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State Pathologist - S Class Mercedes

Arsne

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MagicSean

Don Juan DeMagoo wrote: »

Ahem now considering you spent what lets say 6/7 years getting a PhD.... do you think you would degrade your self to do a recruitment interview process and the subsequent basic training for regular cops, eh no. They want to be pathologists not cops:rolleyes:

Degrade yourself?

prinz

k_mac wrote: »

Degrade yourself?

I noticed that too.

Morlar

Once she is paid at or close to eu average I am happy. Also that the car is either a more affordable model or if not is provided by herself on her eu average salary.

ellinguistico

Arsne wrote: »

Whats the story with this

If you are going to whinge about something at least have a think about whether it's worth a whinge? I haven't read any of the other posts but i am betting that people wouldn't give a **** if he/she had the use of a helicopter. It's a very important and tough job that quite a large proportion of people would not be able to do. Are we really going to turn into (or have we already turned??) a nation of pissy bitter people who focus all their time, energy and spark into knocking others, even when they dont deserve to be knocked. Cop on you twat.

Don Juan DeMagoo

prinz wrote: »

Let's break this down again..

State Pathologist's Office - no need to be a garda.
Forensic Science Lab - no need to be a garda.
Garda Technical Bureau - yes you need to be a garda, hint is in the name.

The GTB by the by don't engage in pathology work, so if they wanted to be pathologists they wouldn't be applying to them anyway.

You are talking to a person who is unsure of what branch of it they applied for but they were all well to do Phd science students, so I reckon it wasn't the GTB. I will email them and see.

Two of the lads got distinctions and couldn't get a toe in the door and were employed very soon after emigrating.

Again lads I am not looking to annoy anyone, this is what happened to my friends.

To Biffo: I have no interest in what she drives, I had suggested that the state buy a cheap helicopter for her. Surely a lot more efficient than driving and charging mileage and Biffo yes you are a troll

To Preusse: This is Ireland and yes cronyism is rampant here. Small country and all.

That is my opinion is all, not trying to annoy anyone.

Better get back to work;)

GavRedKing

Id say they should have a fleet of Ferrari's for the S.P.O.

Dont know why people are complaining about how she travels, if its a state car she is one of the only people that can justifiy it and if its her personnal car then it doesnt matter what she drives.

Morlar

ellinguistico wrote: »

If you are going to whinge about something at least have a think about whether it's worth a whinge? I haven't read any of the other posts but i am betting that people wouldn't give a **** if he/she had the use of a helicopter. It's a very important and tough job that quite a large proportion of people would not be able to do. Are we really going to turn into (or have we already turned??) a nation of pissy bitter people who focus all their time, energy and spark into knocking others, even when they dont deserve to be knocked. Cop on you twat.

Looking to ensure our money is wisely spent seems reasonable to me given the current situation.

Don Juan DeMagoo

It wasn't me! wrote: »

Yes. Yes it is.

Think of it like this: Brian wants to be a mechanic for large vehicles. He's looked around but the only options for an apprenticeship are abroad, and he doesn't want to leave the country. Then he hears that the army are recruiting for heavy vehicle mechanics and looks into it. The above does not mean that one has to join the army to be a heavy vehicle mechanic, but it's how Brian had an opportunity to do it.

Eh who is Brian and did he join the army?

Only Kidding

prinz

Don Juan DeMagoo wrote: »

You are talking to a person who is unsure of what branch of it they applied for but they were all well to do Phd science students, so I reckon it wasn't the GTB. I will email them and see. Two of the lads got distinctions and couldn't get a toe in the door and were employed very soon after emigrating. Again lads I am not looking to annoy anyone, this is what happened to my friends.

That they couldn't get a toe in the door has nothing to do with not being Gardaí and all to do with the fact that our State Pathologist's Office only has about 12 staff or so, from top to bottom about half of whom are pathologists and scientists. Not going to be a huge turnover of staff either.

Don Juan DeMagoo

k_mac wrote: »

Degrade yourself?

Apologies wrong choice of word:o

Dr Strange

Don Juan DeMagoo wrote: »

....they were all well to do Phd science students....

Ah, but that removes them from the pathologist's service. They are not pathologists then. You would have to get through medical school and become a Dr. first (not PhD, that is different) and then specialise in pathology to work as clinical pathologists. After that you will have to gain special training and qualification to work in forensic pathology

Don Juan DeMagoo wrote: »

To Preusse: This is Ireland and yes cronyism is rampant here. Small country and all.

I'm not denying that nor doubt that this has happened in general but I seriously doubt it in the case of the State Pathologist.

[Deleted User]

Jake1 wrote: »

yeah, coming out of places where angels fear to thread.

