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Very Tense In Belfast

JONJO THE MISER

There was massive violence in Belfast last night and tonight it seems things are very tense with water cannons and riot police all over the place.
There is a massive thread over on Politics.ie which is giving very accurate accounts of what is going on.
Hopefully things dont go back to the bad old days.

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The 12th is on the way so it is bound to go a bit loco with the orange boys on the moonshine.

Richard Hillman

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

All it takes is one gobsh!te to get something wrong over on twitter, gets retweeted and spread around, appears on a site and suddenly its fact.

http://www.facebook.com/irishrepublicanforum

The reports that get posted up there would be the most accurate as its collected from people in the actual area. The reports they had yesterday turned out pretty correct.

:pac: The website are known to be IRA supporters and the type of people that were out protesting with the heroin addicts during the royal visit. The reports will be about as one sided and exaggerated as North Korean TV

Wolfe Tone

Richard Hillman wrote: »

:pac: The website are known to be IRA supporters and the type of people that were out protesting with the heroin addicts during the royal visit. The reports will be about as one sided and exaggerated as North Korean TV

Yesterdays reports on there were very accurate to be fair.

The Left Hand Of God

dublincelt wrote: »

People like me?? Ha ha. Good one.

What are the dynamics of this specific act of loyalist aggression? Seeing as you are "from the North" you must be an expert! :rolleyes:

Slightly more than you tbh.

K-9

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

All it takes is one gobsh!te to get something wrong over on twitter, gets retweeted and spread around, appears on a site and suddenly its fact.

http://www.facebook.com/irishrepublicanforum

The reports that get posted up there would be the most accurate as its collected from people in the actual area. The reports they had yesterday turned out pretty correct.

Yeah Facebook is far more reliable than Twitter.

yeahimhere

oh god, just watching Sky News there and on the headline, the presenter said that "Loyalist Republicans were rioting with police" he stumbled a little bit when I think he realised what he said.

Journalism at its finest.

Wolfe Tone

K-9 wrote: »

Yeah Facebook is far more reliable than Twitter.

The vast majority of reports will come from that site, PULSE etc and get embellished and put on twitter, simple as.

dublincelt

The Left Hand Of God wrote: »

Slightly more than you tbh.

Thanks for the insightful response. Was just what I was expecting and you didn’t disappoint.

AckwelFoley

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

The vast majority of reports will come from that site, PULSE etc and get embellished and put on twitter, simple as.

I love PULSE. Its a great read, Peoples bitterness and narrow mindedness will amaze. The only site ive ever known where thy ban you based on your IP rather than your postings

I remember reading some of the posts there. One guy was a greek Aussie who hated the northern catholics more than most of the rest of them. Reminded me of the small smelly kid nobody liked in school that would try too hard to make friends being something they're not.

Alot of silly tom foolery really

For Forks Sake

yeahimhere wrote: »

oh god, just watching Sky News there and on the headline, the presenter said that "Loyalist Republicans were rioting with police" he stumbled a little bit when I think he realised what he said.

Journalism at its finest.

Wait till they find out it was actually Republican Loyalists. Boy, will their faces be red.

Messi2

Just watching the "riots" there on Sky. Wont be heading up there any time soon. Well, until they're all back in school anyway.

K-9

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

The vast majority of reports will come from that site, PULSE etc and get embellished and put on twitter, simple as.

Yeah, it's one side of the eye witness reports, Twitter is good for journalists and more unbiased sources, Eamonn Mallie etc.

Suppose it's a PR coup for the Republican riots last August.

Anyway, it's supposed to have calmed down and community groups will have meetings tomorrow.

Judgement Day

Latchy wrote: »

I use to wish that one day , the whole of NI would just drift off to up to Antartica and take it's ugly, evil troubles with it to .

As long as it drags Louth/Leitrim/Cavan and Monaghan away with it too.

yeahimhere

Messi2 wrote: »

Just watching the "riots" there on Sky. Wont be heading up there any time soon. Well, until they're all back in school anyway.

They were only kids though shown in the report, such a shame that the whole two nights riots were incited by adults and they're managing to pass down the violence to the next generation. Or wonder if it was like the Love Ulster parade where young scummers with nothing better to do just latch onto anything that's happening.

bonerm

I personally believe it's down to the amount of cholesterol in their diets. They'd give the Scots a run for their money in the arterial stakes.

fedor.2.

Reading the thread title, i was going to recommend a masseuse i had visited in the area before

For Forks Sake

bonerm wrote: »

I personally believe it's down to the amount of cholesterol in their diets. They'd give the Scots a run for their money in the arterial stakes.

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Any time I'm up north for work it never ceases to amaze me the number of chip vans doing a roaring trade at all hours of the day.

TiGeR KiNgS

There's a welcomed lack of KeithAFC in this thread.
I wonder if he was shot last night ?

That is all

djrichard

bayern282 wrote: »

As depressing as it sounds, there maybe something in the Northern Irish / West of Scotland psyche that enjoys this sectarian rubbish.

I'm from Scotland, as far west as you could be. Growing up, I'm 34, you would hear about the troubles on the news. It all seemed so distant and really nothing to give a huge amount of thought to as it never seemed like anything to do with our own lives. Thought of it in the same way I do now when I hear of problems in the middle east etc.

Since moving to Dublin 2-3 months ago I've been amazed at how much people in the republic distance themselves from the north. Maybe this is nno surprise to anyone from here, but I grew up wrongly assuming that the problems were in the south too. Just on Saturday I was playing a game of 7-A-side and the team I was playing for had a blue strip. I wore my rangers top as it was pouring rain and it wasn't as see through as the teams primark (pennies I think its called here) €3 t-shirts! Apart from a few heckles in jest, not one person cared I was wearing it.

