cherub rock wrote: » Ticketsthere, you have all this info (that seems to have bypassed us all) how? And we're to take your word because ....?
phil1nj wrote: » Can someone please square the circle for me: If MCD are saying that G'N'R deliverd a full set list as per their contract, then I'm assuming that somewhere along the line MCD stipulated a minimum amount of time they must play for to fulfill that obligation. Since the O2 is not an all night venue, then surely a start time and end time must have been mentioned somewhere along the line. What's to stop other artists pulling a strop and playing for a few minutes whenever the hell they feel like it in future? Things get even more confusing when a curfew is thrown in to the equation, surely. Just does not add up.
ticketsthere wrote: » He was about 20 mins late in Belfast but no-one up there cared, everyone had a great time at that show. Guns were incredible. Pity the same couldn't happen in Dublin, ye would have been blown away.
lordgoat wrote: » fanbois never lie. don't you know!
ticketsthere wrote: » I spoke to the head security guys beside the stage and they said the curfew was 12 last night so that's when Guns should have been finished. Start time was 21:45 according to MCD.ie which would tie in with the usual length of a Guns set.
hellboy99 wrote: » There's a big difference between 20 minutes late and near 90 minutes late, people were well annoyed and it was understandable as to why they were. The fans are not to blame for the nights outcome.
ticketsthere wrote: » I get my info from official sources and what I saw myself. Best I can do I'm afraid.
phil1nj wrote: » Curfew was 12 o'clock? It was mentioend on the last word today that the O2's car park shuts at 23.45 which kind of takes the piss out of teh punters again. This Midnight curfew figure is starting to sound like utter bollox. Someone asked the question earlier if he didn't walk off , what exactly would have happened at 11pm if they were still playing. Guess we'll never know.
f®eak s©enery wrote: » 12am was likely the "adjusted" curfew after Axl was nowhere to be found.
lord lucan wrote: » Given that the first post by Tickets There basically told most of the people who were there last night to "go f*ck themselves" i'm inclined not to listen to anything from them.http://ticketsthere.com/2010/09/02/guns-n%E2%80%99-roses-%E2%80%93-dublin-september-1st-2010-message-from-tickets-there/
Nerin wrote: » what sources do you use, out of interest?
ticketsthere wrote: » Happily admit to being a huge fan of the group, always have been. Pity there weren't a few more there last night, might have had a good show without the trouble makers. I get my info from official sources and what I saw myself. Best I can do I'm afraid.
fluke wrote: » Actually I think you'll find (in the first 4 lines) that he told all the fans in Dublin to go f*ck themselves! Real nice
cherub rock wrote: » Right... The troublemakers were CAUSED BY THE SITUATION! A situation caused by Axl and how MCD/ O2 handled it! Can you not see this??! It's not like a bunch of non G n R fans said "let's spend 70e each to throw a plastic bottle and boo!" for the craic. Feck, I was so excited about it and so let down and pissed off then that I was booing like a scumbag but he deserved it. The bigger the fan, the more insulted and the more anger I reckon.
ticketsthere wrote: » Well, I told ye my sources, can't swear by it ad that's why it's not mentioned in the review. But the O2 Carpark just had to stay open I suppose. Was it still open at 01:00am?
cherub rock wrote: » A random Garda at the o2, Xpose, FM 104 & the MCD website
ticketsthere wrote: » As I just said, I stand by that statement. I was pretty pissed off last night and I said nothing worse about the people that I'm angry at than people have been saying all day about Guns
ticketsthere wrote: » he wasn't 90 mins late, he was 40 minutes late. Any changeover from support to main act takes 30/40 minutes. Axl too another 40 mins on top of that.
ticketsthere wrote: » Depends what you're taking about? You check what I wrote and tell me which ones you want confirmed.
phil1nj wrote: » Don't know. I left at 11.15pm on the LUAS (which would not have been running at 0.50, so no chance of me collecting my car from the Red Cow car park had I stayed either) after the house lights came on and there was no band on the stage. The security guy I was talking to advised that we (me and my family) leave as the concert was now over. Probably the same guy that fed you the curfew bollix and it all now looks like no one there last night was clued in to what the plan was at that stage. A shambles of an event.
ticketsthere wrote: » As I just said, I stand by that statement. I was pretty pissed off last night and I said nothing worse about the people that I'm angry at than people have been saying all day about Guns. The review is more neutral but still written from my point of view.
ticketsthere wrote: » he wasn't 90 mins late, he was 40 minutes late. Any changeover from support to main act takes 30/40 minutes. Axl too another 40 mins on top of that. That's 80, but half the time was changing the stage set-up. Fair enough people are pissed but at least use the facts to bad mouth them.
Thats not what I was told or the people in front and behind that were all asking MCD staff in the place what time GnR were to come on, we were all told 9 - 9:15pm.
Nerin wrote: » well you just said there in your post that you use official sources, i was wondering who? pretty straight forward. I won't be checking back on your site, read it earlier when someone posted it on twitter and found your review a little rough tbh. Especially telling each and every fan to **** themselves, even though it wasn't every fan throwing **** and acting like fools.
cherub rock wrote: » That's pretty funny you should say that because I, and I know I'm not alone was shouting that very same line at him.