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Gardai should be armed?

LC2010HIS

I read an article earlier in a newspaper and it really got me thinking.
They were arguing the Gardai are not taken seriously because they are unarmed!.

I completely agree. I do believe Gardai should be armed with guns. But at the same time, Im not nodding for widespread gun use.

I dont like how Gardai are unarmed and have an aul chat with a suspect etc.
Its very hard to take seriously!

I dont understand why they are unarmed to be honest.

What does everyone else think?

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Mickeroo

Solnskaya wrote: »

off topic(whats new)but i've always believed that people should be allowed to do as much hunting as they like, using their bare hands. That would even things up a bit. Anything beyond a big stick(and even that's cheating)should be illegal.

Also mandatory nakedness.

Norwayviking

Solnskaya wrote: »

off topic(whats new)but i've always believed that people should be allowed to do as much hunting as they like, using their bare hands. That would even things up a bit. Anything beyond a big stick(and even that's cheating)should be illegal.

I hope you dont plan on hunting aliigators:rolleyes:

LETHAL LADY

mattjack wrote: »

I thought they were all trained to use fire arms..

Do not really know tbh mattjack but where I live it was only the detectives had access to the gun press.

FGR

Blay wrote: »

A lot of hunters uses moderators to control the sound of their rifle

So this is what Dr Bollocko and KeithM89 get up to when they're not modding here.

EDIT: Originally I was joking but now that I see that Dr B also mods The Thunderdome I think he may actually sleep with a gun under his pillow. :pac:

Icyseanfitz

Solnskaya wrote: »

off topic(whats new)but i've always believed that people should be allowed to do as much hunting as they like, using their bare hands. That would even things up a bit. Anything beyond a big stick(and even that's cheating)should be illegal. FFS, if you want fish or venison, tesco have it in the frozen aisle. I'm an ex-hunter btw, but I still have a huge gun Audrey.

i suppose we where given nails and teeth for a reason

as for animals lingering from a modern hunting bow or crossbow, fat chance those things pack some punch would be equal to a gun considering the range it would have to be used from

harmoniums

I carry a pistol daily, concealed and lawfully.
I live in the states though where my chances of encountering an similarly armed bad guy are higher than Ireland, so I carry.
In Ireland I don't and really cant see the need, the gun per scumbag ratio is much much lower.
I have never drawn my weapon and feel just having it on makes me a much more careful and outwardly "cowardly" person.
I walk away from altercations, I don't escalate ever.
Most folks assume I'm just a big p*ssy, this suits me.

BTW did you know until very recently the firearms laws in Ireland (written in 1927) allowed you to carry your piece, the license was implicitly to posses and carry! Also you were allowed to carry if you were a "knacker" ... I assume in the old school sense, ie an animal renderer who needed a method of humane dispatch.
Knackers, imagine the possibilities!

Solnskaya

Norwayviking wrote: »

I hope you dont plan on hunting aliigators:rolleyes:

it's way more fun with bare hands, the alligator even gets to win sometimes. "Alligator hunting with bare hands" would be a top rated show tbh, it could also be a punishment for those delinquent kids, "go gettum Connor".

LC2010HIS

I wish I never mentioned hunting now :rolleyes::D

Witcher

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

as for animals lingering from a modern hunting bow or crossbow, fat chance those things pack some punch would be equal to a gun considering the range it would have to be used from

You'd be suprised, if a deer for example can take a shot from something like a .308 round or above and survive for even 30 seconds, I'd seriously doubt whether a bow could be depended on to give a clean kill. That's not to say it can't be done but it wouldn't be as consistent as a rifle.

This is way off topic anyway...

Norwayviking

Solnskaya wrote: »

it's way more fun with bare hands, the alligator even gets to win sometimes. "Alligator hunting with bare hands" would be a top rated show tbh, it could also be a punishment for those delinquent kids, "go gettum Connor".

Well i think you will be the one and only hunter in that category then,lol;)

Solnskaya

mattjack wrote: »

I thought they were all trained to use fire arms..

I'm not so sure they've all even been trained to use toilets.....

FGR

harmoniums wrote: »

I carry a pistol daily, concealed and lawfully.
Knackers, imagine the possibilities!

You make a very strong point though Harmoniums. There are a lot of people who feel unsafe and would prefer to carry something on them for their own personal protection. Something such as a mild pepper spray would be great for some people but I can only imagine how easily it would be abused by those who would use it for reasons other than defence.

Shame, too. As a lot of good people get assaulted/robbed through absolutely no fault of their own.

