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The 7/7 Bombings

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Today marks the 5th aniversary of the 7/7 bombings in London. What were your thoughts and reactions to this when it happened? Do you think something like this is going to happen again any time soon?

For me it really hit home, as a friend of mine's Dad lost somebody he knew in the bombings. I think it actually frightened me a lot more than 911, being a lot closer to home. I can remember first hearing about it from a somebody I knew and thinking it was a joke, and then turning on the news.

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thebigbiffo

dara o'brien put it best. to paraphrase:

londoner 1: "**** man, they've just blown up 3 trains on the london underground and a bus"
londoner 2: "**** man, that's f'uckin awful...but i guess if i walked to hammersmith road, taxi'd to the green line and then walked the rest of the way i could be home in time for my tea"

basically, what he was getting at was that - in no small part thanks to the irish - most people living there just took it as another inconvienience.

9/11 was worse

My name is URL

stovelid wrote: »

I nearly felt sorry for them until my whataboutery module sprung into action. Then I spent the morning haranguing people on the emergency helplines about the victims of Cromwell.

No offense but why do you so often resort to those type of comments even though nobody is hinting towards holding any feelings of schadenfreude about the bombings? It's like you're battling some invisible man with an invisible chip on his shoulder

stovelid

My name is URL wrote: »

No offense r

None taken.

Pauleta

A terrible tragedy and an attack on freedom on not just the people of the London but the rest of the civilised, democratic world.

who the fug

Pauleta wrote: »

A terrible tragedy and an attack on freedom on not just the people of the London but the rest of the civilised, democratic world.

Steady remember this is London

GavRedKing

Sad loss of life alright but it isnt nearly as bad as 9/11.

I think at the time my reaction was, pffft it isnt as bad as what happened in America.

Still sad none the less.

The_Kew_Tour

thebigbiffo wrote: »

dara o'brien put it best. to paraphrase:

londoner 1: "**** man, they've just blown up 3 trains on the london underground and a bus"
londoner 2: "**** man, that's f'uckin awful...but i guess if i walked to hammersmith road, taxi'd to the green line and then walked the rest of the way i could be home in time for my tea"

basically, what he was getting at was that - in no small part thanks to the irish - most people living there just took it as another inconvienience.

9/11 was worse

Try telling that to the families who lost somebody or the victims of life long injuries as a result of bombings

[Deleted User]

I remember I was wearing a blue jumper that day.

Run_to_da_hills

5 years is a long time, we should be due another false flag attack by now. :rolleyes:

Jay P

I was in Irish college, so I didn't hear about it until the next day. I was shocked...but moved on I guess

To be honest, I reacted more to the attempted liquid bombings. We're still not allowed bring our own water on the feckin planes now thanks to that.

Run_to_da_hills

Jay P wrote: »

I was in Irish college, so I didn't hear about it until the next day. I was shocked...but moved on I guess

To be honest, I reacted more to the attempted liquid bombings. We're still not allowed bring our own water on the feckin planes now thanks to that.

Each new false flag attack ushers in more intrusive restrictions.

First it was 9/11 introduced the global microchipped passport and tighter security.

7/7 ushered in sofisticated CCTV across the London transport system and also pushed the promotion of electronic smart cards.

The so called liquid bombers banned us from bringing mineral water on board,

The so called Detroit bomber ushered in harmful backscatter XRay machines.

What will be next?

tman

My mate (flatmate at the time) was worried sick because his girlfriend was over in London on a business trip when it happened.

You kind of forget about it after a while, but for the first few months I lived in London it was always in the back of my mind every time I got on a bus/tube

[Deleted User]

It's always on my mind. I'm claustrophobic anyway, I've never liked the tiny trains and tunnels and when that happened it didn't do much to ease my mind. I still use the Tube but I do really hate it.

monkeypants

I was lucky not to have been on the tube that morning, passing through Edgware road. Not for the first time in my life I woke up to a bunch of missed calls from people wondering if I was okay. At the time I was completely oblivious to what had happened.

mathie

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Each new false flag attack ushers in more intrusive restrictions.

First it was 9/11 introduced the global microchipped passport and tighter security.

7/7 ushered in sofisticated CCTV across the London transport system and also pushed the promotion of electronic smart cards.

