Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and every major candidate for statewide office oppose it. At least 38 newspapers in California have editorialized against it. The presidents of Mexico and Colombia said it would disrupt the fight against drug traffickers. U.S. Atty. Gen. Eric Holder has vowed to "vigorously enforce" federal narcotics laws. The drug czar, Gil Kerlikowske, has led the Obama administration's opposition but is wary of triggering a backlash by coming to California. "The last thing people want to see is someone parachuting into their state from inside the Beltway," he said. Proponents are putting tremendous stock in the youth vote. Democrats have begun to study whether legalization measures on state ballots in 2012 could boost turnout for the presidential election.
DOC09UNAM wrote: » What's a "good %" work out at these days?
seamus wrote: » The primary problem here will be for other states. If it's legal to grow and possess in California, are they going to have border patrols in Nevada, strip-searching everyone on their way to Vegas?
The_Minister wrote: » Huller has already come out and said that they will continue to raid, shut down and prosecute cannabis growers, serllers and dealers. The federal law remains unchanged.
Pookah wrote: » I thought the federal laws only apply to interstate movement of the drug? If it's grown, sold and smoked in California only, do federal laws apply?
The_Minister wrote: » Nope - they use the interstate clause to justify the ban, but they are entitled to conduct raids even on domestic users. EDIT: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-marijuana-holder-20101016,0,5547626.story
The measure's proponents noted that Proposition 215, the medical marijuana law, drew a similar federal reaction. "This is 1996 all over again," said Stephen Gutwillig, the state director of the Drug Policy Alliance. But he noted that, besides California, 13 states and the District of Columbia now allow medical marijuana. "All that happened without a single change in federal law."
Pookah wrote: » Interesting that the federal government intend to quash the law in defiance of the will of the people, should it pass, but that's democaracy for you.
The_Minister wrote: » It's not really in defiance of the will of the people - the SC has said that regulating it is a federal power - the majority of Americans oppose legalisation.
Pookah wrote: » The 10th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution no longer applies?
The_Minister wrote: » http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzales_v._Raich
The_Minister wrote: » It's a definate possibility, but we just don't know.
RasTa wrote: » If it does, this is one I hope we follow. Think of the revenue....
Pookah wrote: » I for one will be watching the vote with keen interest. I don't believe cannabis is legal for recreational purposes anywhere in the world, though I stand to be corrected on this, which would make California the first, hopefully with others to follow, ending the current, ridiculous status quo.
If you make it legal to grow hemp in the State of California and impose punitive taxes on importation of it, then local growers will explode and the demand for dope from Mexico and Columbia will collapse - nobody will be looking to buy their overpriced, blood-soaked crap when they can get good quality stuff, homegrown and ethically produced.
RasTa wrote: » https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpVLlnQ08OA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWbXQQG9B6c
It's not really in defiance of the will of the people - the SC has said that regulating it is a federal power - the majority of Americans oppose legalisation.
Let them have a national referendum then. even though they dont even do that for the presidential elections.
snowyeoghan wrote: » Even if it passes(prop 19), the Feds will step in. Law enforcement have made their opinions clear in the past few weeks by raiding several dispensaries (that weren't in breach of any law).
San Diego County narcotics detectives, working with Santa Barbara deputies, also raided the home of James Harder on Lake Decatur Avenue. Harder, 30, is suspected of running the Helping Hands Wellness Center in San Diego as well as two other dispensaries near Santa Barbara. He has been arrested on charges of felony drug trafficking and felony money laundering
Los Angeles County sheriff's Capt. Ralph Ornelas, who oversaw Wednesday's raids, said they targeted a single group of criminals illegally making and selling cocaine, meth and marijuana at the dispensaries.
The Alternative Medicine Collective of Covina, 20050 E. Arrow Highway, Suite B, was forced to close its doors after a multi-agency task force seized its products, along with four other dispensaries in the four-county operation, Los Angeles County sheriff's officials said. No one at the Covina dispensary was arrested. Under California's Proposition 215, also known as the Compassionate Use Act of 1996, medical marijuana dispensaries are only allowed to operate as non-profits, Capt. Ralph Ornelas of the Sheriff's Narcotics Bureau said. "This organization was definitely working outside the law," he said.
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