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Which of the following sporting achievements would mean more to the nation?

Godot.

Winning another 6 Nations Grand SlamorQualifying for the football European Championships?I'm posting it on here as opposed to the sports section as I daresay the majority are casual/fairweather sports fans.

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Quazzie

Poll is multiple choice. Woohoo. I wouldn't have voted if I couldn't also say that Biko was ghey!

mackg

Opelfruit wrote: »

You mean the Third World disagrees. Soccer is in terminal decline in Europe and other first world countries. The reasons it became popular in the first place no longer applies there. Soccers day is over, the sports of the next century will be tennis, basketball, rugby etc.

In recent years we have seen the emergence of Austrailia, New Zealand, North Korea, South Korea etc etc etc begin to field better and better international teams along with the rapid growth of the game in Africa. As well as the fact that peripheral european nations getting stronger. This the first I have heard of this decline. More than likely a joke post but just in case....

Kidchameleon

Seachmall wrote: »

I don't follow sport and only watch the odd rugby or soccer game but even I can see there is some amount of technique, tactics and strategy involved in rugby. It's not a game where you can have one solid player and let him support the team, the whole team needs to know exactly what's going on and work together.

With soccer you could have one player doing all the work (which happens a lot imo) but the real beauty comes when they all are perfectly in sync and have a proper plan (as oppose to "pass to [insert over-payed metrosexual here]")

Both games are great when played well.

Therefore your opinion doesn't count.

Opelfruit

kfallon wrote: »

So you're saying Rugby is more popular worldwide and indeed in this country???

No, soccers popularity in many countries is in decline as participation in other sports increases. Soccer could be played anywhere by anyone. This was not true of rugby, basketball, volleyball etc as you needed certain equipment & numbers to play. In Europe and the rest of the first world this is no longer an issue. Basketball wasnt even played in Europe 50 years ago, now its the second most popular team sport. The world changes, soccers decline is part of that change.

orourkeda

TheZohan wrote: »

Winning the 6 Nations and Grand Slam of course.

How on earth could that compare to merely qualifying for the Euro's? We're too used to having a great rugby team, that's the problem.

Irish sports fans follow success.

When our soccer team were qualifying for world cups in the nineties our rugby team were an embarrassment. Which team were the most popular back then?

Snickers Man

Opelfruit wrote: »

Irish outside backs of the 90s didnt know who Eric Elwood was!

A tad unfair but very funny.

Actually I think that would be more appositely said about Barry McGann or Mick English. But then you have to be REALLY old to remember either of them.

Snickers Man

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

The world disagrees.

The Irish public doesn't.

More people go regularly to see Munster and Leinster play in the Magners League (or whatever it will be called next year) than to see Ireland (or at least the southern three quarters of it) play the world cup semifinalists in Dublin.

ejmaztec

Kojak wrote: »

Why is this thread limited to Soccer and rugby?

Surely other sports should get a mention, for example the performance of the irish cricket team at the last world cup?

...or face-palming sports like female boxing.

Sanjuro

I fail to see the appeal in football. 22 mentally undevelloped millionaire sexual deviants desperately trying to kick a ball at a net. Sorry. Just don't get it.

ancapailldorcha

Rugby, on account of it actually being a sport.

Seachmall

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Therefore your opinion doesn't count.

I don't follow sport and only watch the odd rugby or soccer game but even I can see ...

Reading comprehension is a fantastic skill.

macman2010

playing football is great i play for a team, but its like watching paint dry (unless its barca)
+ you have all the sheite that goes with it. Giggs, Sepp blatter, Rooney swearing into the camera. I for one would not want my children looking up to these overpaid morons. Lets face it half of the premiership footballers would be on rogue traders if they didnt know how to kick a ball.

i for one have become completely disillusioned with professional football ( as have many of my freinds).

Rugby is getting very popular in Ireland due to the success of the national & provincial teams and rightly so IMO.
Professional rugby is better is now better than football.
Ireland winning the RWC in September would be the highlight.

kfallon

Snickers Man wrote: »

The Irish public doesn't.

More people go regularly to see Munster and Leinster play in the Magners League (or whatever it will be called next year) than to see Ireland (or at least the southern three quarters of it) play the world cup semifinalists in Dublin.

If it was a WC Semi Final the place would be packed, I bet I could pick some Magners League games involving Connacht where the attendances are pretty poor.

It all depends on the context and opposition in the games. The Uruguay match was a friendly

Kevin Duffy

It's kinda depressing that you can't really discuss sport in Ireland without quickly becoming an airing of mindless prejudicies - your sport is ghey! No, yours is! Yore ma is ghey! Yore ma is sporty! I play something or other therefore it is the best! So do I so my opinion counts more!.....yawn.

