Cabaal wrote: » I'm actually surprised nobody's mentioned this, I was listening to the last word on Today FM the other day and they discussed new Tesco that are opening around the country. one of the new stores they mentioned was Tesco in Ballybeg in Waterford which is due to create about 120 jobs, very logically people txt in saying why are they building a Tesco in Ballybeg when you got three in Waterford already and one of them is only about 2km frm Ballybeg already. If Tesco do open its sounds like they are trying to crowd out any other stores in Waterford in much the same way as Dunnes Stores have done for years in Kilkenny. Also won't opening a new store in Ballybeg only further detract from people coming into the center of the city? imho it doesn't make sense that the council don't want the likes of TK Maxx outside of the city but its ok to open yet another Tesco which would further detract from the city center AND affect the business of Lisduggen (not just the Tesco in Lisduggen either). Surely such a move is counterproductive to any existing stores in and around the 2km radius of ballybeg?
gscully wrote: » Isn't it about time that Ballybeg had something go their way? With all the negative press they get there, wouldn't it be great if this development actually looked nice, was looked after and attracted people from outside Ballybeg? You've also got the catchment areas of Templars Hall, Butlerstown, Carraig An Ard and Foxwood. Let's face it, the Waterford Shopping Centre (Lisduggan) is a hole and is scheduled for demolition and reconstruction, should Frisby have his way, so why not Ballybeg? I don't see how this would make people avoid town either, as you've already intimated that they go to Lisduggan.
fricatus wrote: » The likes of clothes, jewellery, cosmetics, and the more specialised electronics, books, games and CDs, etc., should be sold in the city centre, because of their high value, small size, and a need for a concentration of options.
Cabaal wrote: » Tesco can and do sell all of the above, so by selling these items its affecting business in the city as people would likely go into town to get these items
gscully wrote: » Yes, but not in a specialised way like Fricatus referred to. They sell cosmetics, but have no experts like Debenhams have. They don't sell jewellery, just accessories. The electronics are bargain-basement stuff and again, no experts to tell you anything about them. Book shops and Record / CD shops have always been a part of local shopping in Waterford. Lisduggan had Books 'n' Things and BPM (Five-O before that?).
mike65 wrote: » What is the story with Lisduggan? I remember the plans which involved with bank site next door and all sorts of goodness being promised.
Cabaal wrote: » Its still going to take business from the city center either way you look at it though
jonnyfingers wrote: » I don't think it will have a huge impact really. I live next to Tesco Lisduggan but shop in Tesco Ardkeen as Lisduggan is pretty crap. I will probably go to the new one when it's built instead of Ardkeen as Ballybeg is closer. There's nothing that I buy in town that I will be going to the new tesco to get instead. If anything if I was buying things in Tesco instead of town already I'd just be buying it at a different tesco. So they'd mostly be taking business from their own stores.
dayshah wrote: » I'm not so worried about taking business from the city centre. How many people travel to the city centre to do their grocery shopping? Perhaps some people go to Dunnes in City Square and take the bus back. With the new houses that were built I think Ballybeg can sustain a supermaket (where exactly should it go?). Given that its not in the centre (and sorry to anyone from there, but an ugly part of the city) I willing to say that if a company wants to take the risk of building a place, let them. I think the more serious issue is that Tescos are trying to put a ring of supermarkets around Waterford to stifle competition like Dunnes do in other places. But we can't really force Supervalue or someone to open one in Ballybeg.
nkay1985 wrote: » Well competition is always a good thing but would Tesco not have national pricing rather than local? I suppose I'm asking how would Tesco having a monopoly in the city affect the consumer. Or are you worried that it causes small businesses to close down in the way that Walmart does in America?
wmpdd3 wrote: » Who said Lisduggan shopping center is due for demolition? Have they applied for planning permission?
THall04 wrote: » Saddens me to see Tesco Lisduggan turn into such a kip (used to work there) but I go out of my way to shop in Ardkeen............will be shopping in Ballybeg now as soon as it opens.
The existing ‘Waterford Shopping Centre’ which has been in situ since the 70s, will be demolished in stages and a bigger and better version will be built stretching from the site of the neighbouring Bank of Ireland off Paddy Browne’s Road, which will be knocked. There’ll be 32 shopping units including larger stores for anchor tenants Tesco and Heatons, three restaurants, two banks (a new BOI and TSB), a new library space, two retail warehouses and a total of 907 car parking spaces.“The design remains essentially the same as approved by Waterford City Council with some minor changes to traffic circulation which are acceptable,” said Noel Frisby. “In limiting the scale of the centre to that appropriate to a district centre as defined in the retail guidelines, the Board would seem to have laid down a firm marker for any future proposals for retail developments outside of Waterford city centre.”
gscully wrote: » We'd be better served getting rid of some of the crap shops in the city centre. I was in John Roberts Sq this morning, and one of the more noticeable shops there was a bright yellow 'Cash For Gold' shop. There's a place for shops like that, and smack bang in the middle of the centre is not it! :mad:
