got boards.ie! ... if they say it'll blow over. Im sure it'll blow over. Why alot of people know everything about everything on here :rolleyes: Just like the earthquake/Tsuami's in japan thread months ago. I never knew we have so many nuclear technicians using this site ...

Actually 40% of all AH posters are nuclear technicians/meteorologists/geologists according to the demograpic.

Spread

Overheal wrote: »

New yorkers can put up with a little flooding.
It already was a C2, unless it dipped.

I was commenting on # 36. Just in and have not been watching but had WC on.
How are ye doing down there?

Overheal

Spread wrote: »

I was commenting on # 36. Just in and have not been watching but had WC on.
How are ye doing down there?

Ah it's tame. Not any wind really, no rain. I've seen worse rain under even normal circumstances. These were light showers. the worst thing thats happened is some power loss in a few areas but it was temporary. In the last while I've seen the lights flicker, but hardly anything to panic about. Porch weather, really.

charlemont

looky loo wrote: »

If you see four horsemen......................................

RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Especially if they are shouting "Yup Boss, I wanna word with you".

Spread

Good to hear. Better or worse than was forecasted for there?

artanevilla

And people give out about the weather here.

LighterGuy

artanevilla wrote: »

And people give out about the weather here.

I was talking to my dad earlier about this

he said "glad we dont get extreme weather here!" - he's right.
But makes you think. Could Ireland one day get earthquakes and hurricanes?

Overheal

LighterGuy wrote: »

I was talking to my dad earlier about this
he said "glad we dont get extreme weather here!" - he's right.
But makes you think. Could Ireland one day get earthquakes and hurricanes?

Ireland breaks down from a bit of snow.

You'd better hope not.

amacachi

In fairness the widespread panic in the media about snow here and the UK doesn't really reflect how it is for most people. Charlie Brooker did an awesome bit comparing news reports with their puns usually involving "armaggedon" and dramatic shots with the actual interviews they showed. The general consensus was "It's a bit of craic isn't it?" In terms of transport the trains kept running last year though the first day was a bit of a disaster. I commute over 50 miles each way so it was a pain for me to have to leave an hour earlier but that's my problem.

Also Irish and UK houses would probably stand up better than thin wooden ones that seem to be the usual choice in Hurricane-prone areas. :pac: Hopefully it's not something that'll be put to the test soon though.

"Treacherous" :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68mkgir5fbw

The Aussie

Hurricane Irene - A "historic" storm.

No, just that its America. far worse storms make land fall in Asia and the Sub Continent each year with thousands dead and all it makes in the news is a 30sec story, might pay attention when the body count reaches 1000+...

Liam Byrne

Penfailed wrote: »

I'd say, "An historic storm".

Apt username so!

The base word is "History", which doesn't Have a silent H.

Lirange

The Aussie wrote: »

No, just that its America. far worse storms make land fall in Asia and the Sub Continent each year with thousands dead and all it makes in the news is a 30sec story, might pay attention when the body count reaches 1000+...

Some of those death tolls are exacerbated by poor living conditions in densely populated areas (e.g. Bangladesh). This is news because hurricanes and tropical storm systems seldomly saunter into the New York City area (maybe once a decade) ... and well because it's New York. People will follow it because they have friends or relatives there. Or because they've visited a few times or might even be planning a holiday/business trip. Or just because they have an interest in climate and weather. It's not a crime so you might stash away the "westerners lives are more important than blah blah ..." for perhaps a more relevant foreign policy discussion.

The Aussie

Lirange wrote: »

Some of those death tolls are exacerbated by poor living conditions in densely populated areas (e.g. Bangladesh). This is news because hurricanes and tropical storm systems seldomly saunter into the New York City area (maybe once a decade) ... and well because it's New York. .

It made sense when you replied with this and agreed with it.

Lirange wrote: »

People will follow it because they have friends or relatives there. Or because they've visited a few times or might even be planning a holiday/business trip. Or just because they have an interest in climate and weather.

And even this in your edit a few minutes later.

Lirange wrote: »

It's not a crime so you might stash away the "westerners lives are more important than blah blah ..." for perhaps a more relevant foreign policy discussion.

But this glib reply just reads as blah blah blah to me, come back to me when its more thought out will you, will check back in after the rugby to see how your coming along with it, cheers.

KittyeeTrix

Overheal wrote: »

Ah it's tame. Not any wind really, no rain. I've seen worse rain under even normal circumstances. These were light showers. the worst thing thats happened is some power loss in a few areas but it was temporary. In the last while I've seen the lights flicker, but hardly anything to panic about. Porch weather, really.

How's it over there now Overheal???

libra02

Was just talking to my friend who lives in NYC & she is saying that Mayor Bloomberg is really being pro-active and leaving nothing to chance. Think after major snow over there last year when the residents think he did not respond fast enough he is leaving nothing to chance.

