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"Trigger" McAteer getting decked by Stephen Cluxton at charity soccer game in Santry

bobbysands81

yesterday!

Fantastic photo of Cluxton about to make contact with McAteers face. Apparently McAteer was winding him up the whole game and Cluxton snapped and decked him!

Unfortunately don't have the photo but it's a classic that will be around for years to come!

I'd say Roy Keane will chuckle when he sees this!

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keane2097

Samba wrote: »

Drawing a comparison between verbal abuse and physical assault and questioning which one is worse?

Clearly you're failing to understand the responsibility professional athletes have and why, think about it for a moment before your next reply.

By your logic, it's not o.k to floor someone in everyday society, but it's o.k so long as it's on a field and a sport is being played?

That's twisted.

He's an amateur.

As for the part in bold, the answer is not necessarily, but sometimes.

keane2097

gustavo wrote: »

Presumably then you're not a "soccer" fan and find yourself above such pursuits?

I'm not exclusively into soccer, as most of the people whose hearts are bleeding over this seem to be.

stumpypeeps

There is some serious animosity towards the GAA from a whole section of posters on this forum. As one of the things that define us as a nation I find that a little sad. It should be embraced.

As for the pair of ****wits in Santry? Both of them should know better.

stovelid

stumpypeeps wrote: »

As one of the things that define us as a nation I find that a little sad.

There are a lot of things that supposedly "define us a nation" that don't actually define a lot of us as a nation.

Pro. F

I'm not against the odd punch being thrown in competitive football, as long as it doesn't dominate the sport, but getting into a fight at a charity event is not on. They both acted like tools of the highest order from what I can tell.

Pauleta

Pair of clowns. Of course those GAA players are hard men ya know. Hard men until the Aussies turn up and beat the crap out of them so badly they had to change the rules :pac:

Also it goes to show what a rag the herald is. 2 former sports people have a fight in a charity game as a headline story. Whilst just beside it is a tiny article about a Garda getting stabbed in the face. Priorities?????

Essien

keane2097 wrote: »

As for the part in bold, the answer is not necessarily, but sometimes.

If anything, I'd say punching somebody during a game should be LESS acceptable than punching them in every day society.

If I'm walking home after being in the pub and some clown hits me a shoulder and calls we a wanker, I'd feel far more justified in decking him there than if he did that to me during a match.

That's where I do sympatise with some of the "typical bogball" posters in this thread. In GAA, being a tramp is not only acceptable, its usually encouraged.

keane2097

Essien wrote: »

If anything, I'd say punching somebody during a game should be LESS acceptable than punching them in every day society.

If I'm walking home after being in the pub and some clown hits me a shoulder and calls we a wanker, I'd feel far more justified in decking him there than if he did that to me during a match.

That's where I do sympatise with some of the "typical bogball" posters in this thread. In GAA, being a tramp is not only acceptable, its usually encouraged.

I find that bizarre tbh.

eigrod

keane2097 wrote: »

That's an exceptionally ignorant statement, particularly on an island where bigotry and sectarianism is an absolute scourge on the game of soccer.

ably demonstrated by NI fans after the recent game v Scotland in Landsdowne Road and which I'd be pretty sure will repeat itself in the ROI v NI game in May. I actually doubt very much I'll take my 2 kids to that game for that very reason.

OhNoYouDidn't

stumpypeeps wrote: »

Are you ashamed to be Irish because of GAA?

I don't want to speak for him, but I doubt he is.

And he certainly isn't less Irish for not being a fan of the agri sports.

Rowley Birkin QC

That picture has made my week to be honest. Gave up watching soccer a while back due to the absolutely ridiculous amount of dramatic rolling around the ground a huge number of the players engage in for no reason at all. It makes the game unwatchable for me.

While it's a pity it happened in a charity game to see one of them laid out in such a fashion when he was probably expecting the typical chest out shouty handbags that goes on in premiership games is most definitely worthy of a tongue in cheek laugh.

Great shot too Paul.

keane2097

How many times more heinous is it when it's a fist instead of a foot, and when it's not being cleverly disguised?

TheBigLebowski

stumpypeeps wrote: »

There is some serious animosity towards the GAA from a whole section of posters on this forum. As one of the things that define us as a nation I find that a little sad. It should be embraced.

The GAA only only defines some of the worst aspects of this nation and belongs to a bygone era. The smallmindedness of the GAA serves as a reminder of how backward this country once was. Rule 42 hasn't gone away you know...

stumpypeeps

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

I don't want to speak for him, but I doubt he is.

And he certainly isn't less Irish for not being a fan of the agri sports.

Have you ever played, been to or watched a GAA match of either code? Just out of curiosity? I'd love to know where this hatred comes from. Its only a game you know.

Essien

keane2097 wrote: »

I find that bizarre tbh.

I'm not surprised, yours is a very common opinion, but like another poster said, why should one be any more acceptable than the other? FTR, I'm not saying either is ok.

The way I see it, sport is sport, ultimately it's only a game. If somebody shows you the same level of disrespect in your every day life why aren't you at least equally justified to respond similarly?

My point is, this kind of thing is praised in GAA but it would be condemned in other sports.

stovelid

stumpypeeps wrote: »

Are you ashamed to be Irish because of GAA?

I mean more that being Irish shouldn't mean blind respect - or avoidance of criticism of - for the GAA or any other cultural aspect of Ireland.

super_furry

stumpypeeps wrote: »

Have you ever played, been to or watched a GAA match of either code? Just out of curiosity? I'd love to know where this hatred comes from. Its only a game you know.

