corigi wrote: » Hey guys my girlfriend last week just gave birth to our first child.She is 22 and living at home with her parents.She is going to be taking care of the child so wont be working for the time been.I currently am in full time employment and earning 24k per year.The social welfare office have requested i write a letter with how much mainteance i am going to pay her per week? My question is how much should i tell them?? i not sure how much i should be paying as i goin to be paying for the child stuff etc and top of giving her money.I dont want to tell them too much as i dont want her social cut for no reason as we cant afford it to be cut.I dont want to tell them too little either as i dont want the hassle of them coming after me anyone with any experience dealing with this your help be much appreciated in advance.
johnnyskeleton wrote: » 1) Congradulations on becoming a father by the way. 2) When you say girlfriend you mean you current girlfriend? 3) If so, do the decent thing and get a place big enough for yourselves. Here's a nice 2 bed apartment in your location for 650pm - http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?id=726878 4) she will only get single parent allowance if she is actually a single parent. From the sounds of it she is not - she is just living with her parents to try to claim it. That sounds an awful lot like impermissible use of welfare (shall we say) to me. 5) I'm not saying that you are deliberately trying to do so - you may think that you are just trying to maximise your benefits, but be careful because if you are organising your domestic situation to maximise benefits then you could get yourself in trouble. They are clamping down on these things at the moment.
adrieanne__x wrote: » Basically, whatever you give her will be cut from her benefit... so if she is receiving 230 a week (196 + 30 [or so] for the dependant) and you give her 25 euro p/w then she will only receive 205 p/w from the social welfare. Don't defraud the state, if you are going to pay for the babies formula/nappies etc that's fine, but if you give her 50 euro a week on top of that, then tell the s/w office, it'll stand to you if you're ever investigated for anything.
corigi wrote: » Cheers for the reply missed this somehow but the answers you gave is what i was looking for.I have no intention of defrauding in any means but considering i go to pay for nappies food and other stuff i dont see why they will be cutting everything on top of that.But 25euro per week seems very low.
adrieanne__x wrote: » I was just giving it as an example, whatever you give her whether it be 25 or 50 or 100 euro will be deducted from her benefits.
analbeads wrote: » i have just looked up the social welfare website about the jobseekers and since your girlfriend has a dependant child she will automatically recieve the full rate €196 and 29.80 per child which is the same €225.80 as she would get on lone parents! and still get child benefit of €150 a month she can still live at home and her parents wont be assesed as she and the child are seen as a 'seperate family unit'. if you go the lone parent option ye will be loosing €25 a week thru the calculation of means based on you paying €50 a week maintenance. that €25 could be put aside for the little one future hope this helps
corigi wrote: » 2.Yes she is my current girlfriend.
cAr0l wrote: » But she needs to be available and looking for full time work, which you don't have to be with One Parent Family.
Sig467 wrote: » If she is your current girlfriend how is she considered a lone parent? (I'm not trying to be smart, I genuinely would like to know how that works.)
analbeads wrote: » she is seen as a lone parent as they are not married. a person can claim lone parent if they were married but have seperated or if your spouse goes to prison at one stage i think it was called unmarried mothers allownance if they move in together then she is no longer seen as a lone parent
pkav1 wrote: » Maybe you should thought about all this before you got pregnant. Thats the probelm with people now adays, have a baby and then think how much you can get outta the state or how you can afford to look after it. Anyways I hope the baby is healthy and wish you the best.
analbeads wrote: » some couples try and be as safe as can be but condoms split, the pill isnt always effective and what about girls that get raped and end up pregnant and cant support the child?
DebDynamite wrote: » Morning after pill
analbeads wrote: » dosent always work. sometimes its hard to know if the condom had a little split, if someone is on the pill then they think they are covered so do you suggest that every woman in the country takes the morning after pill every time they have protected sex? do you do that some girls cant afford to go to the doctor and pay for this pill, not everyone has a medical card a woman that was taken advantage of while drunk/passed out may not even realise that she was raped? even when a family plans to have children, they may break up or one may die leaving a lone parent that cannot fully support their kids without help from the state.
corigi wrote: » 5. I certainly aint looking to maximise our benifits i making sure we dont get robbed as far as im concerned it seems to be the people that tell the truth and try to be honest that get robbed.While other people get everything paid for them houses,fridges,tv everything while we seem not to be entitled to hardly anything based on a 24k wage?
ReanneD wrote: » If u give her anything under 150 a week it wont be deducted from her lone parents which she is certainly entitled to. Any maintainance u give her will not affect her payment but will be taken off any rent allowance she may get if she decides 2 get a place of her own. Hope dat helps
EurasianBadger wrote: » What would be wrong with this? A lot of mothers work full or partime and is not unusual and should be encouraged. Being a lone parent should not be a reason to not look for work - being a lone parent is not a life sentence or a reason to not work.
corigi wrote: » She is going to be taking care of the child so wont be working for the time been.