purity wrote: » it's something I've wanted to do as I love animals I am a vegetarian now after years of consideration
purity wrote: » I made a boo boo there what I meant was I'm off red meat years and only gave up chicken this year seeing as I'm only off it two months I called myself semi but now I realise I must be a vegetarian because I don't eat any meat now.
Lu Tze wrote: » Do you wear leather? I love meeting vegetarians who proclaim themselves as such while wearing leather shoes - peeling animals is ok, but eating the insides is a big no no!
LK_Dave wrote: » what is your cholesterol level? Not poking fun - I've heard that many vegetarians and vegans suffer from high cholesterol.
PeakOutput wrote: » Cholesterol is hereditary not diet related
purity wrote: » Well as a newbie vegetarian I avoid meat at all costs however chicken was hard to give up but I'm now full vegetarian because I like animals. So whats your opinion on this?
LK_Dave wrote: » And what of the question of consuming the the nucleus of their (animals) unborn, eg an egg?
Lu Tze wrote: » An egg is general not an unborn chicken - it is unfertilised
purity wrote: » No I actually hate leather the smell and look of it makes me sick. I will admit I eat jellies but have cut them down massively as they're made of gelatin. Look I'm not an in your face vegetarian I have only practised it for the first time this year cutting out all meat and seeked advice from people. Some vegetarians are silly but I'm not an extreme I just hope the animals are treated with dignity and killed humanely as many videos online will show you that unfortunately the people performing the slaughter have no compassion for the animals and they die in immense pain. I like animals simple as:)
LK_Dave wrote: » I'm not a doctor but I'm pretty sure that hereditary is not the only factor in high cholesterol levels.
Because of the propaganda, you can be forgiven for thinking that cholesterol is a harmful alien substance that should be avoided at all costs. In fact, nothing could be further from the truth. Cholesterol is an essential component in the body. It is found in all the cells of the body, particularly in the brain and nerve cells. Body cells are continually dying and new ones being made. Cholesterol is a major building block from which cell walls are made. Cholesterol is also used to make a number of other important substances: hormones (including the sex hormones), bile acids and, in conjunction with sunlight on the skin, vitamin D 3 . The body uses large quantities of cholesterol every day and the substance is so important that, with the exception of brain cells, every body cell has the ability to make it. Cholesterol may be ingested in animal products, but less than twenty percent of your body's cholesterol needs will be supplied in this way. Your body then makes up the difference. If you eat less cholesterol, your body merely compensates by making more. Although the media and food companies still warn against cholesterol in diet, it has been repeatedly demonstrated that the level of cholesterol in your blood is affected very little by the amount of cholesterol you eat.
Lu Tze wrote: » Just out of interest have you managed to avoid buying leather shoes then!?
purity wrote: » Good question must get it checked;) Haven't a clue all I know is my iron and proteins levels are normal
LK_Dave wrote: » When you do get it checked could you let us know how it reads - normal, above, below? Would be interested to hear real facts rather than those banded about by both sides of the debate.
purity wrote: » I'm now full vegetarian because I like animals.
13spanner wrote: » purity wrote: » I'm now full vegetarian because I like animals. Sure we all like animals :rolleyes: not enough of a reason to become a veggie though! I'd never stop eating meat, firstly because it's the tastiest stuff going, and I'd imagine it'd lead to some awkward moments visiting family/friends when they go to the bother of doing a lovely roast etc. and you wouldn't touch it. Just my opinion anyway. 13spanner It's difficult at times as vegetarians are a minority and most eat meat. It was tasty especially country style sausages and white pudding but I don't miss them, my diet is boring and basic and sometimes I wonder am I receiving enough nutrients.
purity wrote: » I'm now full vegetarian because I like animals. Sure we all like animals :rolleyes: not enough of a reason to become a veggie though! I'd never stop eating meat, firstly because it's the tastiest stuff going, and I'd imagine it'd lead to some awkward moments visiting family/friends when they go to the bother of doing a lovely roast etc. and you wouldn't touch it. Just my opinion anyway. 13spanner It's difficult at times as vegetarians are a minority and most eat meat. It was tasty especially country style sausages and white pudding but I don't miss them, my diet is boring and basic and sometimes I wonder am I receiving enough nutrients.
Sure we all like animals :rolleyes: not enough of a reason to become a veggie though! I'd never stop eating meat, firstly because it's the tastiest stuff going, and I'd imagine it'd lead to some awkward moments visiting family/friends when they go to the bother of doing a lovely roast etc. and you wouldn't touch it. Just my opinion anyway. 13spanner
Irishchick wrote: » No. I find the majority of vegetarians are stupid. They dont eat meat because they "love animals" but are happy to wear leather and eat products containing gelatin.
Irishchick wrote: If an animal has its needs met during its life and is slaughtered humanley then im happy to eat it.
purity wrote: » It's difficult at times as vegetarians are a minority and most eat meat. It was tasty especially country style sausages and white pudding but I don't miss them, my diet is boring and basic and sometimes I wonder am I receiving enough nutrients.
Priori wrote: » Agree with you on that one. It's when things like the following happen that put me off my meat..
PeakOutput wrote: » Cant find the actual paper right now but with a quick google I was able to find this brief summary although admittedly I have no idea what this website is really about http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/cholesterol_myth_1.html
PeakOutput wrote: » All because of some misguided view of morality This isn't a dress rehearsal, food is one of lifes great pleasures and forcing yourself to have a boring diet is absolutely ridiculous
Darkginger wrote: » Just a thought - what sort of death do you think animals will have if we stop farming and eating them? Is it the method of their death, or the quality of their lives which matters? Just something I've always thought about when considering vegetarianism...
LK_Dave wrote: » I understand that cholesterol plays a very important function in the body and we need to ingest/consume x amount daily to maintain a healthy body and mind. But I'm still not convinced that excess cholesterol is solely down to your genes.
Look at the phenomenon kids who reach obesity in before their teens. Many are the children of perfectly healthy parents who have no family history of cholesterol but the children are reading off the charts.
I only scanned through the linked document, I have stated before I’m not a doctor or a medical professional of any kind so I stand to be corrected, but the references for this article would worry me. Knowledge has moved on a bit since then. References: J W Gofman, et al. The role of lipids and lipoproteins in atherosclerosis . Science. 1950; 111: 166. J P Strong, H C McGill jr. The natural history of coronary atherosclerosis. Am J Pathol. 1962; 40: 37. W F Enos, R H Holmes, J Beyer. Coronary disease among United States soldiers killed in action in Korea. Preliminary report. JAMA 1953; 152: 1090.
purity wrote: » There is no natural predator to kill the farm animals thankfully so they'd die with age
