Quiet you wrote: » So everything any western power does is evil and driven by oil in your mind then?
Saila wrote: » no just resources, there are no permanent friends and enemies in world affairs just temporary interests
Chaotic_Forces wrote: » Do you ever stop bitching about militaries?
Quiet you wrote: » Hah, I had the same thought. I knew I recognised the insane, conspiratorial ramblings and had a look. He kept hurling unsubstantiated "facts" at me and others before (possibly you) while he tried to back up his argument as to why everything America does is a war crime.
Chaotic_Forces wrote: » I know him/her, they tend to post something against America/armies, get proven wrong with well thought out, constructive, logical arguments and then vanish and join in when there's a slight mistake they can capitalize on.
Quiet you wrote: » No argument here but to just randomly come out and belittle what's happening in other countries just to make some anti-military, anti-west point is kind of shi**y as far as I'm concerned. If he had made a logical and realistic point like yours I wouldn't have felt the urge to make a comment.
jackiebaron wrote: » Oh, there's a point alright Qy. Now if you think I'm shït-stirring then so be it. On TV tonight I saw a pathetic report about child slavery in no place other than the Ivory Coast. Now, tell me this, why didn't this report come out a year ago and why aren't these reports coming out DAILY regarding child soldiers in Burma, or blubbery American and German men crawling all over Thai and Bangladeshi 13 year-olds or baby soldiers in Guinea Bissau or Fillipina fisher girls being thrown overboard if they lose their strength. All of a sudden, child slavery in Cote d'Ivoire is a mandate and a priority. What about the girls next door in Liberia and north in Mauratania who have their womanhood slashed when they reach 12 or 13? No tanks or bombers or troops to halt that. Child slavery, protection?......don't make me laugh!
Quiet you wrote: » So everything any western power does is evil and driven by oil in your mind then? Iraq was an illegal war fought for what most people can only assume was oil. I don't think anyone will argue that point with you. Afghanistan was legal and sanctioned due to the Taliban harbouring and providing resources to Al-Quieda elements although I have a weird feeling you simply won't accept that. Libya seems to be one of those win, win situations for us. We get to keep recieving oil and help a popular uprising that are looking for nothing more then the right to have a say in how their country is run. As for the numbers of civilians killed, nobody knows exactly because Lybian state television keeps faking casualties. The evil western media considers the vast majority of the evidence shown to them of civilian deaths a joke. There is nothing of worth in the Ivory Coast yet the French and U.N. forces are supporting Ouattara's forces becuase Gbagbo has refused to cede power after losing a democratic election. Leaving Iraq out of it there's nothing evil being carried out by the west. Some self-serving intervention yes but ultimately it's the right thing to do. It's just a shame they don't keep up the good work and go after other, just as deserving, dictators. Edit -- I had a quick look through other posts you've made. Well done. You trolled me good.
jackiebaron wrote: » This woman who was allegedly gang raped. Why is so much attention being hovered on this story....even if it is true? When.....I mean, during the attacks upon Iraq and Afghanistan have there been reports of Iraqi or Afghan men gang raping a woman? If a woman is raped.....and I mean REALLY raped, the last thing she wants to do is to become a public figure. She wants comfort, protection and safety. She wants to retreat back into the bosom of her mother and family. THAT'S why that young girl, Jessica Lynch, avoided the limelight. They tried to spin up a bullshït story of her "firing her weapon, till it clicked empty". She came out and said that it was a hoax and that she fell unconscious and woke up in an Iraqi hospital after a fücking crash. The whole thing was staged, she didn't like it and now nobody even remembers her.....even though they all had fridge stickers of her not long ago. If this woman has been raped, then it's a disgrace. But rape is a criminal offence, not an act that warrants military intervention. A rape occurs in the United States every 13 minutes. Where are the tanks and bombers there? Don't try to tug on our heart strings with shït that you ignore elsewhere. A woman is raped? We must help!!! Women in Saudi Arabia aren't even allowed to leave the house or drive a car to buy eggs....but that's fine, right? F.O.
Chaotic_Forces wrote: » So why don't you physically go to these places and change them for the better?
jackiebaron wrote: » That was good.
jackiebaron wrote: » If a woman is raped.....and I mean REALLY raped
jackiebaron wrote: » I just heard a "dildo" squeaking about how Ghadaffi should be brought before to ICC. ...that's the International Criminal Court. The "dildo" was American. America doesn't recognise the ICC. < fücking speechless ...through pure flabbergastedness >
jackiebaron wrote: » The propaganda machine is whirring as we speak. The heart-tug for Iraq was "helping these people" even though over a million of them have been whacked. The heart-tug for Afghanistan was "girls can't go to school. Women have to wear a burkha". The heart-tug for Libya was/is that a brutal dictator is offing his own people (even though intervention has capped just as many). NOW The heart-tug for the Ivory Coast is child slavery.....just effing saw it on the telly. "We must move into Cote d'Ivoire to save the kids who are picking cocoa beans, hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Chairman Meow wrote: » What the **** is wrong with you?
Quiet you wrote: » So everything any western power does is evil and driven by oil in your mind then? Iraq was an illegal war fought for what most people can only assume was oil. I don't think anyone will argue that point with you.Afghanistan was legal and sanctioned due to the Taliban harbouring and providing resources to Al-Quieda elements although I have a weird feeling you simply won't accept that. Libya seems to be one of those win, win situations for us. We get to keep recieving oil and help a popular uprising that are looking for nothing more then the right to have a say in how their country is run. As for the numbers of civilians killed, nobody knows exactly because Lybian state television keeps faking casualties. The evil western media considers the vast majority of the evidence shown to them of civilian deaths a joke. There is nothing of worth in the Ivory Coast yet the French and U.N. forces are supporting Ouattara's forces becuase Gbagbo has refused to cede power after losing a democratic election. Leaving Iraq out of it there's nothing evil being carried out by the west. Some self-serving intervention yes but ultimately it's the right thing to do. It's just a shame they don't keep up the good work and go after other, just as deserving, dictators. Edit -- I had a quick look through other posts you've made. Well done. You trolled me good.
Canis Lupus wrote: » Ah, I've been giggling at that line for a minute now.
orourkeda wrote: » Is Afghanistan the only nation on earth that helps to resource Al-Qaeda
WoollyRedHat wrote: » Afghanistan has been an out an out mess, as has been Iraq. Beyond the invasion of countries that have been carried out without careful planning, the use of force in such countries in the past has been questionable, to use the term lightly, with some of the reports in Iraq for example really questioning the countries of such invasions right or authority to intervene. Reported use of phoshorus for example is abhorrent and has no place in this world and is sickeing to it's core. These weapons harm and destruct the very lives they so purport to protect. And it's cynical to use economical factors as any justification for invasion, it shouldn't come into it ever, either primary or secondary reasons for an intervention.