Needles?

missingtime

Don Juan DeMagoo wrote: »

(1) Was she forced into her current employment? Enough with the oh but the poor dear has to work with terribly traumatic scenes. It is in the job title and I am aware there are hundreds of very qualified people in Ireland trying to get into the forensic pathology department...........
But guess what people, the one place in Europe that with the exception of a couple of the higher people in the department, you have to be a member of the Gardai to apply??? I can only imagine the class of highly qualified person applying.

ONLY in Ireland would you see such blatant obtuseness and cronyism

(2) What do her international peers earn. Enough with this "there is no one else as qualified" malarkey. Reduce her wage to the average international/european standard. If she decides to leave, so be it. Offer the position up to an international audience, watch and see it be gobbled up. Then repeat it for all the state bodies. Trust me, you may not want to believe it but there are some more intelligent people in the world than Ireland....

Did she not have a helicopter at one stage as well....... Surely a state chopper would make more sense than an s class. There are loads of choppers laying idle at the moment, buy one for a knock off price and TAADAA..... end of silly threads that make me question my country again

Posts like this make me question my country.

Its her job, she gets paid well big ****ing deal. Get on with it.

Nation of ****ing begruders sometimes

Don Juan DeMagoo

Preusse wrote: »

Ah, but that removes them from the pathologist's service. They are not pathologists then. You would have to get through medical school and become a Dr. first (not PhD, that is different) and then specialise in pathology to work as clinical pathologists. After that you will have to gain special training and qualification to work in forensic pathology.

Right so I feel like a prize tulip, cheers for clearing that up.
I will have to record conversations like Dougal anymore:o I hadn't an idea about that.

Thank you:D

Don Juan DeMagoo

missingtime wrote: »

Posts like this make me question my country.

Its her job, she gets paid well big ****ing deal. Get on with it.

Nation of ****ing begruders sometimes

Nope I am not a begrudger, I am merely asking a few questions. Is that ok?

Dr Strange

Don Juan DeMagoo wrote: »

Right so I feel like a prize tulip, cheers for clearing that up.
I will have to record conversations like Dougal anymore:o I hadn't an idea about that.

Thank you:D

Look, I don't blame you, it can be very confusing. Knowing what a pathologist does, what an anatomical pathology technician, a laboratory technologist, a chemical or biological scientist does when they all work in a similar area within forensic sciences can be quite tricky if you are not involved in it yourself. Some may even have similar or overlapping tasks but their main responsibilities, training and qualification background are different as they are aimed at different aspects of the overall forensic job.

Don Juan DeMagoo

drkpower wrote: »

On the basis of his posts thus far, I suspect that even if his mates were trying honestly to explain something to him, it would have been a futile exercise. Reminds me of Homer S.'s head opening to reveal a monkey playing the drums.

Was it "in the air tonight" by Phil Collins oh I do so love that song. Must be marvelous to be as clever as yourself:rolleyes:

missingtime

Don Juan DeMagoo wrote: »

Nope I am not a begrudger, I am merely asking a few questions. Is that ok?

I've no problem with questions but I just hate people giving out about **** like this.

It just comes across as petty.

Corsendonk

This thread was in politics two days ago, is AH now recycling closed politics threads?

ClutchIt

Don Juan DeMagoo wrote: »

(2) What do her international peers earn. Enough with this "there is no one else as qualified" malarkey. Reduce her wage to the average international/european standard. If she decides to leave, so be it. Offer the position up to an international audience, watch and see it be gobbled up. Then repeat it for all the state bodies. Trust me, you may not want to believe it but there are some more intelligent people in the world than Ireland....

Did she not have a helicopter at one stage as well....... Surely a state chopper would make more sense than an s class. There are loads of choppers laying idle at the moment, buy one for a knock off price and TAADAA..... end of silly threads that make me question my country again

THIS IS SHEER IDIOCY.

Your solution is (A) Sack Irish people and hire foreigners. (B) Use a helicopter! Which would cost the same price as a new S-class every year just to keep running (fuel, pilot, health and safety, air traffic control etc).

Really that post and any post begrudging the state pathologist is embarrassing.

spyderski

bluewolf wrote: »

I saw a merc convertible for sale for 5k a while ago
Think it was one of those s-class things too

They don't make S Class convertibles (and an SL is not an SClass convertible before any smart asses try to correct me).

Hers was a new model - not €5k.

Anyway, I just realized - those defending her choice of car are right -she does deserve it - she's never had 1 complaint made against her by a patient.;)

[Deleted User]

spyderski wrote: »

They don't make S Class convertibles (and an SL is not an SClass convertible before any smart asses try to correct me).

