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Bastards, absolute ****ing bastards!

CommuterIE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jHqndf9Kx4

It didn't take that video to show me the abuse suffered... these scumbags call themselves Catholic!! I'm a Catholic, and I hope these ***** rot in hell!

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mikemac

CommuterIE wrote: »

Butchering?

He was thinking of the Shankill Butchers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shankill_Butchers

No butchering in this thread though

Solnskaya

Yeah, but he's called "Keith":D:D Who could take a Keith seriously??? Keith!!!! Apart from Cheggers, the name Keith is reserved for wallies....oh no, chegs was a wally too.Obviously, KeithAFC is waay cool though, its all the other keiths I'm talking about.

Buceph

Solnskaya wrote: »

Yeah, but he's called "Keith":D:D Who could take a Keith seriously??? Keith!!!! Apart from Cheggers, the name Keith is reserved for wallies....oh no, chegs was a wally too.Obviously, KeithAFC is waay cool though, its all the other keiths I'm talking about.

I put it to you that you are incorrect on your Keith based assertions. Consider Keith Earls.

Edit: Might as well abandon this thread anyway. It's ****ed unless a mod intervenes pretty soon. Sorry op.

wmpdd3

This is sticking with me like when Breandan Gleeson had his outburst on the late late in relation to the health service...

THE actor Brendan Gleeson caught the public mood when he railed against the situation in our hospitals on The Late Late Show on St Patrick's night.

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/bravo-to-you-brendan-as-straight-talk-is-the-healthy-way-forward-128169.html
The other bit that sticks out is from the long post above:

Mark 9: 42"And if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck. (NIV)

Could say it better myself. I think the answer to any catholic person denying the suffering these people managed to live through should just be met with Mark '9: 42'

CommuterIE

KeithAFC wrote: »

Can you actually please stay on topic. This serious subject is not about political ideology. So i would like it if you kept that at the door. Lets discuss this.

Nobody wants your input in this thread to be perfectly honest, so go elsewhere... thank this post if you agree people

Standard Toaster

Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. - Steven Weinberg

KeithAFC

I thought he made a very interesting point about the political parties. I still think a lot of work is needed to get the full truth about this. He was fantastic in this video.

Irish Fire

I have posted my intension to defect from the catholic church as of today, I'm lead to believe that I can no longer do this?? Remains to be seen....

Buceph

Irish Fire wrote: »

I have posted my intension to defect from the catholic church as of today, I'm lead to believe that I can no longer do this?? Remains to be seen....

You're five nights too late to do it in any way that would make a difference. The no-religion option in the census is the only real way to indicate your belief. Apart from shouting it in messageboards, but nobody believes what they read on them anyway.

RichieC

Irish Fire wrote: »

I have posted my intension to defect from the catholic church as of today, I'm lead to believe that I can no longer do this?? Remains to be seen....

Apparently they made it next to impossible, our only remaining strategy is to mark no religion (as I did) on the census and strip it of political sway.

RichieC

Buceph wrote: »

You're five nights too late to do it in any way that would make a difference. The no-religion option in the census is the only real way to indicate your belief. Apart from shouting it in messageboards, but nobody believes what they read on them anyway.

regardless, the church still uses your christening as a stat.

Solnskaya

My family is staunch Catholic, but from aged 9, when as a new altar boy, and the parish priest(Fr Dodgy)started to give me a big, lingering hug,(which all the altar boys got, I noticed), I started to ask questions. First question was -"why is Fr dodgy fracking hugging me, and would he ever go and sh1te", that question ended my illustrious career as an altar boy fairly quickly, there must have been easier meat. My second question was "are all these feckers deaf??? He's up there preaching one thing, and we're all down here doing another. WTF??? I stopped going fairly soon after, and my view has not changed.

Buceph

RichieC wrote: »

regardless, the church still uses your christening as a stat.

They can say whatever they like, anyone who looks at their stats with any scientific rigour knows they're bollocks.

RichieC

Buceph wrote: »

They can say whatever they like, anyone who looks at their stats with any scientific rigour knows they're bollocks.

Yea but I would rather there was a way to actually have my name removed from the vatican.

Solnskaya

Buceph wrote: »

They can say whatever they like, anyone who looks at their stats with any scientific rigour knows they're bollockes.

FYP

Standard Toaster

Solnskaya wrote: »

Basically, if you are a practicing Catholic, you have to ask a few small questions.
1. It states in the Bible, should anybody cause suffering to children, they should have a millstone tied around their necks and be cast into the sea. Not really the Churches current practice, is it?
2. "It is harder for a rich man to pass through the eye of a needle than to enter the kingdom of heaven". This is slightly at odds with the ethos of the Vatican Bank.
3."If you seek to follow me, sell your worldly posessions and give the money to the poor". Hmmmm, lots of gold chalices, new cars, big buildings, antiques, land, cash in accounts, not really hitting the ideal there lads, are ye??
4."seek to serve the poor". Probably not by locking the church doors(in case anyone steals the chalices etc) thus excluding the poor who need shelter.
5."Be humble, love thy neighbour". No mention of buggering their kids there, is there?
6."You can not serve two masters, choose God or Mammon"- whats with the Vatican bank, surely it should be emptied and distributed to the poor? Whats that Benedict? Thats crazy??? Well go figure.
7.There is but one God, a jealouse God, you shall have no other". Well, unless you listen to Fr McMoney, who reckons there are 3, despite being told otherwise.
8."To worship your God, go to some private place"(probably not the local sunday fashion parade so) "and without others knowing, simply say the ""Our Father"" - that rules out the whole "singing with the neighbours scenario, in your sunday best, in front of the whole village" thing then, doesn't it.

