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Conspiracy Facts

Doge

Im setting up this thread, in order for people to share what they think are the biggest known and proven conspiracies throughout history.

Just to have something different to the usual theory threads.

Please post well known and proven conspiracies only,

The last thing i want is people posting Shapeshifting Alien Reptile Vids,

trying to claim the proof is in the video (im looking at you especially mysterious!

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So lets stick to the facts on this one okay?

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El Guapo!

LSD testing carried out by the CIA in the 50's

Operation Midnight Climax was an operation initially established by Sidney Gottlieb and placed under the direction of Narcotics Bureau officer George Hunter White under the alias of Morgan Hall for the CIA as a sub-project of Project MKULTRA, the CIA mind-control research program that began in the 1950s.
The project consisted of a web of CIA-run safehouses in San Francisco, Marin, and New York. It was established in order to study the effects of LSD on unconsenting individuals. Prostitutes on the CIA payroll were instructed to lure clients back to the safehouses, where they were surreptitiously plied with a wide range of substances, including LSD, and monitored behind one-way glass. Several significant operational techniques were developed in this theater, including extensive research into sexual blackmail, surveillance technology, and the possible use of mind-altering drugs in field operations.
The safehouses were dramatically scaled back in 1962, following a report by CIA Inspector General John Earman that strongly recommended closing the facility. The San Francisco safehouses were closed in 1965, and the New York City safehouse soon followed in 1966.
The file destruction undertaken at the order of CIA Director Richard Helms and former MKULTRA chief Sidney Gottlieb in 1972 makes a full investigation of claims impossible. However, many records did survive the purge. News of the story began to leak following a landmark story by New York Times reporter Seymour Hersh on illegal CIA domestic surveillance. This report triggered Senate Subcommittee hearings which investigated MKULTRA, and brought Operation Midnight Climax to light.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Midnight_Climax

El Guapo!

Also I suppose the watergate cover-up should be mentioned.
The article is too long to quote here so here's the wiki link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal

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Sparticle

Clerical sex abuse cover up.

uprising2

Operation Northwoods

In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.
Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

meglome

uprising2 wrote: »

Operation Northwoods

In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.
Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf

I believe he said proven conspiracy's.

Mahatma coat

may or may not Be OT
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/alligator-appears-in-new-york-city-may-have-crawled-from-sewer/story-e6frfku0-1225908854417

Alligators in the Sewers of New York

dismissed by many for years as an Urban Legend but hey, they caught one today.

[Deleted User]

"The Iran-Contra Affair was a clandestine action not approved of by the United States Congress. It began in 1985, when President Ronald Reagan's administration supplied weapons to Iran¹ — a sworn enemy — in hopes of securing the release of American hostages held in Lebanon by Hezbollah terrorists loyal to the Ayatollah Khomeini, Iran's leader...

The U.S. took millions of dollars from the weapons sale and routed them and guns to the right-wing "Contra"² guerrillas in Nicaragua."

Source: http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1889.html

alastair

uprising2 wrote: »

Operation Northwoods

In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

No they didn't - the (rejected) proposals are there to read, and no-one suggested anyone should be killed:

http://www.smeggys.co.uk/operation_northwoods.php

espinolman

waveform wrote: »

(im looking at you especially mysterious! )

mysterious has been banned from boards.ie

My name is URL

meglome wrote: »

I believe he said proven conspiracy's.

Was Operation Northwoods not a real plan put together by a group of people?

Di0genes

My name is URL wrote: »

Was Operation Northwoods not a real plan put together by a group of people?

One person, and it was never implemented.

TalkieWalkie

Good thread idea. I started one called "conspiracy to fact" a few months ago.

My name is URL

Di0genes wrote: »

One person, and it was never implemented.

Ah c'mon.. it doesn't matter one iota whether it was carried out or not. It was a conspiracy, in its purest form

Doge

espinolman wrote: »

mysterious has been banned from boards.ie

Didn't realize that, tis been a few weeks since ive checked back on here, no harm i spose.

Thanks for the replies lads, keep em coming.

