ilovesleep wrote: » How corrupt was haughey? How corrupt was lowry? How does it tie in here with this tribunal. I think i need a history lesson on irish politics.
Ilovesleep wrote: » Can somebody please teach me something. What happened? Heard of Lowry. What did he do? What is it all about?
bryanjf wrote: » I keep thinking this says "The minority report"
Cheap Thrills! wrote: » I have a few questions on this (looked in Politics, cant see a topic) 1, How much did this sh!t cost 2, What is the point of it now 14 years later So the second mobile phone licence granted in Ireland was bogus. Does the cost of the tribunal justify this apparently irreversible fact.... ? :mad:
Happyman42 wrote: » .
Biggins wrote: » They allowed (WANTED TO) have this drag on as long as possible I suspect do they anyone involved with FF and any of their mates, could get away with as much as possible. Of that I have NO doubt whatsoever!
Blobby George wrote: » You haven't a clue what you're talking about.
Biggins wrote: » Lol Go away troll. Yes, I know nothing about Fianna Fali. Not a clue.
Blobby George wrote: » Good lad. Someone refutes your point and you call troll. The classic shallow argument response. Carry on your crusade there and stock up on the tinfoil hats.
Biggins wrote: » At least I bother my arse to do my research, protest against them, set-up a website, tackle them on Radio, TV and the nations press - and all as you would do, is have everyone here think, I do it as a person that don't have a clue! I think we know know who's talking out of their arse. Keep talking please, your doing so well.
Blobby George wrote: » Are you from Arkansaw? Anyway have you read the full report and have you followed the story closely or is this just another swipe at FF. Further, Lowry is an ex FG man, so what's your point exactly?
Biggins wrote: » Well ask the next FF rep you dump into. They allowed (WANTED TO) have this drag on as long as possible I suspect do they anyone involved with FF and any of their mates, could get away with as much as possible. Of that I have NO doubt whatsoever!
Biggins wrote: » Well if you bothered to do your research, the limitation of what could be investigated were set down and structured so that the tribunal could only go where FF wanted them to go (reluctantly even then...). even then when things got to close to home, they drew the investigations even in closer and tighten their limit areas of investigation. ...But hey, I bothered my arse to not just read the official state documents but other materials, reports, historical records and books written that, if one bothered also their arse, are easily available at your nearest Easons alone! ...Too much like hard work?
Cheap Thrills! wrote: » Do you know it actually crossed my mind that FF might be behind the timing of this. Pretty fortuitous isn't it! A nice little ticking time bomb which detonates right as FG get inton power. Business as usual in Irish politics....it fcuking stinks to high heaven.
Dempsey wrote: » ...Why dont you focus on the outcome of the investigation rather than trying to turn this into a Fianna Fail bashing exercise?
Cheap Thrills! wrote: » Do you know it actually crossed my mind that FF might be behind the timing of this. Pretty fortuitous isn't it! A nice little ticking time bomb which detonates right as FG get inton power.
Blobby George wrote: » Further, Lowry is an ex FG man, so what's your point exactly?
Cheap Thrills! wrote: » I want to know if this issue was of importance how the fcuk did it take 14 years and millions of taxpayers money to investigate?
thebaz wrote: » because the longer it lasted , the more money the legal teams investigating, can cream of the state - they are literally a law onto themselves. I want a tribunal into how much certain privileged barristers , made from these worthless tribunals ...
Biggins wrote: » The answer to that is simple. UNLESS we concentrate now on the methods that were used and ALLOWED to be used, how they were limited and by whom and why - this same schite will happen again and again... ...And guess what, the corrupt will get away with their mis-deeds. For there is no real deterrent that they can see so far to persuade them not to do what they do... All this has happened before - so will it happen again. So say we all!
Desmond wrote: The Tribunal because of the length of time it has taken, and the cost of its investigations, has now a vested interest in achieving a 'result' At over 1500 pages the Moriarty Report is the most lengthy and expensive comic ever produced. The legislation has now been changed to provide for a better means of enquiry into issues of public concern and this is not before time. For my part I have issued High Court proceedings against the Tribunal because of the manner in which it has handled issues directly affecting me, albeit that I was not under investigation by the Tribunal. I make these observations so lessons may be learnt for the future as to how tribunals are organised and made accountable.