tudlytops wrote: » I just think that it is very unfair on the disable and those caring for them. Why should you be condemned to a life of poverty just because you are ill, disabled or looking after someone who is??? Their benefit went down, they are losing the heating (not sure of the name) allowance, in favour of a €40 one of payment (how many bags of coal is that), they will surely keep worm all winter with that. What this says is that if you are ill or disabled, you are really good for nothing and this so called caring society doesn't give a damn, because you can not pay taxes.
chucken1 wrote: » I totally agree with you and my hubby, my son and I are "living' (it up according to some).on 290e a week. Ive never seen us as "vulnerable'..we can move around,we get by..but those cuts are taking the proverbial.. This has to stop!,they've no grip on reality.
melekalikimaka wrote: » social welfare is too high for our economy to support public service wages are too high for our economy to support your points to children and esb are sadly second, the country cannot afford to fund people to the level they have been, cost of living will drop and will hopefully make things manageable... this christmas is hard for everyone
melekalikimaka wrote: » your points to children and esb are sadly second, the country cannot afford to fund people to the level they have been
turbobaby wrote: » Get a job then you family of useless saps... Can you honestly say there's nothing out there?
melekalikimaka wrote: » do you believe that they are all condemned to a life of poverty as a result of this budget?
sandmanporto wrote: » In that case, major scraps should be in place and because the economy is more important people should have to sleep rough. we all need to take cuts! Is that the solution? I know that if that happened there would be so much violence on the streets, we wouldnt be alive! So before you defend the economy(which is a man made theory funded by mans actions), you should consider the individual blocks of society( who exist and need to live) first! Without harmony, there is no ECONOMY or COUNTRY! It's a hard christmas for everyone, but some people wont get presents this christmas, and i can guarantee you that! i see people spending christmas in hotels, while some people wont have heating or turkey or even a cake for christmas! thats reality! more cuts necessary to those? or more to the ones in hotels? you decide what you believe!!!
chucken1 wrote: » Thats lovely! You should be very proud of that post. Do you know our circumstances?
tudlytops wrote: » As a result of many budgets.... Why do this people have to live, many their whole life's on so very little??? its not as if anyone is even trying to help them to work, if you go to the so called services for the disabled, how many disabled people do you see working in there? If even the government won't employ them, how can we expect the privet sector to do so. And if they can't work, why should they live on as little as €188 a week, and have to be on as little as that since the day they got sick or disabled? If you are unemployed you will have the chance to go to work eventually, if you are disabled, you are just that, disabled and poor.
High energy wrote: » I think the dole should actually be increased every year you are on it, like €188 the first year, then €208 the second year, then €218 the third year up to a maximum of €267.90 Make it more of a lucrative career option than it currently is ya know
melekalikimaka wrote: » they get more than 188 via benefits of other kinds. many on minimum wage after rent or mortgage would be on similar levels, 188 might not seem alot now, but i blame that partly on the celtic tiger. look at other countries welfare. i agree if you are disabled you should not have to suffer the indignity of poverty, no one should have that forced upon them, but i dont think it would be feasible to place them above others in our economic climate, we cant give what we dont have.
filthymcnasty wrote: » Its not going to be rejected he voted for the budget.. it will pass every year as always despite whining on mayo FM or wherever, these cnuts always go with the party line ff of fg
High energy wrote: » I disagree, they're being robbed blind
turbobaby wrote: » Ah sure they're blind, let's give them more money on top of the extras they've got over the last few years...
tudlytops wrote: » I agree we can't give what we don't have, but surely they could stop being hit in every budget and more services should be provided to help them, those who can, to get a job, even if it were for just a few hours a week. .
turbobaby wrote: » Well you are on the internet at half one on a Thursday night. Cancel your internet connection, sell your computer, for a start. People need to dig in.
melekalikimaka wrote: » i'm not for once second saying i think any of this is a good thing for these people, i think its horrible the least off are suffering. but i just get annoyed when people dont look outside their own little world about what this budget needs to do and how its madness to think anyone is going to get away unaffected by this.
melekalikimaka wrote: » i believe if fair cuts, i feel everyone should pay take the same cut, the rich and the poor. it may not have worked out this way in the budget, but i sure as hell know 6 billion has now been saved, something we promised we would do to secure our loan from europe, and i sure as hell know people who dodged it this year will get hit next year, or the year after.
melekalikimaka wrote: » i believe if fair cuts, i feel everyone should pay take the same cut,