Really, the Catholic Church is a whole load of sh1te, run by hypocrites who studiously ignore that which they preach. One of my oldest friends is a Cannon Law expert for the Vatican, a Church big hitter, but all of the above escapes him. Sadly, it escapes a lot of others as well. Incidentally, I am a believer, but I believe in God, not a bunch of old hypocrites who make the rules to suit their purses.

Ah yes, the fabulous mythology of talking snakes and magical beings. A book written thousands of years ago by primitive men. A book that advocates senseless murder, opposes homosexuality, slavery and the oppression of women has no place in our society today.

Irish Fire

Buceph wrote: »

You're five nights too late to do it in any way that would make a difference. The no-religion option in the census is the only real way to indicate your belief. Apart from shouting it in messageboards, but nobody believes what they read on them anyway.

I did.....
To be fair I'm not overly concerned what way they count heads etc.... This shower ALL knew what was happening and did nothing!!! Really have to wonder if there is a god!!!

Buceph

RichieC wrote: »

Yea but I would rather there was a way to actually have my name removed from the vatican.

It's just a record of an event that happened. You can't unhappen that event. And those records have been shown to be very useful to historians. And any decent historian 150 years hence will know that just because a church has a record of a baptism doesn't mean that the person practiced that religion later in their life.

KeithAFC

RichieC wrote: »

Yea but I would rather there was a way to actually have my name removed from the vatican.

It does not matter if you reject the church and its rule in general. Although i can sympathise with you regarding the christening.

KeithAFC

Irish Fire wrote: »

I did.....
To be fair I'm not overly concerned what way they count heads etc.... This shower ALL knew what was happening and did nothing!!! Really have to wonder if there is a god!!!

I doubt it very much. Are you turning agnostic?

Solnskaya

Standard Toaster wrote: »

Ah yes, the fabulous mythology of talking snakes and magical beings. A book written thousands of years ago by primitive men. A book that advocates senseless murder, opposes homosexuality, slavery and the oppression of women has no place in our society today.

That post is rubbish. The message of the Bible is "Love your neighbour as yourself and give thanks to God", all the rest is just filler and spin. I'm not a holy joe, but I do try my best to not sh1t on anyone, and yes, I do believe in 1 God.

Standard Toaster

Solnskaya wrote: »

That post is rubbish. The message of the Bible is "Love your neighbour as yourself and give thanks to God", all the rest is just filler and spin. I'm not a holy joe, but I do try my best to not sh1t on anyone, and yes, I do believe in 1 God.

Please.
Just two quick ones, there's so many:

"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."
Luke 19:27

Happy is the one who takes your babies and smashes them against the rocks!
Psalms 137:9

Want more?

Scram

RichieC wrote: »

By jaysus the anger I feel watching this..

Can think of a better reply tbh. im stunned

RichieC

Buceph wrote: »

It's just a record of an event that happened. You can't unhappen that event. And those records have been shown to be very useful to historians. And any decent historian 150 years hence will know that just because a church has a record of a baptism doesn't mean that the person practiced that religion later in their life.

No, it's an active statistic that the church uses. I want the number of catholics in the world to drop. the church made that impossible... and the reasoning is pretty fking obvious.

*points at OP*

galwegians

Irish Fire wrote: »

I have posted my intension to defect from the catholic church as of today, I'm lead to believe that I can no longer do this?? Remains to be seen....

I have allso boycotted the roman catholic religion for the last few yrs, I have had enough of their lies and cover ups, in my opinion the catholic church do not have a clue they are gone so far away from the teachings of the bible, I still regard myself as a christian as i believe in god and i believe in his son jesus christ,

but to me the roman catholic church is a disgrace, and i will be no part of a organisation that protects child abusers,

westendgirlie

Solnskaya wrote: »

That post is rubbish. The message of the Bible is "Love your neighbour as yourself and give thanks to God", all the rest is just filler and spin. I'm not a holy joe, but I do try my best to not sh1t on anyone, and yes, I do believe in 1 God.

Are you not just picking the parts that suit you? If so, doesn't everyone have a right to pick the part of the bible to suit their reasoning and call the rest crap?

Back on topic......a very brave man to publicly detail what was obviously an awful upbringing that he had no control over.

steddyeddy

CommuterIE wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jHqndf9Kx4

It didn't take that video to show me the abuse suffered... these scumbags call themselves Catholic!! I'm a Catholic, and I hope these ***** rot in hell!

The people who did this are scum, the gaurds who covered it up are scum and the people who knew about it and didnt do anything should be ashamed of themselves there is no defense or reason to this.

RichieC

Solnskaya wrote: »

The message of the Bible is "Love your neighbour as yourself and give thanks to God"

No it absolutely is not.

LETHAL LADY

Once again I am sorry to repeat myself but is anyone posting a reply to this from Clonmel or surrounding areas.

Buceph

RichieC wrote: »

No, it's an active statistic that the church uses. I want the number of catholics in the world to drop. the church made that impossible... and the reasoning is pretty fking obvious.

*points at OP*

But you can't get them to do that without forcing them to change their beliefs. They believe that once you have been baptised you are a christian. You can reject God, but that doesn't stop you from falling under the purview of the God they believe in, and that's fundamental to their religion.

But equally, to anyone who does even basic investigation, so much as looking at wikipedia, would realise that the statistics the church use doesn't give accurate numbers of people who adhere to the faith, or practice the religion.