You've mentioned the proportion of gun per scumbag. On a similar topic I've also noticed that, when in Georgia, New York and Wisconsin; that the presence of Police was much higher than it is here. On a night out there's cops on pretty much every corner if not a local/county/state cruiser passing you every five minutes.

Shame that we'll never see this here. Given Garda numbers and the small number of patrol cars/motorbikes attached to a station.

Sunnyisland

LC2010HIS wrote: »

I wish I never mentioned hunting now :rolleyes::D

You derailed our thread.:mad:;)

Norwayviking

Blay wrote: »

You'd be suprised, if a deer for example can take a shot from something like a .308 round or above and survive for even 30 seconds, I'd seriously doubt whether a bow could be depended on to give a clean kill. That's not to say it can't be done but it wouldn't be as consistent as a rifle.

The new modern crossbows and compound bows has a serious knock down power,if you hit what you aim for.
They are well capable of killing an an animal just like a rifle.
The problem is that you have to do it close up.
With a rifle you can extend the range,and still make a clean humane kill.

LC2010HIS

ForegoneReality wrote: »

. On a similar topic I've also noticed that, when in Georgia, New York and Wisconsin; that the presence of Police was much higher than it is here. .

I think big gardai numbers in the country would enforce respect? Or at least cop on... ... ..

LC2010HIS

Norwayviking wrote: »

The new modern crossbows and compound bows has a serious knock down power,if you hit what you aim for.
They are well capable of killing an an animal just like a rifle.
The problem is that you have to do it close up.
With a rifle you can extend the range,and still make a clean humane kill.

Jesus christ like....:D

mattjack

LC2010HIS wrote: »

I think big gardai numbers in the country would enforce respect? Or at least cop on... ... ..

yep..I know whatcha mean..since they did away with the height requirment all we got now is little gardai numbers...

LC2010HIS

mattjack wrote: »

yep..I know whatcha mean..since they did away with the height requirment all we got now is little gardai numbers...

I'm 6".. female like:D

Norwayviking

LC2010HIS wrote: »

Jesus christ like....:D

well i think we will leave him out of it for now;)

Solnskaya

Personally, I've a firearms licence(so I can't be a complete nutter, apparently), and I like having a gun. It's a nice fall back. So maybe the cops here should be armed, if only because all the health and safety/training courses they would have to attend would mean they had less time available to hassle me about car tax and tyres etc.

Chuck Stone

If the police carry guns then I want to be able to own one.

Fair's fair.

mattjack

LC2010HIS wrote: »

I'm 6".. female like:D

:pac: I promise ,your honour ,to make no smart comments...........

mattjack

Solnskaya wrote: »

Personally, I've a firearms licence(so I can't be a complete nutter, apparently), and I like having a gun. It's a nice fall back. So maybe the cops here should be armed, if only because all the health and safety/training courses they would have to attend would mean they had less time available to hassle me about car tax and tyres etc.

partial nutter ...?

mattjack

LC2010HIS wrote: »

I'm 6".. female like:D

ohhhh I cant help myself.....you,re like a female..? a transgender garda ?

harmoniums

Chuck Stone wrote: »

If the police carry guns then I want to be able to own one.

Fair's fair.

Why cant you? do you have a criminal record?
if not, apply, pistol wise your limited to a .22.
Rifle wise a 22 semi auto or a bolt action centerfire.
If you want a semi auto rifle, you'll need a monitored (like phonewatch or soemthing) safe

Witcher

Norwayviking wrote: »

well i think we will leave him out of it for now;)

Pff Jesus could solve all our problems with this:P

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/18/Jesus_gun.jpg

Chuck Stone wrote: »

If the police carry guns then I want to be able to own one.

Fair's fair.

You can own one.

Chuck Stone

harmoniums wrote: »

Why cant you? do you have a criminal record?
if not, apply, pistol wise your limited to a .22.
Rifle wise a 22 semi auto or a bolt action centerfire.
If you want a semi auto rifle, you'll need a monitored (like phonewatch or soemthing) safe

Blay wrote: »

You can own one.

I have no criminal record.

Am I allowed to own a hand gun?

LC2010HIS

mattjack wrote: »

ohhhh I cant help myself.....you,re like a female..? a transgender garda ?

What!?!?:(:D

Witcher

Chuck Stone wrote: »

I have no criminal record.

Am I allowed to own a hand gun?

You can own a rimfire .22 pistol if you are a member of a target shooting club.

Sunnyisland

I am always armed & my legs are not to bad either.

night.