strokemyclover wrote: » Yes
jimcoolding wrote: » Only because we have a strange sense of entitlement.
NeedaNewName wrote: » Don't know about us but switch from English to polish on this site...http://www.umlub.pl/index2.html :eek:
Mousey- wrote: » england has had a relitivley multicultured society for centuries (former colonies etc... ),
Amhran Nua wrote: » No it didn't, they only started letting them in in the 40s and had race riots by the 50s, continuing to this very day. Irish people generally are about as far from xenophobic as you're likely to find in my experience, there are the odd few but you'll get that anywhere. Proportional migration: if the entire population of Poland had upped sticks and left the country a vacant lot, moving to the USA, over a two year period, you'd have the equivalent immigration experienced by Ireland, and not a peep of a right wing group in sight, unlike most of our European neighbours.
londonbus wrote: » Apart from the problems in Oldham what are you talking about? The riots in England in the early 1980s weren't race riots. They were young people vs police. Equal opportunity riots. Sheesh...
1958: Violence breaks out in Notting Hill Gate, west London, sparked by a domestic incident between a black man and his white girlfriend. TV crews are accused of encouraging riots by staging reconstructions in the streets 1981: More than 300 people are injured, including 200 police officers, as crowds hurl petrol bombs in Brixton, south London. The two-day clash causes £6.5m damage. Later in the year there is another riot in Brixton, as well as in Manchester, Southall and Toxteth, Liverpool, where a man is killed 1985: Trouble flares up again in Handsworth, Birmingham. Rioting leaves two people dead and dozens of buildings gutted by firebombs. More violence breaks out when a black woman, Cherry Groce, is mistakenly shot by police who burst into her home looking for her son in connection with an armed robbery. More than 50 cars are set alight and two shops gutted 1985: Broadwater Farm. PC Keith Blakelock is hacked to death with knives and machetes 1995: A policeman is almost kicked to death after being pulled off his motorcycle during a second riot in Brixton 1995: Three nights of fighting causes more than £1m worth of damage after gangs of Asian youths run amok in Manningham, Bradford 1998: A group of 100 youths throw bottles, cans and stones at policeas the five suspects of the racist murder of teenager Stephen Lawrence arrive at the inquiry
Toxteth, Brixton, and Handsworth were the scenes of violent race riots that summer, leading Raymond Seitz, the then US ambassador, to write to Washington: "Dickens described the squalor, overcrowding and poverty in Britain's cities over a century ago. "What has changed is that the people affected are increasingly likely to be members of minority groups." The Guardian newspaper reported that Seitz added that Britain was unprepared for dealing with the impact of immigration and looked on "complacently" while America dealt with similar riots in the 1960s. "The one acerbic exception came in 1968 when Enoch Powell, a Conservative MP, made a notorious speech in which he predicted 'rivers of blood' in the streets if the tide of Asian and African immigrants was not stemmed," Seitz wrote. "However crudely and unacceptably to most of his audience, he had put his finger on a problem: Britain appears unprepared to deal with the profound change in the complexion of its society. "There are only 1 million blacks and browns in Britain, out of a population of 54 million, and by now half of these are British born. But their outsider status persists." He added: "Reporting of the recent race riots has reflected the rabble-rousing racism which is still easy discourse in modern Britain. "Tabloids describe the 'Zulu-style war cries' of the rioters and recycle the comments of whites calling them 'barbarians' and 'animals'. "We are likely to see more rioting ahead. While the onset of winter may inhibit street violence, spring cannot be far behind." The disclosure was included in one of more than 250,000 US embassy documents leaked to several media outlets including The Guardian, New York Times and Der Spiegel.
Modern Britain There were race riots across the United Kingdom in 1919: South Shields, Glasgow, London's East End, Liverpool, Cardiff, Barry, and Newport. There were further riots by immigrant and minority populations in East London during the 1930s and Notting Hill in the 1950s. In the early 1980s, societal racism, discrimination and poverty — alongside further perceptions of powerlessness and oppressive policing — sparked a series of riots in areas with substantial African-Caribbean populations. These riots took place in St Pauls in 1980, Brixton, Toxteth and Moss Side in 1981, St Pauls again in 1982, Notting Hill Gate in 1982, Toxteth in 1982, and Handsworth, Brixton and Tottenham in 1985. The report identified both "racial discrimination" and a "racial disadvantage" in Britain, concluding that urgent action was needed to prevent these issues becoming an "endemic, ineradicable disease threatening the very survival of our society". The era saw an increase in attacks on Black people by White people. The Joint Campaign Against Racism committee reported that there had been more than 20,000 attacks on non- Indigenous Britons including Britons of Asian origin during 1985. The British Crime Survey reveals that in 2004, 87,000 people from black or minority ethnic communities said they had been a victim of a racially motivated crime. They had suffered 49,000 violent attacks, with 4,000 being wounded. At the same time 92,000 white people said they had also fallen victim of a racially motivated crime. The number of violent attacks against whites reached 77,000, while the number of white people who reported being wounded was five times the number of black and minority ethnic victims at 20,000. Most of the offenders (57%) in the racially motivated crimes identified in the British Crime Survey are not white. White victims said 82% of offenders were not white. Racism in one form or another was widespread in Britain before the twentieth century, and during the 1900s particularly towards Jewish groups and immigrants from Eastern Europe. The British establishment even considered Irish people a separate and degenerate race until well into the 19th century. Since World War I, public expressions of racism have been limited to far-right political parties such as the British National Front in the 1970s, whilst most mainstream politicians have publicly condemned all forms of