Bosco boy wrote: » what do you do yourself for a living?
Minstrel27 wrote: » What relevance does that have to do with this?
feelingstressed wrote: » If you're constantly getting overtime you might adapt your lifestyle for it. But overtime is being cut back a lot and some have to readjust As said a few times in the thread there are a lot of gardai who are landlords and they might be in serious trouble with several proporties to manage. With over 10,000 in the force, it's pretty certain there are a least a few in this situation. If it falls apart and they go bankrupt, then they'll be removed and this might wreck their Garda pension too
Bosco boy wrote: » I think other posters occupations are very relevant to the thread, I note the reluctance to answer the question, maybe they fear the level of their hyprocites to be exposed. If your going to attack one occupation at least have the balls to stand over your own and open it up to debate!
Logical Fallacy wrote: » What do you do yourself for a living? Also, when 1% of the work force appears to be having fiscal issues then it's more of an indicator that those particular people have very poor money management skills than anything else, to imply otherwise would be a remarkable reach i think. Lets look at it another way...99% of Gardai in Ireland can live just fine on their current pay levels.
K-9 wrote: » I don't think that's a fair interpretation of it either, 1% basically have nothing after standing orders are paid, nothing to live on, but of course we don't know what they are, could be a second house or high mortgage, 010 car etc, or it could be basic enough. I'm sure more than 1% are just making ends meet or less, like the rest of us.
Bosco boy wrote: » I guess they shouldn't be allowed say anything about the private sector who got us into this mess!
Logical Fallacy wrote: » In fairness, given the numbers involved it's a fair enough assumption to make. If, lets say, 40% of Gardai were having trouble paying their bills then i would think that is a very, very high number and something is obviously amiss in the payscale. But it's not, it's 1%, an effective statistical deviance which would imply the root cause is the spending habits of the Gardai themselves. I think , but don't want to assume or put forth an argument in your name either, that if this was about any other group of society it would be shrug the shoulders and tell them to cut back, move home, drop the SKy and the NTL and tighten the belts. I am unsure why the Gardai expect the country to race to their rescue when there is hardly a person in the country who has not had to make some mild to severe changes to their spending over the last 3 years?
Wolfe Tone wrote: » Gardaí in moany bollocks shocker.
Offy wrote: » To hell with them, they dont serve the public anyway, they gather money for the government with bully boy methods. A leaving cert with 6 months in Templemore? €40k? They are way over paid imo, I know lots of professionals with degrees that dont get paid that much. As to the quality of service we public get for their €40k, its sucks most of the time. I truely hope the IMF slash their pay in half.
bamboozle wrote: » hmmmm.....dont let the facts get in the way of your argument Financial Regulator - public sector Central Bank - public sector Government - public sector Greedy public sector Unions - public sector Banks - private sector property developers - private sector
jagblad wrote: » This is the Garda sergeants and inspectors association (they're talking about their members). They’d be averaging somewhere from 50-70k I’d guess (couldn’t see the current scales anywhere handy.)Incidentally by bills deducted I think they really mean repayments to their very own bad bank, the garda credit union. These are deducted from their salary checks. So while certainly a tough position, their problem is less USC and cuts than spending too much money in previous years. Say they earn 5k a month, you’d normally expect to have close to 3k after all deductions including pension. Where’s the 3k going and why is my heart supposed to bleed. In years gone by many Gardai coming up to retirement beyond the age of 50 felt they needed income from property rental as a means of supplementing what used be a very modest pension. Seemingly this continued (perhaps even worsened) when the salary/pension improved and has left many in trouble. Certainly they're in a poorer position than many to be lecturing us on Seanie Fitz, Neary and co..
Einhard wrote: » What are bills exactly? There was a woman on RTE News last week complaining that she couldn't afford the essentials in life anymore, such as er, her son's swimming lessons.