Penn

My name is URL wrote: »

Ah c'mon.. it doesn't matter one iota whether it was carried out or not. It was a conspiracy, in its purest form

I agree. Whether or not it was one person or was implemented or not, it was a conspiracy to perform an act and hide the truth for their own purpose. To me, that's a conspiracy

Di0genes

My name is URL wrote: »

Ah c'mon.. it doesn't matter one iota whether it was carried out or not. It was a conspiracy, in its purest form

No under US law a Conspiracy has been defined in the as an agreement of two or more people to commit a crime, or to accomplish a legal end through illegal actions.

Now seeing as the plan was rejected, and the person who came up with the plan, was removed from their position, I'm hard pressed to see where the crime or what the conspiracy was.

Penn

Di0genes wrote: »

No under US law a Conspiracy has been defined in the as an agreement of two or more people to commit a crime, or to accomplish a legal end through illegal actions.

Now seeing as the plan was rejected, and the person who came up with the plan, was removed from their position, I'm hard pressed to see where the crime or what the conspiracy was.

Actually I think you're right, a conspiracy would have to be more than one person. But I think we're nitpicking to be honest. It was never implemented and the person was fired

gbee

Di0genes wrote: »

One person, and it was never implemented.

Erm, 911,

My name is URL

Di0genes wrote: »

No under US law a Conspiracy has been defined in the as an agreement of two or more people to commit a crime, or to accomplish a legal end through illegal actions.

Now seeing as the plan was rejected, and the person who came up with the plan, was removed from their position, I'm hard pressed to see where the crime or what the conspiracy was.

The plan was proposed by senior U.S. Department of Defense leaders, including the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Lyman Louis Lemnitzer.

So only conspiracies which come to fruition are conspiracies in your opinion? I'm pretty sure the conspiracy happens before the action

Here's the document btw- http://www.smeggys.co.uk/operation_northwoods.php?image=01#tt

alastair

gbee wrote: »

Erm, 911,

Erm, nope.

gizmo

gbee wrote: »

Erm, 911,

OP said known and proven...

Di0genes

gbee wrote: »

Erm, 911,

So you're saying the dusted off a 60 year plan, from 8 administrations beforehand, which only resembles Northwoods in that it mentions Airplanes, and thats proof that 911 was an inside job?

gbee

Di0genes wrote: »

So you're saying the dusted off a 60 year plan, from 8 administrations beforehand, which only resembles Northwoods in that it mentions Airplanes, and thats proof that 911 was an inside job?

It displays the mindset of American administrations which would allow or administer directly a 'terrorist' attack on its own people so as to rouse those peoples into agreeing to fight the enemy that was blamed for causing the atrocities.

It's been proven that the UK and the USA have had a series of such events, the UK in particular has a 900 year history hallmarked by this modus operandi.

meglome

gbee wrote: »

It displays the mindset of American administrations which would allow or administer directly a 'terrorist' attack on its own people so as to rouse those peoples into agreeing to fight the enemy that was blamed for causing the atrocities.

Em but they sacked the guy, not what you'd call a ringing endorsement of his plan.

gbee wrote: »

It's been proven that the UK and the USA have had a series of such events, the UK in particular has a 900 year history hallmarked by this modus operandi.

Proven... I must have missed them. Which were they?

alastair

gbee wrote: »

the UK in particular has a 900 year history hallmarked by this modus operandi.

Where did they get the planes back then? And where has the additional 700 years of UK history sprung from?

[Deleted User]

gbee wrote: »

It displays the mindset of American administrations which would allow or administer directly a 'terrorist' attack on its own people so as to rouse those peoples into agreeing to fight the enemy that was blamed for causing the atrocities.

Except Operation Northwoods was to involve drones and unmanned ships, no American citizens where going to be killed.
And it was still rejected outright.
And that was during the height of the cold war.

Also it wasn't the administration's idea.
It was one guy who was promptly removed from his position.

And then the documents where made publicly available.

So do you really think it is evidence for an inside job?

My name is URL

King Mob wrote: »

Except Operation Northwoods was to involve drones and unmanned ships, no American citizens where going to be killed.
And it was still rejected outright.
And that was during the height of the cold war.