racism. However, anecdotal evidence suggests that racism remains widespread, and some politicians and public figures have been accused of excusing or pandering to racist attitudes in the media, particularly with regard to immigration. There have been growing concerns in recent years about institutional racism in public and private bodies, and the tacit support this gives to crimes resulting from racism, such as the murder of Stephen Lawrence, Gavin Hopley and Ross Parker. The Race Relations Act 1965 outlawed public discrimination, and established the Race Relations Board. Further Acts in 1968 and 1976 outlawed discrimination in employment, housing and social services, and replaced the Race Relations Board with Commission for Racial Equality. The Human Rights Act 1999 made organisations in Britain, including public authorities, subject to the European Convention on Human Rights. The Race Relations Act 2000 extends existing legislation for the public sector to the police force, and requires public authorities to promote equality. Although various anti-discrimination legislation do exist. According to some sources most employers in the UK remain institutionally racist including public bodies such as the police and particularly the legal profession. It is also nearly impossible for persons subject to such institutional racism (who are normally economically disadvantaged) to seek legal redress, as in the UK public funding (legal aid) is not available at employment tribunals. The situation with the implementation of Human Rights law is similar. The Terrorism Acts, which came into law in 2000 and 2006, have caused a marked increase in racial profiling and have also been the basis to justify existent trends in discrimination against persons of Muslim origin (or resembling such) by the British police. There have been tensions over immigration since at least the early 1900s. These were originally engendered by hostility towards Jews and immigrants from Russia and Eastern Europe. Britain first began restricting immigration in 1905 under the Aliens Restriction Act. This was the first time that the United Kingdom implemented a policy that was designed to prevent the influx of immigrants,in particular it was aimed at those Jews who had fled persecution in Russia. Before the Act Britain had had a favourable immigration policy, most notably throughout the Victorian Period. However,for the first time policy was enacted to prevent the wholesale entry of foreign migrants. Although the Act was extreme Britain maintained its asylum policy. This meant that any persons who had fled their country due to religious or political persecution could be granted asylum in the United Kingdom. However,such policy was removed in the period before the Second World War to prevent the wholesale entry of Jewish refugees leaving from the Third Reich. Although Britain's policy was restrictive it was one of the leading nations that helped solve the refugee crisis preceding World War Two. Britain has also had very strong limits on immigration since the early 1960s. Legislation was particularly targeted at members of the Commonwealth of Nations, who had previously been able to migrate to the UK under the British Nationality Act 1948. Conservative MP Enoch Powell made a controversial 1968 Rivers of Blood speech in opposition to Commonwealth immigration to Britain; this resulted in him being swiftly removed from the Shadow Cabinet. Virtually all legal immigration, except for those claiming refugee status, ended with the Immigration Act 1971; however, free movement for citizens of the European Union was later established by the Immigration Act 1988. Legislation in 1993, 1996 and 1999 gradually decreased the rights and benefits given to those claiming refugee status ("asylum seekers"). 582,000 people came to live in the UK from elsewhere in the world in 2004 according to the office of National Statistics. Some commentators believe that an amount of racism, from within all communities, has been undocumented within the UK, adducing the many British cities whose populations have a clear racial divide. While these commentators believe that race relations have improved immensely over the last thirty years, they still believe that racial segregation remains an important but largely unaddressed problem, although research has shown that ethnic segregation has reduced within England and Wales between the 1991 Census and 2001 Census. The United Kingdom has been accused of "sleepwalking toward apartheid" by Trevor Phillips, chair of that country's Commission for Racial Equality. Philips has said that Britain is fragmenting into isolated racial communities: "literal black holes into which no one goes without fear and trepidation and nobody escapes undamaged". Philips believes that racial segregation in Britain is approaching that of the United States. "You can get to the point as they have in the U.S. where things are so divided that there is no turning back." The BBC has reported that the latest crime statistics appear to support Phillips' concerns. They show that race-hate crimes increased by almost 600 per cent in London in the month after the July 7 bomb attacks, with 269 more offences allegedly "motivated by religious hatred" reported to the Metropolitan Police, compared to the same period last year. In 2007 racist remarks made by contestants on the Celebrity Big Brother TV series against Bollywood actress Shilpa Shetty caused widespread outrage, not least in the UK with the British public phoning in to make Shetty the series winner and the other ethnic minority contestant Jermaine Jackson the runner up. Demonstrators in Bangalore burned effigies of the TV Channel's directors.
londonbus wrote: » We're breeding with them! And its acceptable!
UsernameInUse wrote: » I see nothing wrong with the free movement of people in and out of the country - why are some people willing to bite the head off you for saying that? Surely, it's a basic Human Right? It's particularly hypocritical when we are the people, who have been discriminated against in earlier times for doing just that - perhaps we could show some compassion for those that just want to make a better life for themselves. I think it's highly racist that some of as are very anti-multicultural.
dilbert2 wrote: » In general no, I think we are as a nation reasonably modern, tolerant, liberal and enlightened in our views toward other people coming here. Sure you get the occasional right wing, foaming-at-the-mouth idiots complaining about how the place is been "stolen" from us, but in fairness you get those in every country.