And yet there's no shortage of people lining up to tell us it's what defines Ireland a country, and that you can't possibly be Irish and dislike the GAA.

Het-Field

keane2097 wrote: »

How many times more heinous is it when it's a fist instead of a foot, and when it's not being cleverly disguised?

I would advise you to dig out the YouTube video of the game.

If you take a look at the Macedonian player closest to the incident, you will notice that he is wearing the number 3 shirt. He is not the player that Triggs launches shimself into. The edited footage fails to show why Number 3 became so irate. His gripe aginst McAteer is fully evidenced in the you tube video, and suffice to say, it has nothing to do with Triggs' "kung fu fighting".

Sir Gallagher

Tallaght Saint wrote: »

How is this worse than Roy Keane going out to purposely injure Haaland them years ago? I say fair play to Cluxton.

Who said it was worse? Everyone condemned Keane for doing that bar the obvious simpletons. From the tone of your post it would seem you think Keane was wrong also, so why would you say "fair play to Cluxton". Odd logic.

reprazant

super_furry wrote: »

And yet there's no shortage of people lining up to tell us it's what defines Ireland a country, and that you can't possibly be Irish and dislike the GAA.

And there is the same amount of people lining up to say that it is all that is wrong with this country.

stumpypeeps

TheBigLebowski wrote: »

The GAA only only defines some of the worst aspects of this nation and belongs to a bygone era. The smallmindedness of the GAA serves as a reminder of how backward this country once was. Rule 42 hasn't gone away you know...

What are the positive things that define us as a nation nowadays?

keane2097

Essien wrote: »

I'm not surprised, yours is a very common opinion, but like another poster said, why should one be any more acceptable than the other? FTR, I'm not saying either is ok.

The way I see it, sport is sport, ultimately it's only a game. If somebody shows you the same level of disrespect in your every day life why aren't you at least equally justified to respond similarly?

My point is, this kind of thing is praised in GAA but it would be condemned in other sports.

Well, in both scenarios you've mentioned you'd be within your rights.

Claiming that GAA is the only sport that values people being aggressive and occasionally smacking someone upside da face is pretty way off as well.

Rowley Birkin QC

TheBigLebowski wrote: »

The GAA only only defines some of the worst aspects of this nation and belongs to a bygone era. The smallmindedness of the GAA serves as a reminder of how backward this country once was. Rule 42 hasn't gone away you know...

England v. Ireland at Croke Park in a rugby match with the anthems and teams respected to the hilt ringing any bells?

Also saw in the paper that the Queen is due to visit Croker too.

The community based setup of the GAA is also helping to integrate and bring together in a real sense lots of the different cultures and races that now populate this country.

bobbysands81

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

I don't want to speak for him, but I doubt he is.

And he certainly isn't less Irish for not being a fan of the agri sports.

Your faux outrage is hilarious mate!!!

I wonder would your opinion of this incident be different if a GAA player was not involved. I think we both know the answer to that...

stovelid

thegen wrote: »

Stovelid, I was joking.
.

I was also being light-hearted. I don't like the idea of "soccer" becoming a non-contact sport these days and also understand that players throw a dig every now and then but the (paradoxical) categorization of soccer by GAA supporters is confusing: on one hand, soccer is a nancy boy sport and the GAA is full of real hard men; yet on the other hand, soccer is supposedly followed - rank and file - by hooligans and the GAA is packed with law-abiding sorts that never attack anybody at games and hate violence.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Ya'd swear he fcukin stabbed him or something.
McAteer was acting the prick and got a clout for his troubles, nothing to get worked up about.
Shouldn't have happened during a charity game, but Cluxton is a hot head.

People saying that GAA players are thugs and that footballers are pansies need to grow up.

super_furry

Rowley Birkin QC wrote: »

England v. Ireland at Croke Park in a rugby match with the anthems and teams respected to the hilt ringing any bells?

You can't seriously try to take credit for that.

stumpypeeps

super_furry wrote: »

And yet there's no shortage of people lining up to tell us it's what defines Ireland a country, and that you can't possibly be Irish and dislike the GAA.

I'm not the biggest fan of Horse racing. Doesn't mean I don't take some pride in our ability to produce world class horses. I got a great kick out of Cheltenham this year. Some Irish pride restored after all the problems we're currently having fiscally.

keane2097

Het-Field wrote: »

I would advise you to dig out the YouTube video of the game.

If you take a look at the Macedonian player closest to the incident, you will notice that he is wearing the number 3 shirt. He is not the player that Triggs launches shimself into. The edited footage fails to show why Number 3 became so irate. His gripe aginst McAteer is fully evidenced in the you tube video, and suffice to say, it has nothing to do with Trigg's "kung fu fighting".

What?

I'm merely pointing out a much worse incident by a chavball player (if we're using colloquial names we might as well do it for both).

The difference is Cluxton didn't try to disguise his action, he was probably provoked more and his wasn't exactly life-threatening.

thegen

stovelid wrote: »

I was also being light-hearted. I don't like the idea of "soccer" becoming a non-contact sport these days and also understand that players throw a dig every now and then but the (paradoxical) categorization of soccer by GAA supporters is confusing: on one hand, soccer is a nancy boy sport and the GAA is full of real hard men; yet on the other hand, soccer is supposedly followed - rank and file - by hooligans and the GAA is packed with law-abiding sorts that never attack anybody at games and hate violence.

Agree, there's arseholes involved in both sports as is evidence from some of the posting on here today.