370,000 people have to mandtory evacuate , all transport is shutting down for next few days from 1pm EST and there are 91 shelters being opened for city residents, tourits etc who need to evacuate. All 5 airports are also shutting down at 1pm.

Her apartment is downtown so near the waterfront and if the city does flood she is right in its path so she is leaving nothing to chance. The major worry is flying glass and floods. Problem is some New Yorkers won't heed warnings and are being told is they choose to stay you won't be forced to leave but if winds get too high emergency servies won't be able to get out to them so your on your own. Isue is also is that the storm itself is so large it is going to take a good while for it to move across the city and whole area.

She is doing right thing, if it is not as bad as expected well so what you spent the night at a shelter, better safe than sorry. At her shelter she has a bed, nice warm blanket and info leaflet from city of NYC & there are lots of food, water etc. City is very quiet for NYC also even at 8.30am

RichieC

Penfailed wrote: »

I'd say, "An historic storm".

wrong.

Overheal

fluffyorganic1 wrote: »

How's it over there now Overheal???

completely normal. didnt get close enough to do anything harmful.

edit: well I should point out that on the left-side of a hurricane you experience really the weakest part of the storm. The northern quadrant is easily the most devastating. Thats why Katrina was especially awful and why New England should still be somewhat concerned.

Cantona's Collars

Lucky they closed the airports,they would have had a huge influx of hoodie wearing tourists from England to do some 'shopping' in the deserted streets.

rossie1977

LighterGuy wrote: »

You got to love boards.ie dont you?
I never knew it had so many experts ... about absolutely everything!

Sure it doesnt matter if the US govenment has issued warnings to certain states. Doesnt matter if the President has gone on record by saying "it will be an historic storm" ... doesnt matter what US meteorologists think.

you don't have to be an expert to see that this storm would have blown itself out by the time it reaches new york, it came ashore as barely a category 1 so less than i expected, there will hardly be enough wind to fly a kite by the time it reaches new york

if we were to believe the media/us government/us president/our own government last decade iraq was minutes away from being able to launch weapons of mass destruction, sars, swine flu etc would kill millions, there was no chance of recession in ireland..........

rossie1977

LighterGuy wrote: »

I was talking to my dad earlier about this
he said "glad we dont get extreme weather here!" - he's right.
But makes you think. Could Ireland one day get earthquakes and hurricanes?

ireland has gotten hurricanes in the past, the last really big storm to hit ireland was on day after christmas 1998, now that caused serious damage in the west of ireland, blew most of the roof off my parents house, massive shed across the road had its entire roof torn off, no electricity or water for 3-4 days after http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_Day_Storm

dr.bollocko

Hurricane Irene has made landfall near Cape Lookout, North Carolina, as a weaker but still massive Category One storm, US government forecasters said.

As its eye came ashore, Irene packed sustained winds of 140km the Miami-based National Hurricane Centre said.

After North Carolina, the hurricane was forecast to churn up the eastern seaboard towards Washington, New York and Boston.

The densely populated corridor, home to more than 65 million people, was under threat of flooding, storm surges, power outages and destruction that experts said could cost up to $12 billion.

Ports, industries, oil refineries and nuclear plants are scrambling to activate emergency plans while transport systems are preparing to close down.

For the first-time ever the mayor of New York has ordered a mandatory evacuation of low-lying areas of the city that will affect over 250,000 people.

The three major New York airports will close to arrivals beginning at 5pm Irish time, but they will try to remain open for departures.

Aer Lingus has cancelled all flights scheduled to operate to and from New York today and tomorrow

In a statement, they said customers with bookings on the cancelled flights are being informed of the cancellations vis SMS message and email. Customers may change to a later day of travel on aerlingus.com.

'We have never done a mandatory evacuation before, and we wouldn't be doing this now if we didn't think the storm had the potential to be very serious,' New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said.

Authorities had earlier announced that New York's massive transit system would begin to shut down by midday in another rare move that could hinder transport into Monday's rush hour.

New York state meanwhile said major links into the city would be cut if winds exceeded 60 miles per hour, as predicted, and authorities called up 900 National Guard troops and 2,500 power workers to prepare for emergency repair work, the largest ever deployment.

Neighbouring New Jersey has ordered 750,000 people out of the Cape May area.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0827/irene.html

Overheal

rossie1977 wrote: »

ireland has gotten hurricanes in the past, the last really big storm to hit ireland was on day after christmas 1998, now that caused serious damage in the west of ireland, blew most of the roof off my parents house, massive shed across the road had its entire roof torn off, no electricity or water for 3-4 days after http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_Day_Storm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Atlantic_hurricane_season

not there at all