Jim236 wrote: » Well if we separate the sovereign debt from the private debt, we wouldn't be defaulting because the sovereign debt is managable. But if we don't do this, we will default, with or without the bailout.
henryporter wrote: » After watching Pierse Doherty on Primetime on Wednesday last an emphatic NO! - I can't believe that the sum total of Sinn Fein's economic policies are to take what remains of the Pension Fund an what is on reserve in the Central Bank and use that to p!ss away on one years Public Expenditure while not having any idea what to do next year, while at the same time allowing us to become alienated by anyone willing to ever lend us money on the future (unless they're aiming to make us the first sub-prime Country!)
disgruntled voter wrote: » Yes SF here. Sick of the 3 main Parties trying to outdo each other on promises. Good oppoition needed in next dail. Just my take on it anyway.
lugha wrote: » Well at least that is a sensible reason to vote for them. They certainly will be a different type of opposition to FF. But for those who will vote SF because they approve of their policies, that will never be implemented because they won't be in power ...... :rolleyes:
dabestman1 wrote: » Im just reading the posts about the apparent links of crime to Aengus o snodaigh, sounds like SF bashiing to me. Anyway, Remember Judge Curtain, caught with Child Porn, ran as a councillor for the PDs and Michael McDowell campaigned for him, so by your logic is Michael McDowell a Paedophile?
Deleted User wrote: » So whats your solution?
Xclusiv Barber wrote: » The vast majority of voters are over 40yrs old. Yes? Of that, the vast majority of those will never vote SF. They will hit much bigger numbers but will be out voted at the older majority end of electorate. However, in 10-15 yrs time.....?
SafeSurfer wrote: » So you would criticise Michael Mc Dowell for canvassing with a paedophile before he became aware of it but will not criticise Gerry Adams for canvassing with his paedophile brother Liam after he became of aware of it? Is this not hyprocritical? Extract from Suzanne Breen Article, full atricle here http://www.tribune.ie/article/2010/jan/24/the-truth-about-gerry-adams-has-been-dragged-kicki/The day after the Gorman interview, Adams told RTÉ that, on hearing Liam was in Sinn Féin, he "moved immediately" to stop his Dáil nomination and "to get him dumped out of Sinn Féin... I moved very, very quickly". The following Sunday we printed material that proved that he was lying. We published photographs of Gerry Adams canvassing in June in the 1997 Dáil election campaign with the brother he believed was a paedophile and from whom he was allegedly estranged. This canvass occurred eight months after Gerry Adams said Liam had been "dumped" from the party.The Adams brothers were seen laughing on the canvass in a shopping centre and on Dundalk streets. Liam was proudly sporting a Sinn Féin badge. Liam's Sinn Féin colleagues from Dundalk gave us details of his extensive involvement in the party and how he "breathed new life into the Muirhevnamor cumann", setting up many community schemes and always talking about his brother. We also revealed that it wasn't Gerry Adams who stopped Liam becoming the party's Dáil candidate. Republicans present at the selection convention said Liam Adams had entered the convention, which was chaired by Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin, as a candidate. But when he saw that the crowd was strongly in favour of his rival, Hanratty, he stood up and announced he was withdrawing from the race. Minutes were taken of the meeting. Again, Gerry Adams had lied.Sinn Féin Louth TD Arthur Morgan rushed to his leader's defence. Liam Adams had been a member of Sinn Féin, he admitted, but he'd played a minor, short-lived role. He "was never a party officer".The following week's Sunday Tribune proved that was completely untrue. We revealed that Liam Adams had been Sinn Féin's most senior official in Co Louth. He was chairman of the Louth comhairle ceantair, liaising directly with the leadership. Morgan would later claim this had "slipped his memory".
UDAWINNER wrote: » Everyone has a relation to be ashamed of, meanwhile Bertie selected a certain person to the senate despite this person being accused of rape not once but twice and also gave him a lead role in dublin port.
SafeSurfer wrote: » The facts are that Joe Burke was the partner of an FF senator Maria Corrigan. The DPP dropped charges against Burke in November 2008. So Gerry Adams has shown how ashamed he is of his child abusing brother by canvassing with him, attending his wedding and allowing him to be a senior party member in both county Louth and west Belfast? How can Gerry Adams have any credibility in condemning Clerical Child Sexual Abuse and its cover up when he protected his paedophile brother? The Sinn Fein constitution states : "Where allegations of sexual harassment and sexual assault are made, they should be referred directly to an ard chomhairle." So the leader of Sinn Fein disregarded the constitution of the party of which he is leader. As for Bertie Ahern's nomination of a person accused twice of rape to the Port authority I find it disgusting and shameful. However Bertie Ahern's actions don't make Gerry Adam's protection of a paedophile any less serious. It simply means that a former and present leader of 2 of the country's main political parties have no credibility. Of the 2 only one, Gerry Adams is seeking to be elected in the forthcoming general election.
sharkie66 wrote: » SS, It is obvious at this stage that you are not going to vote for Sinn Fein. Bringing up hearsay by the likes of a dodgy Independent Newspaper pen pusher, namely ms Breen to qualify your dodgy argument is tiresome. We all know why you will not vote for SF at this stage and anything else you say is more information than we need to be perfectly honest! There is another thread on boards.ie which deals with your tedious slant on things i.e. 'Why I won't be voting for SF'. Surely you could do us all a favour and add something to THIS thread re voting for SF rather than the constant harping on about hearsay and links from the pro British Sindo Independent newspapers and Sindo Tribune. beir bua
fuked wrote: » I feel that SF couldn't do any worse than what has already been done to our lovely country Ireland!!! As for FF and not forgetting the Greens... Well they have done more that the British have in 700 years. They destroyed it! FG, Labour, FF, Greens, Independents, the defunked PD's have all contributed to this, as they have all been in power in some way over the years. If it weren't for such a party like SF, who might I add were kept out of the policitical arena for years. And don't forget, all the parties have blood on their hands show how or other. So, if anyone wants to know something or have action taken, just go to your local SF councilor / TD and you will get both a reply and action taken. I guess its all over now, bar the shouting, and I bet David Camoron is rubbing his has with glee.
fuked wrote: » I And don't forget, all the parties have blood on their hands show how or other. .
Capt'n Midnight wrote: » In 10-15 years time most of those voters will have grown out of it. Just like previous generations.
SafeSurfer wrote: » How do, for example the Green party have blood on their hands?
fuked wrote: » Think of the people who have taken their lives over the debt they were left in after the ecomony caved in. Good hard working people, who have paid taxes all their lives and raised families. And small business people going to the wall and having to lay workers off. The Green party knew who and what they were getting into with FF, but their hunger for power and greed for a big wage made them hold on in government for longer than they should have.
fuked wrote: » I feel that SF couldn't do any worse than what has already been done to our lovely country Ireland!!! As for FF and not forgetting the Greens... Well they have done more that the British have in 700 years. They destroyed it!
sharkie66 wrote: » Have a gawk at this article boys and girls and any doubting Thomas amongst posters out there!http://www.examiner.ie/ireland/sf-jobs-plan-is-well-worked-out-and-deserves-to-be-taken-seriously-144204.html#ixzz1CzbfzUuh I see Labour are moving closer and closer to Sinn Fein's stance with Gilmore doing his Angry Man stunt.
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