mack81 wrote: » Absolute f***ing disgusting c**ts. The "Owner Occupiers" statement is unbelievable. It really sounds like they are going to leave the landlords with multiple properties alone. If I was in a position to emigrate i think i would.
mossym wrote: » they shouldn't at the same time, we shouldn't have to pay them NOT to do these things either
Dr.Silly wrote: » WOW, incredible, I wonder how differently you'd speak if you were in the position of so many other people. Fair play to you for been so knowledgable.
Shenshen wrote: » What, you're paying them not to provide water and not to take the bins away?
wolfpawnat wrote: » We are already going to be taking a hit of at least half that, its not my fault you HAD to get on the property ladder!!!.
Snakeblood wrote: » He's saying everyone should bear some burden. I don't see how that's such a horrible thing to say.
mossym wrote: » the point being made earlier in the thread was that this tax was being used to pay for local authorities to provide these services. so yes, i am paying my own bins, plus my own water... so if we take that idea that this tax will pay local authorities, then yes, i would be paying them not to provide these things sometimes it pays to read the whole thread before you jump into arguments
Dr.Silly wrote: » So I'm 4 monts behind my mortgage, No tax on the car, 3 kids, Married, both lost our jobs. I should still bear the burden and hand over an other 80 quid for other peoples f*ck ups.
Auvers wrote: » balls I don't consider my house as being on some kind of ladder, and oh it my fault for having a job and wanting to have a home for my pregnant wife being prudent in saving for a deposit and being the only one working and my wife cant find a job and the social is giving us fcukall , aye tis all the ordinary working peoples fault for wanting a basic human right
SamSamSammy wrote: » thats right, get someone else to do it, take the hit, someone else do it should be irelands catchphrase.
Diapason wrote: » It's clear from some of the smug responses in this thread that we need a rental tax, randomly applied to tenants for no particular reason at all.
Snakeblood wrote: » Yeah. Because everyone has to. I don't see why I should pay for other people's **** ups, but guess what, I am. Everyone wants to point at everyone else and say 'why don't they pay?' In a perfect world, I'd still have my job, I wouldn't have a baby in a one bed apartment, the economy wouldn't have **** itself and there'd be enough money to go around. But there isn't. I've the world of sympathy for you, but you're hardly in the worst position in the world. It's far from the best, definitely, but it's also not the worst.
anniehoo wrote: » :eek: You must be loaded. €80 extra on top of every other bill i have to pay is a huge amount every month.
Auvers wrote: » I am already paying more than my fair share in taxes and having been doing so for the best part of 15 years and i didn't go for trips to New York or spend my cash of trivial things during the Celtic tigers years, no I saved and didn't get involved in get rich quick property schemes but yet I am expected to bail out corrupt politicians and there property developer mates
wolfpawnat wrote: » Just stop attacking those of us on SW, not all of us are scumbags and before this recession happened I was working and paying taxes. I had worked since I was 15! After school and weekends. I am NOT some scumbag riding the system. You would rather other property owners like yourself, who are on harder times than you, to be cut MORE money than you rather than help with the burden that we are ALL feeling!
Dr.Silly wrote: » You're right, it's not the worst, I think when the house gets taken from me in 3 months time, it might be though. But hey, I won't have an 80 euro bill to pay each month then.
Shenshen wrote: » As I understand, nobody in Ireland apart from businesses pays for their water yet. Yes, you will have to pay if the infrastructure to transport the water from the edge of your propery to your front door gets damaged, but you're not paying for the water itself. From what I can tell, councils are doing an awful lot as it is without any direct taxes going towards those services. I really, honestly don't see the harm in a dedicated tax like this.
wolfpawnat wrote: » I have never been a property developer and I am not a politician. I am suffering too, we all are. But we have to keep going because if we don't our children will have less than what we have now!
wolfpawnat wrote: » We are already paying the mortgages of property hungry animals!
wolfpawnat wrote: » A friend of my ex that is now on the SW and is only paying the interest on his mortgage until he gets a job. Can you discuss such terms with your provider? The banks do not want your house because they know they cannot sell it as there is no market there for it. Be firm but reasonable with them and see where it gets you.
Auvers wrote: » I am not attacking SW recipients, the dole needs means tests need to reassessed not just a blanket €200 a month and i never said you where a scumbag riding the system, how you got that from me saying reduce the dole I don't know again why should I apologize for being prudent and saving to buy a house I already pay taxes and have always but I don't have anymore to give as 80 a month is a huge amount to my family at the moment
Auvers wrote: » wtf are you ranting at me for I made a heat of the moment comment, I am not one of these smug fcukers who thinks the dole should be just slashed in the budget, I think a new look at the ways its means tested with supplements given out to people like yourself who need it
Diapason wrote: » You're paying my mortgage now? That's a load off, cheers!
