Sharrow wrote: » I get that it's a hard job. I get that some members of the public are arseholes. I get that dealing with scumbags isn't fun. I get that doing check points is not fun, esp when it's raining. What I don't get is the rotten attitude from some of them. I know they have proceedures but to be automatically cold and hostile when dealing with the public does nothing but harm. We got stopped at a check point not long after the random breath teating came in. It was a big enough opperation on the N3 they had both sides of the road closed off and a were stopping cars. It was 9:30pm on a wet winters night and we'd two very tired and crankly kids in the back who, knew we were 5 mins from home and were bewildered at us being stopped. The garda shining bright lights in on top of them didn't help. When the drivers window was rolled down he raced off into the prepared speak of under legistlation X and Act Y bla blah bla and I had the kids getting upset in the back. I started to explain to the kids what was going on to get yelled at to shut up, despite the fact I was in the front passenger seat and wasn't interacting with the garda. That upset the kids even more and I got told to shut the kids up. That didn't go down with me at all and I asked him for his name, number and what station he was based out of. I got told if I didn't shut up I would be arrested for disrupting a garda in doing his duty. I said fine that I was going to get into back into the back of the car with the kids to calm them down. I got told if I got out of the car it would be considered a hostile act. WTF The youngest kid was crying at this stage, freaked out as garda are ment to be helpful people. I got out of the passenger door to get into the back of the car and he called over another garda to detain me. I had enough at this stage and demanded to see the officer in charge of the check point, and when they got lippy with me said I was going to ring the local station to make a complaint and then I was going to ring garda HQ in the park were the metro section are based out of as they were being rude and terrifying kids in the back of cars. Suddenly their tune changed and I could get in the back of the car with the kids. A different garda came over to the car and did the breath test and the ignorant, arrogant prick who had stopped us stropped off. We got home I put the kids to be, both freaked out at how nasty the garda had been, seriously if he had of done something as simple as said hello/good evening to the lot of us and told the kids he was just doing a check to see how good a driver thier father was it would have made a huge difference. I did make complaints to the local super, the metro section and the garda ombudsman and was told that it was received and would be taken into consideration. Never did get that plonker's numbers, it's hard to see then on the leathers the metros wear in the day time never mind at night in the dark and the rain.
Jimmy Garlic wrote: » Came across a checkpoint tonight. All well and good the usual, then the Guard asked me where I was going. I told him it was none of his business then he got a bit cranky and leisurely walked around the car with my licence in his hand to waste my time. Do they think that this is the Soviet Union or something?. What right have they to ask people where they are going?.
zuroph wrote: » I've had one or two as well, but like i said, clamming up isnt going to make it any better, the best way to disarm someone is with politeness.
zuroph wrote: » ah yeah, but its like, would these people take such offence when a shopkeeper says, "so any plans for tonight?"..
The cops is trying to have a conversation to hear how people talk, to form an opinion on drink or drugs most likely. To not want to chat back is bizarre in the least.
zuroph wrote: » so, doesnt mean they have to enjoy it, they still do it! just be polite and chatty, ud be surprised how this disarms people.
robbie7730 wrote: » If you apply to be a garda, you would hardly be all that surprised if your duties involved manning a checkpoint. And it may well be in the winter.
zuroph wrote: » who DOES like standing out in the dark and cold?!!
Fulton Crown wrote: » Less of the rolling eyes pal. Only a really thick guy would join the guards and think that late nights and standing out in the cold was a matter of choice. My point was if they dont like standing out in the cold late at night..they might have thought of a different career. Anythin about that you don't understand ?
hondasam wrote: » I hear they have a good sense of humour, asking for phone numbers is common practise. have you ever been stopped by a guard ?
Fulton Crown wrote: » My point was if they dont like standing out in the cold late at night..they might have thought of a different career. Anythin about that you don't understand ?
Biggins wrote: » Maybe so, a person can still choose they own words in reply. Just do so on the understanding that ye must accept the consequences of ones words too. Yea, because like all jobs, they get to choose their job areas and tasks of course! :rolleyes:
Dotsie~tmp wrote: » And a million more why he was right to tell him politely that its none of his business.
Fulton Crown wrote: » ...Fcukin obvious to this poster if the dislike standing out on cold nights they should have chosen another career ? Once in a while ...yeah......
Biggins wrote: » There is a number of reasons why they ask you something. 1. They listen to your voice to see if your slurring your words! 2. They might be seeking someone that resides in a particular area. 3. They might actually be advising people to avoid an area once in a while and do so when they hear your direction! 4. They might be delaying you while they check out your details and try spot the tax/insurance dodgers... ...and so on! For gods sake, if all it takes to get your gall up is a simple question, you really need to grow up OP.Gardi don't particularly like standing out on cold nights, on dark roads, having to stop people - but once in a while they do actually catch folk that are out of their heads on drink and/or drugs that are driving. Folk that maybe might have otherwise got away and injured/killed someones son/daughter/mother/father! I hope its not your family effected some day OP. ...Just answer the question, drive on and get on with your life!
Biggins wrote: » There is a number of reasons why they ask you something. 1. They listen to your voice to see if your slurring your words! 2. They might be seeking someone that resides in a particular area. 3. They might actually be advising people to avoid an area once in a while and do so when they hear your direction! 4. They might be delaying you while they check out your details and try spot the tax/insurance dodgers... ...and so on! For gods sake, if all it takes to get your gall up is a simple question, you really need to grow up OP. Gardi don't particularly like standing out on cold nights, on dark roads, having to stop people - but once in a while they do actually catch folk that are out of their heads on drink and/or drugs that are driving. Folk that maybe might have otherwise got away and injured/killed someones son/daughter/mother/father! I hope its not your family effected some day OP. ...Just answer the question, drive on and get on with your life!
AudreyHepburn wrote: » I don't know but it wouldn't bother me if they did. I'm sure they would have their reasons even if it was just checking how lucid I am.
AudreyHepburn wrote: » Then it is just a harmless question and there really is no need to get indignant about it. Just answer it and be done.
hondasam wrote: » It depends on the CP they are carrying out. If it is a routine CP then there is no reason they would ask anything.
Ask over in emergency services and see what your answer will be.
hondasam wrote: » Do you think they would ask if you were married or single ?
hondasam wrote: » It depends on the CP they are carrying out. If it is a routine CP then there is no reason they would ask anything. Ask over in emergency services and see what your answer will be.
AudreyHepburn wrote: » But you have no way of knowing what he is looking for. And if you do think it makes no difference to him what have you got to lose by telling him?
hondasam wrote: » Not at all, I Don't have a problem with AGS. I'm well aware of the difficult job they have. It would not be common practise to question people at a routine CP. I cannot see why your occupation would be of any interest to a guard who is looking at your Tax ins etc.
AudreyHepburn wrote: » What makes you think they don't have valid reasons? There could be many reasons why they are questioning you. I and others have pointed them repeatedly. You do seem to have a chip on your shoulder about this.