Hundreds of times I've played football with friends wearing a Rangers top, they wearing their Celtic tops, it really means nothing to most people. I don't know anyone personally in Scotland that cares about any of these things.

I think its a terrible shame that this drivel is still tearing families apart and causing so many to live in fear.

Are there any problems in Dublin during these times in the north?

HellFireClub

djrichard wrote: »

I'm from Scotland, as far west as you could be. Growing up, I'm 34, you would hear about the troubles on the news. It all seemed so distant and really nothing to give a huge amount of thought to as it never seemed like anything to do with our own lives. Thought of it in the same way I do now when I hear of problems in the middle east etc.

Since moving to Dublin 2-3 months ago I've been amazed at how much people in the republic distance themselves from the north. Maybe this is nno surprise to anyone from here, but I grew up wrongly assuming that the problems were in the south too. Just on Saturday I was playing a game of 7-A-side and the team I was playing for had a blue strip. I wore my rangers top as it was pouring rain and it wasn't as see through as the teams primark (pennies I think its called here) €3 t-shirts! Apart from a few heckles in jest, not one person cared I was wearing it.

Hundreds of times I've played football with friends wearing a Rangers top, they wearing their Celtic tops, it really means nothing to most people. I don't know anyone personally in Scotland that cares about any of these things.

I think its a terrible shame that this drivel is still tearing families apart and causing so many to live in fear.

Are there any problems in Dublin during these times in the north?

People down here were not born and reared in a sectarian soup of pure pathlogical hatred for others in the community. The hatred you see up in the north, it's bred into them, it's on both sides and it'll probably take many generations for them to learn how to get on with each other normally...

Latchy

Judgement Day wrote: »

As long as it drags Louth/Leitrim/Cavan and Monaghan away with it too.

LOL ...Ahh..sure why not sling a hook over and take Rockall along the way to

Where To

Just done a run to ravenhill, looked the same as every other evening to me

Scumbags fighting in scumbag areas, hardly earth shattering news

theboss80

Judgement Day wrote: »

As long as it drags Louth/Leitrim/Cavan and Monaghan away with it too.

So Donegal becomes an island then?:eek::eek::D

ascanbe

TiGeR KiNgS wrote: »

There's a welcomed lack of KeithAFC in this thread.
I wonder if he was shot last night ?

That is all

He's busy reskinning his Lambeg drum, i believe.

Wolfe Tone

Over 700 people involved now, reportedly a photographer has been shot in the leg.

amacachi

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Over 700 people involved now, reportedly a photographer has been shot in the leg.

Once again I have to ask why they're not all being rounded up.

Wolfe Tone

amacachi wrote: »

Once again I have to ask why they're not all being rounded up.

No point asking me lol. Too many I would say, hard to arrest that many. They are firing baton rounds though.

yeahimhere

It really depends on a few things I suppose, mainly as a previous poster said, we haven't had to live in major sectarian areas. I'll give as high level a personal view as I can for you.

djrichard wrote: »

I'm from Scotland, as far west as you could be. Growing up, I'm 34, you would hear about the troubles on the news. It all seemed so distant and really nothing to give a huge amount of thought to as it never seemed like anything to do with our own lives. Thought of it in the same way I do now when I hear of problems in the middle east etc.

While I wouldn't think of it at all in the same way as when I hear of problems in the middle east, since it was on this Island and it would be discussed a lot more by people regularly, it was relevant to me but it didn't really directly impact my life. I would have known people, while not injured, but who were caught up in violence so had a 1st party report about things that happened rather than just news reports.

Since moving to Dublin 2-3 months ago I've been amazed at how much people in the republic distance themselves from the north. Maybe this is nno surprise to anyone from here, but I grew up wrongly assuming that the problems were in the south too. Just on Saturday I was playing a game of 7-A-side and the team I was playing for had a blue strip. I wore my rangers top as it was pouring rain and it wasn't as see through as the teams primark (pennies I think its called here) €3 t-shirts! Apart from a few heckles in jest, not one person cared I was wearing it.

Different areas of the south, and different people in the south will have different opinions. Many are very nationalistic to varying degrees, others haven't had any direct impact from the conflict or just do see it as you would have, the same as a conflict in the middle east. Most would, in my opinion, have just got on with their own lives. Who really wants to get involved in trouble if it's not needed? If it's not happening on your doorstep, it's easy to forget what's happening elsewhere especially when you have your own hardship to focus on. The hard thing is that there are a million reasons for people to care, or not care and it's too hard to just write a few lines and explain them all.

Hundreds of times I've played football with friends wearing a Rangers top, they wearing their Celtic tops, it really means nothing to most people. I don't know anyone personally in Scotland that cares about any of these things.

Nor do I, it doesn't mean that there are those who don't. Look at the mail bombs which were sent to Neil Lennon. It's not the majority, just some silly minority.

Are there any problems in Dublin during these times in the north?

amacachi

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

No point asking me lol. Too many I would say, hard to arrest that many. They are firing baton rounds though.

One obviously hesitates to ask if it'd be the same if it were the other way around.

Wolfe Tone

amacachi wrote: »

One obviously hesitates to ask if it'd be the same if it were the other way around.

They have water cannons parked up nearby... I wonder why they aren't being used?

Just wait, I bet it's gonna kick off at interfaces all over the place this summer after this.