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The Royal Academy to discuss "extra-terrestrial life and the UN agenda"

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The UN’s Mazlan Othman says she’ll be attending the conference at The Royal Society of London for the Improvement of Natural Knowledge (aka “The Royal Society“) next week. She has said that she’ll be talking about how the world deals with “near-Earth objects.”

Mazlan Othman, is the Malaysian astrophysicist who heads the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA). She has also denied rumors that she’ll be appointed the UN’s Earth Ambassador to extraterrestrials.

Discussing “near-Earth objects” sounds like an important issue. After all, an asteroid was recently detected that will pass “dangerously close” to the Earth in mid-October.

But one look at The Royal Society’s website reveals that the topic of the conference isn’t “near-Earth objects.” Rather, the title of the conference is: “Towards a scientific and societal agenda on extra-terrestrial life.”

http://royalsociety.org/extra-terrestrial-life/

Four panel debates include

Calling ET, or not even answering the phone?

Societal questions raised by the detection of extra-terrestrial life

What could studies of extra-terrestrial life tell us about the future of humanity?

Extra-terrestrial life and arising political issues for the UN agenda

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TalkieWalkie

mcmoustache wrote: »

They can be shown to apply equally to the whole universe I'm afraid. Whatever language or axioms used to express them, the same rules apply.

That is a wonderful, Human fact.

Try to think a little outside the box. :rolleyes:

alastair

TalkieWalkie wrote: »

So, evidentially someone is telling porkies and trying, though admittedly not very well, to cover it up.

Telling lies about what exactly?

It's a two-day conference, with a variety of subjects covered, and the woman who's been assigned by the UN to look after a grab bag of 'near earth' issues (and who doesn't dispute the possibility of life beyond earth - who from the scientific community does?) is participating in some form (but it's stated that her contribution will relate to her specialisation). I'm not seeing a single lie or conspiracy in any of that.

My name is URL

Those of you asking where the conspiracy is are just being anal, and you know it. This obviously ties in with a number of ongoing 'theories'.

espinolman

mcmoustache wrote: »

They can be shown to apply equally to the whole universe I'm afraid. Whatever language or axioms used to express them, the same rules apply.

They can also be shown to not apply equally to the whole universe :

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CEAQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sciencedaily.com%2Freleases%2F2010%2F09%2F100909004112.htm&rct=j&q=laws%20of%20physics&ei=5X6nTO6aBNS5jAf8ztHvDA&usg=AFQjCNHXJwwgqWZ96yrhOgVotajtk7yDIw&sig2=6WcJhhgsGxMsgzhCqr_NMQ&cad=rja

mcmoustache

Thanks espinolman. That was an interesting read. I must admit, I'm not to familiar with the fine structure constant. It's more quantum mechanical and it went a bit over my head.

Still, my point was more about the difficulty involved in sending a craft from one solar system to another in a reasonable amount of time. The laws of physics in question are special and general relativity as well as newton's laws of motion. Relativity does apply everywhere in the universe for macro-sized objects as do newton't laws for relativistically low speeds. At least, as far as my point was concerned, they apply throughout our galaxy which is where aliens are most likely to visit us from. The point is, they would need ridiculously large amounts of energy to get to relativistic speeds. As for wormholes, these are theoretically possible, but again vast amounts of energy would be required to keep them stable (several sun's worth) and I have no idea of what happens to a macroscopic sized object as it goes through. It's also worth pointing out that faster-than-light travel is impossible through(this word is important) space. The most violent explosion (supernovae) in the universe can't even accelerate a massless particle to faster than light speeds.

If there is a way for aliens to get here in a reasonable time without using magic, I'd be interested in hearing about it. (Personally, I like the wormhole idea as it doesn't involve FTL travel.)