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Euro Lotto Ticket Conundrum

Plazaman

So a €500,000 Euromillions Tickets turns up in Tesco. They say a punter asked for a €4 quickpick, a €9 quickpick was issued by mistake and the punter didn't want it so the issued correct ticket and held on to the "mistake" which subsequently won half a mill.

Todays paper carries story of checkout girl who said ticket was hers as she
(a) Pressed the €9 button by mistake
(b) Did not issue it to customer but gave out the €4 instead
(c) Was going to pay for it the next day but then wasn't allowed.

She is now suing Tesco.

WTF? Am I not right in saying you don't own a lotto ticket unless you pay for it?

Is it a case of an ordinary worker being done out of €500,000 by corporate giant Tesco? OR Take a run and jump ya chancer?

Could have put this in Legal Discussions but wanted a chance for people to finger point, sympathise, enjoy the schadenfraude etc etc

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patnor1011

She will not get anything. She was about to pay for ticket only when she found that ticket is winning one. That is not chancing. Intended outright thievery. :mad:

mikemac

LighterGuy wrote: »

but ... hey, there has been alot of shady lotto cases over the last few years. Guys who were in lotto syndicates in jobs but not paying subs for up to a year previous but still going to court to claim a share and winning.

That case was a disgrace, it was maybe five years ago now

Five men in a syndicate.
One stopped paying and was repeatedly asked to pay up. After a few months he was approached in the pub for the umpteen time and asked for money and he said "**** off with your syndicate".

A while later, the Lotto syndicate won 2 million as I remember.
Cool, four paid up members get 500k you'd think

No, no, no. Contract law checked, a solicitor hired and the non paying member took the rest to court for his share.
Lower then low that chap! :mad:

El Horseboxo

feelingstressed wrote: »

That case was a disgrace, it was maybe five years ago now

Five men in a syndicate.
One stopped paying and was repeatedly asked to pay up. After a few months he was approached in the pub for the umpteen time and asked for money and he said "**** off with your syndicate".

A while later, the Lotto syndicate won 2 million as I remember.
Cool, four paid up members get 500k you'd think

No, no, no. Contract law checked, a solicitor hired and the non paying member took the rest to court for his share.
Lower then low that chap! :mad:

A portion of my winnings would have went towards a hit man in that case.

Be||e

feelingstressed wrote: »

That case was a disgrace, it was maybe five years ago now

Five men in a syndicate.
One stopped paying and was repeatedly asked to pay up. After a few months he was approached in the pub for the umpteen time and asked for money and he said "**** off with your syndicate".

A while later, the Lotto syndicate won 2 million as I remember.
Cool, four paid up members get 500k you'd think

No, no, no. Contract law checked, a solicitor hired and the non paying member took the rest to court for his share.
Lower then low that chap! :mad:

That ruling was overturned on appeal to the Supreme Court.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/1215/horanm.html

Biggins

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/tesco-cashier-at-centre-of-euro500000-lotto-ticket-dispute-not-at-work-2612605.html

Indo's write up today.

Chairman Meow

id hit it

SeaFields

Most retail workplaces have guidelines on setting aside goods for purchase later. It's not allowed so if thats in her terms and conditions of employment she doesnt have a leg to stand on.

sbsquarepants

Shane_ef wrote: »

A store a friend of mine worked in had the procedure that any unpaid tickets "mistakes" were store property and your till was shown as being short by whatever amount the ticket was for, after the drawn you were given the chance to pay for the ticket and level up your till, they also said any winnings from "mistakes" would be given to charity... a real guilt trip if the ticket won and you tried to claim it. --Boss "so what your saying is you want to deny a charity money".....

Anyway - Chancer- is my opinion

Why did they wait till after the draw? Isn't that just inviting this kind of thing to happen? Who would want to pay for a loosing ticket?

feelingstressed wrote: »

That case was a disgrace, it was maybe five years ago now

Five men in a syndicate.
One stopped paying and was repeatedly asked to pay up. After a few months he was approached in the pub for the umpteen time and asked for money and he said "**** off with your syndicate".

A while later, the Lotto syndicate won 2 million as I remember.
Cool, four paid up members get 500k you'd think

No, no, no. Contract law checked, a solicitor hired and the non paying member took the rest to court for his share.
Lower then low that chap! :mad:

Money brings out the worst in people, always has and always will. Some people are consumed by it, family, friends all thrown to one side if the price is right. It's disgusting really.

Minstrel27

Shane_ef wrote: »

Boss "so what your saying is you want to deny a charity money".....

Oh noes

MagicSean

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Why did they wait till after the draw? Isn't that just inviting this kind of thing to happen? Who would want to pay for a loosing ticket?

Money brings out the worst in people, always has and always will. Some people are consumed by it, family, friends all thrown to one side if the price is right. It's disgusting really.

Where I worked it was after the draw closed which is usually about 15 minutes before the actual draw.

languagenerd

From that article ^^:

Ms O'Reilly said she intended to later buy it for herself if no one else requested a €9 ticket that night. When nobody did, Ms O'Reilly says she tried to buy it, but claims she was given no option to do so.

But then later in the same article:

She said she marked the ticket with a sad smiley face and stuck it to her till, before returning the following morning to pay for it, but was not given permission to do so.

Then she never owned it, never bought it and had no rights to it whatsoever! The first quote makes it sound as if she tried to buy it that night, which she didn't... She went back after it won. :rolleyes:
And anyway, the shop had no legal obligation to sell it to her - they have no legal obligation to sell anything to anyone!

FFS. Ruining her own reputation for nothing. Nowhere's gonna want to hire her from now on...

OutlawPete

FearDark wrote: »

Chancer.

