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godspal

I am just curious about what type of play people on this forum like/aspire to play like.

My favourite player is definitely LiquidRet. Its three things I just love about his play, his two O/L scouting is just amazing, it allows him to respond precisely to all situations.
His larva management is perfect. I have yet to see a player who can keep energy down on his queens like Ret does.
And finally his calm composure, I have seen allow players to sack bases just so he can get the best possible position.
I suppose the game I think typifies his style of play game No. 2 at MLG Anaheim against Rain.

As for a player I really don't like watching. It has to be GoOdy. He plays Terran in the most boring, un-dynamic way. He does significant early game economic damage to all his opponents and then turtles up, and moves out with these "power-overwhelming" mech forces.

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UnholyGregor

Columc wrote: »

Balance dosent affect players until they are in high masters(rank 1-16), it truely dosent.

you mean like me?
edit: was 11th yesterday, got cheesed back to where i currently am T.T

Columc

so my favourite programmer is EGHuK what a guy.

Joshua Jones

Funky wrote: »

Point in case, Idra vs mana on crevasse in the IPL, Idra's got a good economic advantage, mana is building for a big 3 base stalker colossus attack, idra attacks(when he 100% definitely shouldn't and didn't need to) into a TERRIBLE position with roach corruptor and loses the game. Says 'fúck off' and leaves the game.

I was a big Idra fan until I watched that game. I couldn't believe it. 2-0 up and cruising. Went for a spine rush in third match and rage quit before they even got rooted. He coulda still done damage, and swithed strat. Getting beaten in the forth, bad positioning again, says "this is a f***ing joke" and rage quits. Then last game as you described. Zero sportsmanship and loses the cool too quckly. I think I prefer Nerchio now, or Ret. (Yep, zerg lover lol)

Edit: Actually I think in the game you described he said "**** you", if I remember correct.

UnholyGregor

first off, the ipl games are old as ****, as seen in the na battlenet invitational, idras doing pretty well in terms of cotroling his tilting, and staying in the game, as seen by his series with dde in the battlenet na invitational

idra was arguably the best foreign broodwar player of all time, and in sc2, a very unstably balanced and new game, i can understand idras frustration when he loses games to randoms like cruncher and mana,due to sc2's instability, and coin-flippy games. in broodwar, the better player nearly always wins, but in sc2 as idra has stated ''anyone can win''.

i can identify with idras bm and rage from time to time, it makes him easy to identify with, instead of some robot who just 'gg's'' after every game regardless

Funky

UnholyGregor wrote: »

first off, the ipl games are old as ****, as seen in the na battlenet invitational, idras doing pretty well in terms of cotroling his tilting, and staying in the game, as seen by his series with dde in the battlenet na invitational

They were only broadcast a couple of days before the invitational, sure they were played earlier than that but not by much. Then he went on to come like 4th? 4th in America is pretty, pretty, pretty bad. I know you love him in a purely manly way but him losing at the moment isn't SC2 being volatile he's just not playing well. My point in bringing up that game was that the way he acted he was obviously trying to express that he thought he should have won, where in reality he ****ed up. Not the game, not super surprise cheese, Idra. His mechanics might be amazing but his lategame decision making is most definitely not.

UnholyGregor

Funky wrote: »

They were only broadcast a couple of days before the invitational, sure they were played earlier than that but not by much. Then he went on to come like 4th?

they were played 3 months ago, pre infestor buff, when zvp was practically un winnable vs a competent opponent.

also, yeah he was knocked out of the invitational in a coinflip series by sheth

Funky

UnholyGregor wrote: »

they were played 3 months ago, pre infestor buff, when zvp was practically un winnable vs a competent opponent.

also, yeah he was knocked out of the invitational in a coinflip series by sheth

lol

Columc

UnholyGregor wrote: »

they were played 3 months ago, pre infestor buff, when zvp was practically un winnable vs a competent opponent.

also, yeah he was knocked out of the invitational in a coinflip series by sheth

He came 4th in the west blizzard NA tournament, which had 8 players in it... which were from the US, and not all of US was part of it, because the latin NA inv was on prior to that.

And IPL were not played 3 months ago, the finals just finished recently.

still love people thinking zvz is a coinflip, noting to do with skill, micro and macro no.

Kirby

ZvZ isn't a coinflip. It usually comes down to decision making. When should I tech switch, when should I engage him with my army and on what part of the map should I do it on. Baneling micro isn't as important as people think.

That's my take on it anyway.

Decerto

Columc wrote: »

near the end of the season were players play constantly. If you play constantly and you are a good player you should be high in the points. And I was using that as a example of people who would understand balance.

Im surprised you didnt mention about what region, and how diffrent regions are better.........

I think you missunderstood my post, i was simply correcting you on what high masters is, its not top8 or w/e its based off points.

On topic fav player atm puzzle, love how smart his builds and timings are, used to be naniwa since before he got famous around early 2010/homestory cup 2 time but now he is he seems to talk to much retarded ****

Most hated are gamers with undeserved attention with little to no results to back it up, so tlo ever since he asked his fans to vote him into that dignitas/scan tournament even though he hasnt had any results for 7+ months he thinks he deserves to be in a tournament with 7 of eu's best over players like nerchio/ret etc

UnholyGregor

Columc wrote: »

And IPL were not played 3 months ago, the finals just finished recently.

still love people thinking zvz is a coinflip, noting to do with skill, micro and macro no.

nobody said zvz is a coinflip.
i said, that series was a coinflip. game 1: 1base bane all in.
game 2. 2base roach timing, which, by pure chance, came about 20 seconds before idras infestors poped.
and yeah, you cant really ''love people thinking zvz is a coinflip'' since you have no idea how to play it either
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and you may be right, the finals, which did not involve idra, just finished recently.