Hers was a new model - not €5k.

Anyway, I just realized - those defending her choice of car are right -she does deserve it - she's never had 1 complaint made against her by a patient.;)

I don't know anything about them tbh except it looked nice

in any case, she can have whatever car she wants

HarryPotter41

spyderski wrote: »

Sometimes I have to drive the length of the country and back in the SAME day - ain't nobody buying me a S-Class though. Anyhoo fair play to her - wonder if she has a 2011 model on order yet....

Do you then have to dismember a corpse while watching for every indication form what you are seeing as to whether that person may have died of natural causes, been murdered, how they were murdered keeping in mind that your conclusions will come up in a court of law to be taken apart by learned counsel because you were so tired from banging around country lanes in your opel corsa that you made a huge mistake in your conclusions?

HarryPotter41

Preusse wrote: »

I'd like to see a link to a regulation or document where it says that you have to be a member of AGS to apply for a post at the State Pathologists Office. I am not aware of "hundreds" of qualified forensic pathologists in this country. There are many clinical (histo)pathologists but you need special expertise and training to become a qualified forensic pathologist (after your histopath training and experience).

You will probably find it was just uninformed waffle. Unusual that.

cnocbui

In an ideal world, the State Pathologist would oneday receive notice of a horendous mass slaying in a distant localle. She would sadly don her favourite, though thread-bare coat, the one with the several times mended elbow patches, emerge from her undeservedly luxurious three room apartment, ignoring once again the faded demolition order pinned to the front door as it flaps in the breeze.

She would shuffle down the street, trying to step round the piles of uncollected rubbish and curse softly as such manoeuvrings caused her to step in a puddle and allow the ingress of some water through the as-yet unamended hole in her shoe. She would then climb into her 4th hand trabant and set of for the other side of the country, hoping the mended gearbox didn't fall off half way there like it did the last time.

Many weary hours later she would arrive at the gruesome scene to appraise the carnage. Apart from the complete dismemberment of all the corpses, she would discern a single common factor linking them - they had all been posters on Boards.ie who were well known for their begrudgery and small mindedness. The one's whose complaints cost her the fondly remembered merc and lead to the cut in salary.

A slight smile is the only slip of professionalism she would allow herself.

She would emerge from the abatoir like room - the Garda sergeant waiting patiently, one eyebrow rises slightly in query.

"Natural causes Seargeant, no need to bother with this further."

She would climb back into her battered trabant and set off, thinking the warm glow inside, should be enough to counter the drafts and lack of heating for at least a week.

HarryPotter41

Don Juan DeMagoo wrote: »

Dude this is my understanding that (it was 5 years ago), my mates tried for 2 years to enter the irish forensic team. All the interviewers said/suggested multiple times they applied, that they should apply for the Gardai as there would be a better chance of getting up that ladder and into their chosen fields, as they were still young enough. They are now in forensic fields in england and scotland!

So is this a crude misinterpretation on my part!

Yes, it is. Scenes of Crime in the Gardai are peopled by Garda members trained within the Gardai, for obvious reasons in linking the needs of AGS from scene to trial. The suggestion was made as a way that they could get into that career, not that they HAD to. As was said before, its a limited field in a small country, they were getting helpful suggestions as to how to get into it if they really wanted to.

Its dead, admit it, stop flogging it

[Deleted User]

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Finally these doomsayers have found a home with this recession. Does it really matter a damn what car she drives? In what way does it affect any of ye?

finty

Originally Posted by Don Juan DeMagoo

(2) What do her international peers earn. Enough with this "there is no one else as qualified" malarkey. Reduce her wage to the average international/european standard. If she decides to leave, so be it. Offer the position up to an international audience, watch and see it be gobbled up. Then repeat it for all the state bodies. Trust me, you may not want to believe it but there are some more intelligent people in the world than Ireland....

Hey Mr Magoo,

Marie Cassidy is Scottish :rolleyes:

Morlar

Deleted User wrote: »

Does it really matter a damn what car she drives? In what way does it affect any of ye?

That depends on who is paying for it.

spyderski

finty wrote: »

Originally Posted by Don Juan DeMagoo

(2) What do her international peers earn. Enough with this "there is no one else as qualified" malarkey. Reduce her wage to the average international/european standard. If she decides to leave, so be it. Offer the position up to an international audience, watch and see it be gobbled up. Then repeat it for all the state bodies. Trust me, you may not want to believe it but there are some more intelligent people in the world than Ireland....

Hey Mr Magoo,

Marie Cassidy is Scottish :rolleyes:

So you proved his point then? I'd say she wouldn't get an S-Class in Scotland!