Most likely but I say: Good luck to her! Hope she gets it.

Victimless white lie, if in fact she is lying.

Tax, schmax.

mikemac

Complete chancer

At the same time I don't like the idea of Tesco getting the money. Sure it may go to charity but they'll probably siphon off a bit for administration.
And do Tesco Ireland exclusively support Irish charities? That 500k might go back to HQ in the UK

Just do a rollover and add it to the next lotto jackpot.

Liam Byrne

Chancer.

Not only that, but a chancer who issues wrong tickets, therefore also somewhat incompetent.

OutlawPete wrote: »

Victimless white lie

Would you say that if you were the next winner - i.e. if the €500,000 that she's trying to claim would otherwise have rolled over into your jackpot ?

Minstrel27

I hope she enjoys the dole.

UglyBolloxFace

Chairman Meow wrote: »

id hit it

As would I. She's not too bad. I wonder does the carpet match the pubes?

NinjaTruncs

It will be interesting what comes out in court with this one. If Tesco in the past have forced employees to buy a misprint them it'll be a pretty quick case with the employee getting the ticket, if they don’t Tesco will get ownership as the ticket was never paid for. Just to note quickpicks done without a slip cannot be cancelled so someone has to buy it and employers are reluctant to do that as it becomes costly.

Where i worked the employee would have to buy it, usually it would be put into the machine until someone else asked for a similar quickpick, if no one did the employee would buy it, or sometimes all staff on that shift would pool in and buy it.

IT could be a case where the employee didn't have money to buy the ticket so expected to pay the next day, also the employee may not have known the ticket was a winner, i doubt she memorised the numbers.

And i wouldn't trust Tesco with donating the money to charity, I'm not saying they won't donate it but i think they will claim it's from their funds making themselves look more generous.

NinjaTruncs

UglyBolloxFace wrote: »

As would I. She's not too bad. I wonder does the carpet match the pubes?

carpet = pubes.

I think you mean "do the curtains match the carpet".

TheInquisitor

Sure its a great Coup for Tesco even if they donate it to charity they can claim all of that money off their taxes! Win win situation!

tauruz_ie

If it wasn't a winning ticket would she still be taking them to court because she was not allowed buy it i wonder?

ArmaniJeanss

Splitting it equally between the 50 or 60 staff in the shop would seem better than giving it to charity.

Penn

NinjaTruncs wrote: »

carpet = pubes.

I think you mean "do the curtains match the carpet".

It's a quote from Forgetting Sarah Marshall.

Penn

As for the ticket, intent to purchase does not equal ownership. She didn't even sign her name on it, she put a sad smiley face on it. She should be fined €500,000 for stupidity.

Bruthal

tauruz_ie wrote: »

If it wasn't a winning ticket would she still be taking them to court because she was not allowed buy it i wonder?

The thing is though, it is a winning ticket.

walshb

Plazaman wrote: »

So a €500,000 Euromillions Tickets turns up in Tesco. They say a punter asked for a €4 quickpick, a €9 quickpick was issued by mistake and the punter didn't want it so the issued correct ticket and held on to the "mistake" which subsequently won half a mill.

Todays paper carries story of checkout girl who said ticket was hers as she
(a) Pressed the €9 button by mistake
(b) Did not issue it to customer but gave out the €4 instead
(c) Was going to pay for it the next day but then wasn't allowed.

She is now suing Tesco.

WTF? Am I not right in saying you don't own a lotto ticket unless you pay for it?

Is it a case of an ordinary worker being done out of €500,000 by corporate giant Tesco? OR Take a run and jump ya chancer?

Could have put this in Legal Discussions but wanted a chance for people to finger point, sympathise, enjoy the schadenfraude etc etc

She's a chancer; but hey, Irish courts love chancers, so best of bloody luck to her.

Bruthal

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Splitting it equally between the 50 or 60 staff in the shop would seem better than giving it to charity.

That is the best thing to do with it alright, assuming tesco dont require staff members to pay for wrongly printed tickets. If they did normally require this, then she should have it.

The giving it to charity is purely to look good, nothing more with them.

Bruthal

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Would you say that if you were the next winner - i.e. if the €500,000 that she's trying to claim would otherwise have rolled over into your jackpot ?

How would it? Who ever gets the ticket, the 500k was still won, no rolling over anyway whether she gets it or not. And was it not a lotto plus win? They dont roll over if it was, or do they? Its that long since i bought a ticket now im not sure myself.

Ste.phen

Barrington wrote: »

As for the ticket, intent to purchase does not equal ownership. She didn't even sign her name on it, she put a sad smiley face on it. She should be fined €500,000 for stupidity.

In a roundabout way, she was

heyheyhey1982

The way i look on it- she made a balls of it. SAd smiley face = ownership... Get the fup out of it!

She realised her mistake when the ticket won. I wonder the next day when the ticket had lost would she be putting 9euro into the till- more than likely no. There will be more to come out in court, where there are a few questions still to be answered. it looks as though she i chancing her arm. She will do her best to make it look as if she was gonna pay the next day. From the look of it she doesnt have a solid enough case. It seems money has to be exchanged before a transaction is complete. She only tried to buy the ticket after it was known to have won (i read this somewhere). If she had left with the ticket without paying she'd of been stealing- she left the ticket there. Its one for the courts to sort out.

IMO she fuked up and is trying to back track.

If she'd of been smart she could of got away with it.

Kidchameleon

LighterGuy wrote: »

The way I see it:

- Stupid bad luck on the person who refused the 9euro ticket. What can they do, they never accepted/paid for the ticket.

Nobody is mentioning the fact that the original punter may have not had 9 euro on them! Also, nobody is mentioning the fact that the Tesco worker is kind of hot!