castie wrote: » I cant see anything in the laws that you must aim for the posts though. The reason to pick it is thats its guaranteed. The other options you mentioned come with risk.
phog wrote: » In a game in TP I think, ROG indicated that he would kick for the the posts, he then noticed a winger all alone on the wing and realised that a try was on and joked to the ref could he miss hit the kick.
Downtime wrote: » Neil Jenkins once scored for Wales in a similar circumstance. He put the ball down on the ground for a penalty kick. The opposition turned around and walked towards the posts. He tapped and scored.
phog wrote: » As did David Humphreys for Ulster.
DerTierarzt wrote: » Also, is it possible to score a drop goal from behind the posts?
DerTierarzt wrote: » Can one do a drop kick from behind the posts?
DerTierarzt wrote: » Okay, last one. Remember Stephen Jones missing that long range penalty, thus handing Ireland the Grand Slam? What was stopping Paulie giving Donners a leg up onto the posts, and him slapping it away should it have been close enough and potentially going over?
DerTierarzt wrote: » I remember that, he took off his scrum cap, normally his cue that he was going to kick at goal! Anyone have a video of it? Also, is it possible to score a drop goal from behind the posts? And finally, what is stopping someone getting on top of the crossbar and blocking down a penalty or conversion kick?
And finally, what is stopping someone getting on top of the crossbar and blocking down a penalty or conversion kick?
Law 9.A.2 (d) wrote: Any player who touches the ball in an attempt to prevent a penalty goal being scored is illegally touching the ball.Sanction: Penalty kick
Law 21.5 wrote: If the kicker indicates to the referee the intent to kick at goal, the opposing team must stand still with their hands by their sides from the time the kicker starts to approach to kick until the ball is kicked.
DerTierarzt wrote: » No one answered it.
phog wrote: » Why would anyone want to do a drop kick from behind the posts, surely you'd touch it down for a try.
kensutz wrote: » Because it could be seen as against the spirit of good sportsmanship and ping them for it. PK under law 10.4 (m) 10.4 (m) Acts contrary to good sportsmanship. A player must not do anything that is against the spirit of good sportsmanship in the playing enclosure. Sanction: Penalty kick But in all honesty, yes it is a stupid idea and one you would never see happen.
DerTierarzt wrote: » And finally, what is stopping someone getting on top of the crossbar and blocking down a penalty or conversion kick?
castie wrote: » 10.4 should of been used on ashton then.
Shelflife wrote: » For the swan dives ?? surely a pen against him for that would be excessive, and where would you draw the line at try dives?
Shelflife wrote: » For the swan dives ?? surely a pen against him for that would be excessive
daveharnett wrote: » Somebody cited the law wrt penalties. For other types of shot at goal, I think it's an IRB directive rather than law that covers this (it was allowed until ~5 years ago). For the kicks at goal which may be blocked (conversion/dg), they may only be blocked while the ball is still rising. Once it starts dropping, the non-kicking can't interfere with it (with the intention of preventing a score - they may of course catch it/mark it/whatever if it is clearly not going over the bar).
Guy:Incognito wrote: » What about a driven penalty that just about clears the crossbar? It will still be on its way up or at the very least level as it goes over.
castie wrote: » For a penalty you cant interfere with the ball. Law says something along the lines of standing still with your hands by your side.
Guy:Incognito wrote: » Sorry I actually meant to say conversion. typed penalty without even realising Was thinking more about the climbing the posts or lifting someone above the level of the crossbar apect when it's ablockable kick.
Shelflife wrote: » The answer has been given. You must aim for goal if you intention. Penalty against you if you do not under ungentlemanly conduct rules. Please move on. Karlitob as far as im aware you are not the ref of this forum, just because you tell us to move on doesnt make it so. i hope that you dont ref in the same manner. you need to give people/teams some latitude otherwise you will stifle the game/forum. You should know that most of the laws are interperted by the refs and therefore we will get different outcomes. you classify it as ungentlemanly conduct and give a pen. castie sees it differently and gives a scrum or lineout, neither of you right or wrong its down to your individual interpertations and what you feel happened at that time.
DerTierarzt wrote: » "That would be stupid" is not really an answer, nor is "just touch it down for the try". If you were running away with a game, and wanted to showboat, I have yet to hear a compelling argument why one cannot score a drop goal from behind the posts.
karlitob wrote: » I've already answered it. Check your posts.
milosh wrote: » Can a mark be called from a penalty or a drop goal or a re-start? You never see it done.
DerTierarzt wrote: » You gave your opinion, and didn't really back it up. But your input was welcome nonetheless.
