KamiKazeKitten wrote: » I hate Myers, that paper and all he stands for, but he's spot on about this. Gerry Ryan was no better than the Dundons or any of their type....... ...........People in glass houses and all that...
Latchy wrote: » So I gather Myres is comparing it to a question of '' should he be sitting in the seat giving the nation his views on how it was sold down the tube'' ?
The man is dead. He is not being abandoned if the world is told in detail about the criminal calamity that drugs had made of his life -- but RTE is already abandoning those other people who are not yet victims, but by God who will soon be if they follow the Ryan path. This is not a once-off issue: that much was plain when Eamon Dunphy was introduced on 'Prime Time' recently as a voice of moral authority. This is the fine fellow who once complained about how difficult it was to get good cocaine in Dublin, and who managed to rack up nine driving and drink-driving charges before he was put off the road.
ArtSmart wrote: » In fairness to Myers, he's an example/ beacon for those who think as utter twats, they'll never get into journalism, he does blaze the trail.
Dacian wrote: » What if some of the govt are using it? Bank managers? Property deveolpers? lets look at the people with the money to use this regularly....Why the lack of condemnation from any RTE friends of Gerry Ryan. I know of a radio presenter who has exchanged sexual favours in the past for her hit.
Johro wrote: » The Fair Trade people are a bit slow here.
AnnyHallsal wrote: » May I say Myers looks like a pig and writes like a prig. I don't mean that abusively. Just an observation.
OutlawPete wrote: » Just what has that journalist's looks got to do with anything exactly? You're in trouble when the feminists see that post I can tell you. They hate to see someone being critisied for their looks for little or no reason. I'm sure I have that right.
Donkey Oaty wrote: » Sorry Latchy, there seems to be a misunderstanding here. I've read the article, but I can't make sense of Myres on this point. He seems to think that RTE are abandoning Dunphy in some way, or maybe he thinks they are hypocritical for having him talk about the economy when he has a history of cocaine use. Here's the quote, for anyone who's interested:
Genuine question - what's he - or you - on about here? Do you think that because someone has a history of cocaine use (which we know about) that they should be disqualified from political commentating?
Latchy wrote: » No, like alcohol it might affect your judgement but in the cold light of day everybody has an opinion on anything regardless of their ...social drink/drug of choice . I would have liked to hear more on Dunphys opinions on the state of the nation on that prime time show , if time had allowed and he is no different to anybody in that respect he may have lost out on the downturn to . How much or how little he put up his nose is his own buisness
AnnyHallsal wrote: » Are you complaining as a 'feminist' or as a 'manist'?
AnnyHallsal wrote: » Cos I don't see why you would be speaking on the behalf of 'feminists' otherwise
OutlawPete wrote: » Well, I actually consider myself to be a feminist actually, but that's not why you called. I'm not speaking "on behalf" of anyone. I'm just pointing out that they don't appreciate it when people criticize another's physical appearance for no reason (and rightly so). The man looking like a "pig" has nothing to do with what this article is about and irrelevant, surely. Your name is Surely, right?
OutlawPete wrote: » Well, I actually consider myself to be a feminist
AnnyHallsal wrote: » Mostly because it rhymes. Are you complaining as a 'feminist' or as a 'manist'? Cos I don't see why you would be speaking on the behalf of 'feminists' otherwise
WindSock wrote: » He'll pick up on one comment made by a female poster regardless of how throwaway it is, yet completely ignore the similar barrage of comments made by male comments to make some sort of obscure anti feminist point on how feminists are all hypocrites in the meanwhile ignoring the irony of his own points and drag you into a multi quote battle of doom that generally goes nowhere and serves little or no purpose only to expose his latent hatred of people who try to point out the obvious sexism that exposed is in Irish culture and turn it around to show that it is actually not women but white middle class men who are the most oppressed in the western world or something to that effect.
OutlawPete wrote: » Your name is Surely, right?
WindSock wrote: » Seriously, a pinch of salt is to be taken with olp's comments regarding gender/feminism. He'll pick up on one comment made by a female poster regardless of how throwaway it is, yet completely ignore the similar barrage of comments made by male comments to make some sort of obscure anti feminist point on how feminists are all hypocrites in the meanwhile ignoring the irony of his own points and drag you into a multi quote battle of doom that generally goes nowhere and serves little or no purpose only to expose his latent hatred of people who try to point out the obvious sexism that exposed is in Irish culture and turn it around to show that it is actually not women but white middle class men who are the most oppressed in the western world or something to that effect. Baiting I guess it's called.
Donkey Oaty wrote: » Yeah, but he does it well.
AnnyHallsal wrote: » For the record, I apologise for allowing my negative opinion of Kevin Myers's character to colour my description of his appearance. There's a lot of apologising to be done around After Hours in that case!
WindSock wrote: » .. yet completely ignore the similar barrage of comments made by male comments ..
WindSock wrote: » .. serves little or no purpose only to expose his latent hatred of people who try to point out the obvious sexism that exposed is in Irish culture ..
WindSock wrote: » ..and turn it around to show that it is actually not women but white middle class men who are the most oppressed in the western world or something to that effect.
WindSock wrote: » Baiting I guess it's called.
OutlawPete wrote: » Horseshit. I have cristised many men's comments on this forum when they have critised women based on just how they look, so get your facts straight. I am one of those people, so I hate myself do I? Yeah, well - as they saying goes, misery loves company but hates competition. No actually, just drawing attention to the fact that if it was a female journalist that was said to look like a "pig" it would be critised. See, it's okay for women to point this crap out, but when a guy does it, it's "baiting". Sad that you can't see the double standard there, no surprise though.
