southsiderosie wrote: » By what account? Or are you just going to stick to the usual rejoinders of one-liners and eye rolls without actually trying to substantiate anything in your posts?
paul71 wrote: » As regards the racial aspect, i am sure everybody would be supportive of the Turkish and Kurdish shop-keepers in Tottenham who have been forced into forming protective groups to safeguard their businesses and families from the rioters.
Nodin wrote: » You might take note of the number of "white" faces here then.http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/gallery/2011/aug/08/violence-looting-london-in-pictures#/?picture=377694982&index=0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14434552
walshb wrote: » Absolutely, and the same way that most in LA years ago were black. Never said whites don't riot, or aren't involved. I am simply saying that the cameras do not lie. Many of the rioters have no love, affection or respect for Britain and its meaning.
See, integration and multiculturalism never works. These parasites are not your genuine civilised 'English' people. Well, most of them aren't.
caseyann wrote: » I didnt reply to it because the rant was enough to ignore to be honest. Facts on tv are proof enough of what is going on and how the police are controlling and trying to stop it.;)
The Metropolitan Police said it was focused on containing violent disorder in Tottenham on Saturday night, which left dozens of officers injured and saw squad cars, shops and flats burned to the ground in some of the worst disturbances seen on British streets in recent years. But its tactics meant gangs of youths were free to break into stores at nearby Tottenham Hale retail park and in Wood Green, with looters forming an orderly queue in broad daylight to steal from a sports shop.Riot police did not intervene to stop the looting in some areas until 7.30am the following morning, almost 12 hours after the riots began, and last night there were fresh disturbances in nearby Enfield
We've detoured to Dalston where a bus was set on fire in shacklewell lane earlier. The single deck bus is now cordoned off and there doesn't seem to be much damage, but the incident has clearly shaken the large Turkish community here. Many shopkeepers are on the street talking about how they chased away the gang of youths behind the bus fire. "We beat up four of them quite badly and they ran off," one man, who wouldn't give his name, said. Another said: "this is not justice, coming here and trying to attack us." Notably several businesses are still open ascot usual here, unlike other violence hit areas. We've just watched a mob of locals chase a gang of hoodies down the main road, with police vans on full siren in pursuit.
KeithAFC wrote: » True but this is the London police? Surely they can stop 16+ year olds burning down huge buildings? The place is an utter mess.
mike65 wrote: » Clusterfvck of a thread The riots now have no connection whatsoever with the shooting of well known piece of scum last week. This is now about yoof "'aving a laff cos its fun innit" and I suspect the encouragement of same by those who seek to create a criminal economy in certain areas. ie drive out business through rioting/wholesale theft, undermine the councils rate base forcing cutbacks in services and police so leaving the way open for easier growth of "alternative" economy run by the criminal (under)classes.
Nodin wrote: » You're trying to imply that non-"whites" can't be english.
OhNoYouDidn't wrote: » Are you under the illusion the Met are a competent police force?
sink wrote: » That's bull****. The youths that are rioting are not some foreign immigrants just off the boat, they're second and third generation immigrants along with indigenous people who live in long established communities with plenty of ties to the democratic and civil apparatus of the country. Many from their communities are union jack waving british patriots. You are completely misaligning their motivations. This is not the equivalent to the Paris ghettos where muslim youths rioted.
walshb wrote: » Well, a dog can be born in a stable; doesn't make it a horse. And, I could be born in the jungle in Africa. Doen't make me African, AND Vice Versa for an African, Asian etc. An idol of mine, the great man, Muhammad Ali, said it perfectly. Seek it out, and you may find it too. This isn't about racism for me.
sink wrote: » You do realize that we're all African originally, don't you?
walshb wrote: » Well, a dog can be born in a stable; doesn't make it a horse. And, I could be born in the jungle in Africa. Doen't make me African, AND Vice Versa for an African, Asian etc. .
The average Englishman on the street cannot be comfortable or happy with their lands being infested with Indians, Africans, Chinese, Pakistanis. They just can't. Lets call a spade a spade. Historical and beautiful areas of London being overrun with foreigners? Don't tell me the English aren't mad at this.
walshb wrote: » What, and because they may happen to be thrid or fourth, or whatever, that makes them love the country? Honest question. Hey, I accept everyone as I see them, but no matter what, there will always always be trouble when "races" mix and when they become intertwined in society. White, black or any other colour.
Nodin wrote: » Lovely choice of words there. Revealing. A bit like herehttp://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=70522044&postcount=84
davoxx wrote: » as an english bloke said to me <paraphrased> "it's only poor on poor violence, who cares? when Harrods and the Palace are touched, we'll see the police hauling dead bodies!" </paraphrased> now what happened to that hacking scandal? anyone go to prison yet?
southsiderosie wrote: » What makes you think 'natives' love the country? Did you somehow miss the recent student riots? Or does street violence only matter to you if non-white people do it?
walshb wrote: » Yes, and many English people are mad. I would love a world with happiness, and all getting on like a ****ing house on fire, but that is not how we as humans operate. Integration, multiculturalsim and the "mixing" of races never ends up happy. Hey, that is just the way it is.