Also it wasn't the administration's idea.
It was one guy who was promptly removed from his position.

And then the documents where made publicly available.

They were only made fully public in April 2001..

No American civilians were going to be killed..? Is this supposed to make it better? They planned a systematic reign of terror in numerous cities across the US!

Yes it was rejected, but only by the President.. who's advisers were the ones that came up with the plan in the first place! And it wasn't one guys plan, it was the plan of many senior DoD members, and was presented by a Joint Chief of Staff who was denied a further term because of it. The same guy went on to command US forces in Europe.

Mahatma coat

Gulf of tonkin false Flag

all these things eventually come out in the wash, then you will get people claimin they knew all along

[Deleted User]

My name is URL wrote: »

They were only made fully public in April 2001..

You mean five months before they were planning to do it again?
Really?

My name is URL wrote: »

No American civilians were going to be killed..? Is this supposed to make it better? They planned a systematic reign of terror in numerous cities across the US!

So you notice the difference then?

My name is URL wrote: »

Yes it was rejected, but only by the President.. who's advisers were the ones that came up with the plan in the first place! And it wasn't one guys plan, it was the plan of many senior DoD members, and was presented by a Joint Chief of Staff who was denied a further term because of it. The same guy went on to command US forces in Europe.

So it was rejected and the guy was removed from his position, even though the plan didn't involve killing anyone and was during the height of the cold war?

uprising2

Di0genes wrote: »

No under US law a Conspiracy has been defined in the as an agreement of two or more people to commit a crime, or to accomplish a legal end through illegal actions.

Now seeing as the plan was rejected, and the person who came up with the plan, was removed from their position, I'm hard pressed to see where the crime or what the conspiracy was.

King Mob wrote: »

Except Operation Northwoods was to involve drones and unmanned ships, no American citizens where going to be killed.
And it was still rejected outright.
And that was during the height of the cold war.

Also it wasn't the administration's idea.
It was one guy who was promptly removed from his position.

And then the documents where made publicly available.

So do you really think it is evidence for an inside job?

It wasn't one guy, it was approved by the DOD and Joint chief's of Staff, JFK rejected it, and he (Lemnitzer) was appointed as Commander of U.S. Forces in Europe, and as Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, here take a look.

Lemnitzer approved the plans known as Operation Northwoods in 1962, a proposed plan to discredit the Castro regime and create support for military action against Cuba by staging false flag genuine acts of terrorism and developing "a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington". Lemnitzer presented the plans to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13, 1962. It is unclear how McNamara reacted, but three days later President Kennedy told the general that there was no chance that America would take military action against Cuba. Within a few months, after the denial of Operation Northwoods, Lemnitzer was denied another term as JCS chairman.[1]
In November 1962, Lemnitzer was appointed as Commander of U.S. Forces in Europe, and as Supreme Allied Commander of NATO (the US European Command is the crown jewel of regional commands) in January 1963.[2] This period encompassed the Cyprus crisis of 1963-1964 and the withdrawal of NATO forces from France in 1966
Lemnitzer retired from the military in July 1969. In 1975, President Ford appointed Lemnitzer to the Commission on CIA Activities within the United States (aka the Rockefeller Commission) to investigate whether the Central Intelligence Agency had committed acts that violated American laws and allegations that E. Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis (of Watergate fame) were involved in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyman_Lemnitzer

Operation Northwoods, or Northwoods, was a false-flag plan that originated within the United States government in 1962. The plan called for Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) or other operatives to commit genuine acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere. These acts of terrorism were to be blamed on Cuba in order to create public support for a war against that nation, which had recently become communist under Fidel Castro. One part of the Operation Northwoods plan was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington."
Operation Northwoods included proposals for hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. The plan stated:
"The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

You fella's are in a bad state of denial!, it was/is a conspiracy, and a proven one at that, sorry for upsetting/waking you's, but don't argue for the sake of arguing, you look stupid.

Had JFK approved the plan it would have been put into action, all below him thought it was a great idea, not just one person, IT'S A CONSPIRACY.