I'll take both Ireland winning the 6 Nations (actually, Grand Slam, we're due) and the club competitions in rugby, plus qualifying for Euros 'cos that me holliers plan for next year. I know the question was either or, but I don't care! :pac:

roryc

Soccer is not declining, quite the opposite in fact. You are basing your opinion on absolutely nothing. Particpation in Asian and African countries, as well as soccer shooting up the rankings in America is causing the membership of the game to increase exponentially (approx 3.5 billion fans worldwide - thats HALF the worlds population). It is both the most played, and most watched by a considerable amount.

Basketball isn't even in the top five by estimated number of fans

http://www.mostpopularsports.net/

Back up your opinion with some facts from reputable sources, or admit you are making this up because you don't like football.

mackg

Snickers Man wrote: »

The Irish public doesn't.

More people go regularly to see Munster and Leinster play in the Magners League (or whatever it will be called next year) than to see Ireland (or at least the southern three quarters of it) play the world cup semifinalists in Dublin.

Play an Ireland soccer match in Thomond park and i will go to it. Its unfortunate that the cost of accomodation, travel and tickets for international soccer make it a fairly big stretch in terms of cash for all the fans outside of Dublin and its surroundings, on top of the fact many games are played midweek.

ClashCityRocker

kfallon wrote: »

Most of us are used to have a relatively poor rugby team....it's only the blow ins from the last 6 or 7 years who are used to success.

Most of them couldn't tell you who Tony Ward, Ralph Keyes, Eric Elwood, Simon Geoghegan or Brendan Mullin are!

Don't be silly :rolleyes:

Everyone knows Ralph and Tony are commentators on rte.

kfallon

Sanjuro wrote: »

I fail to see the appeal in football. 22 mentally undevelloped millionaire sexual deviants desperately trying to kick a ball at a net. Sorry. Just don't get it.

As opposed to rugby where you are not allowed pass the ball forward and the highlight for many player is squeezing an opposition players bollox in the scrum :rolleyes:

ejmaztec

Soccer players wouldn't play rugby because their make-up would get ruined.

loobylou

Pains me to say it but the Yanks have been right all along. Soccer is a girls game.

Celly Smunt

loobylou wrote: »

Pains me to say it but the Yanks have been right all along. Soccer is a girls game.

it's true,but they can't really speak considering american football is one big long advertisement

IRISHSPORTSGUY

Snickers Man wrote: »

The Irish public doesn't.

More people go regularly to see Munster and Leinster play in the Magners League (or whatever it will be called next year) than to see Ireland (or at least the southern three quarters of it) play the world cup semifinalists in Dublin.

It wasn't a competitive match though. Plus Uruguay aren't a big name, they have only a couple of star quality players (Suarez, Forlan) and were a dilligent team greater than the sum of their parts in the World Cup. They basically overachieved.

Now if it was Spain or England in a friendly...

Sanjuro

kfallon wrote: »

As opposed to rugby where you are not allowed pass the ball forward and the highlight for many player is squeezing an opposition players bollox in the scrum :rolleyes:

Ah, the old 'ghey ball-squeezing' argument. Change the record.

TheZohanS

kfallon wrote: »

As opposed to rugby where you are not allowed pass the ball forward and the highlight for many player is squeezing an opposition players bollox in the scrum :rolleyes:

Indeed. :rolleyes:

[Deleted User]

Silly pole.... :pac:
Multiple choice, I ticked all of them :P

theboss80

roryc wrote: »

Basketball isn't even in the top five by estimated number of fans

http://www.mostpopularsports.net/

Back up your opinion with some facts from reputable sources, or admit you are making this up because you don't like football.

In Ireland basketball has the highest participating numbers of secondary school students of any sport played in schools

Amazotheamazing

I don't know, ever since soccer came out, I've been really hoping we'd do well and show we've moved beyond that catholic Ireland nonsense.

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/video/soccer-officially-announces-it-is-gay,17603/

kfallon

TheZohan wrote: »

Indeed. :rolleyes:

The exception rather than the rule!!!
What about eye-gouging, spearing, giving someone a cauliflower ear and just general punch ups.....all part and parcel of rugby!

theboss80

kfallon wrote: »

The exception rather than the rule!!!
What about eye-gouging, spearing, giving someone a cauliflower ear and just general punch ups.....all part and parcel of rugby!

Huh?

ejmaztec

kfallon wrote: »

The exception rather than the rule!!!
What about eye-gouging, spearing, giving someone a cauliflower ear and just general punch ups.....all part and parcel of being a soccer spectator!

fyp:D