Jonny7

UnholyGregor wrote: »

they were played 3 months ago, pre infestor buff, when zvp was practically un winnable vs a competent opponent.

also, yeah he was knocked out of the invitational in a coinflip series by sheth

3 months ago? pre infestor buff? lol

UnholyGregor

Jonny7 wrote: »

3 months ago? pre infestor buff? lol

yes around that time iirc, just going by what idra said on sotg, the games were played pre infestor buff, which is around 3 months, maybe 4?

Funky

They weren't prepatch.

UnholyGregor

and how do you know this?

Funky

'Cause you can see from games before his MaNa games that it's 4 second fungal(check Idra vs Moonan Winners Round 3, game 2, skip to about 16:30 in). Also that patch was like 5 months ago, to suggest that season 2 of the IPL was played before the season 1 finals were aired is pretty retarded. I'm pretty sure the season 1 finals were played post-patch too.

You should really check stuff before spouting nonsense, even in defense of your idol and god.

UnholyGregor

you sound mad
but yeah pretty sure it was pre infestor buff

Jonny7

UnholyGregor wrote: »

you sound mad
but yeah pretty sure it was pre infestor buff

Patch was in March, first WR games were played in June, then broadcast about a month later

Funky

zergisop

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UnholyGregor

unless i get a link proving when the ipl games were played, im going on the belief that the games were played pre buff, as i have no reason to believe what i heard on state of the game was wrong.
oh and zergisop, the effort you put into making that picture is really sad. your name is irony incarnate, and reported for abuse

zergisop

The picture is 100% accurate, is it not? Speaking of irony, you reporting me for abuse. <snip>

UnholyGregor

Attachment not found.This is all I feel you are achieving with your moronic posts.
Im very sorry you have to live on the same earth as me my friend, it must be horrible having to read posts on a sc2 forum from somebody whos opinion differs from your own....

edit: just noticed you only have 2posts. either your first time posting, has just made you look like an idiot, or you made a smurf account for your little rants, which, if true, is incredibly sad.

RoyalMarine

zergisop 1 month ban.

UnholyGregor, thank you for reporting this.
However, I will also not tolerate you encouraging people to rage against you and thus them getting a ban.
You have been warned for this before, and this is your last chance.

keep it civil and cut the shit

Columc

UnholyGregor wrote: »

unless i get a ling proving when the ipl games were played

http://ie.ign.com/ipl/starcraft2/matches/110-empirenerchio-sixjaxmajor

here is link for the IPL Season 2 Qualifier #1(ie the first qualifier) Round of 128, IE before the actual IPL2 even started, casted on July

sixjaxMajOr vs EmpireNerchio

at 13 mins into the VOD you can see the fungal.

Patch 1.3 which is the patch we are refereeing to was released in March 22nd.

The finals of IPL season 1 was aired on the 30th of April a whole month after the patch.

So you really are trying to say that IPL2 was played before the IPL season 1 was even shown to the public.

UnholyGregor

Thanks rm, not trying to stir **** up deliberately, if im wrong about the ipl games thats fine by me, but making a smurf account just to flame is ridiculous

Edit: thanks for the link, thats all i asked for, but i cant see why idra would lie on state of the game, i mean, sure he has a big ego, but it seems kind of strange...

RoyalMarine

UnholyGregor wrote: »

Thanks rm, not trying to stir **** up deliberately, if im wrong about the ipl games thats fine by me, but making a smurf account just to flame is ridiculous

Edit: thanks for the link, thats all i asked for, but i cant see why idra would lie on state of the game, i mean, sure he has a big ego, but it seems kind of strange...

you were stirring shít up deliberately.

edit: just noticed you only have 2posts. either your first time posting, has just made you look like an idiot, or you made a smurf account for your little rants, which, if true, is incredibly sad.

what type of a response do you think that person would have made if i had not banned them? next time, just report the post and dont waste your time or my time replying to it.

VikingErik

Going to get this thread back on track.

Lately I've been catching some player streams (because at work they moved my desk where my current ethernet port doesn't have every site under the sun blocked).

As I play Protoss I've been watching some Whitera, Huk and SaSe mainly. And SaSe is my new current hero. He's top 50ish on Korean GM (Higher than Huk who is top 3 in Master).

SaSe plays really long and interesting games. The only games under 20min are the ones that he loses (in general) and he has plenty of epic late games. So enjoyable. I'm not one to study build orders or anything like that but his play just seems so solid.

I recommend you check it out. And I hope it's not just been "a good week" for him.

IRL_Sinister

All ex-WC3 pros have great streams :>

VikingErik

IRL_Sinister wrote: »

All ex-WC3 pros have great streams :>

I prefer to read that as "All Swede pros have great streams" :P

I didn't care for pro gaming til SC2 came along. I was going to troll and be like "what's world cup 3?" or something but decided against it :P

I've been watching streams without sound at work so I've no idea if they talk while playing or not.

Final note on SaSe's stream: surprisingly few add breaks, if any.