The so called liquid bombers banned us from bringing mineral water on board,

The so called Detroit bomber ushered in harmful backscatter XRay machines.

What will be next?

Jim Corr unveiled as Taoiseach?

Run_to_da_hills

monkeypants wrote: »

I was lucky not to have been on the tube that morning, passing through Edgware road. Not for the first time in my life I woke up to a bunch of missed calls from people wondering if I was okay. At the time I was completely oblivious to what had happened.

I was stuck at Stratford and had to walk most of the way out to zone 4 as most of the busses were either packed or cancelled.

thebigbiffo

adrian280582 wrote: »

Try telling that to the families who lost somebody or the victims of life long injuries as a result of bombings

well he did use the joke as a regular part of his act in a weeks long run at the Apollo...in london....as well as all around the UK...

maybe they just have a sense of humour?

KevR

Jay P wrote: »

I was in Irish college, so I didn't hear about it until the next day. I was shocked...but moved on I guess

To be honest, I reacted more to the attempted liquid bombings. We're still not allowed bring our own water on the feckin planes now thanks to that.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Each new false flag attack ushers in more intrusive restrictions.

First it was 9/11 introduced the global microchipped passport and tighter security.

7/7 ushered in sofisticated CCTV across the London transport system and also pushed the promotion of electronic smart cards.

The so called liquid bombers banned us from bringing mineral water on board,

The so called Detroit bomber ushered in harmful backscatter XRay machines.

What will be next?

You can buy water or whatever drink you want after you pass through security and bring it on the plane. Yes, it is annoying having to buy these things after security (usually more expensive than usual) but it's certainly overly dramatic to say you can't bring water on a plane full stop.

Trashbat

thebigbiffo wrote: »

well he did use the joke as a regular part of his act in a weeks long run at the Apollo...in london....as well as all around the UK...

maybe they just have a sense of humour?

This is true.

Also, There's alot less sensationalism and victim complex going on with Londoners (or indeed UK and Ireland in general). I remember an American saying how brave the people of london were for carrying on and going beck to work the day after. I am of the opinion people went back to work because it was their job and they had to.

While of course its sad for people who lost someone, the majorily of people in London and the UK were only effected by the travel disruption, and maybe a little bit of fear. 9/11 seemed like an excuse for a lot of Americans (politicians and ordinary citizens alike) to live vicariously through other people's grief*.

*and then use that grief to go and start wars

bullpost

Hmmm - Now why am I reminded of the outpouring of collective grief over the death of Princess Di ?

Trashbat wrote: »

While of course its sad for people who lost someone, the majorily of people in London and the UK were only effected by the travel disruption, and maybe a little bit of fear. 9/11 seemed like an excuse for a lot of Americans (politicians and ordinary citizens alike) to live vicariously through other people's grief.

r3nu4l

thebigbiffo wrote: »

well he did use the joke as a regular part of his act in a weeks long run at the Apollo...in london....as well as all around the UK...

maybe they just have a sense of humour?

Indeed and Dara usually prefaces the joke by saying something along the lines of:

'I love the unstoppable spirit of Londoners when faced with a crisis...' then launches into the joke, so he's in fact paying a big compliment to people in London.

In fairness too, he's right. I remember the day well and everyone in the office was just planning their trip home and trying to work out the best routes. When I heard that Liverpool street station mainline was opening at 4 I made sure I was there. There were huge crowds waiting for the station to open. It did strike me that it would have been a perfect opportunity for a second wave of suicide attacks...

Sunnyisland

I was on working in an english restaurant in the south of spain and all the customers were blaming the f****** Irish,
The next day it was moved to the f****** muslims

Wolfe Tone

Personally I think it may only be a matter of time before the RIRA or the CIRA do something. A number of rather large bombs have been found before they were detonated in the north.

Dravokivich

r3nu4l wrote: »

It did strike me that it would have been a perfect opportunity for a second wave of suicide attacks...

That's the thing with suicide squads... no second wave of attack...

Sunnyisland

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

Personally I think it may only be a matter of time before the RIRA or the CIRA do something. A number of rather large bombs have been found before they wee detonated in the north.

I agree its only a matter of time before something big goes of up there,
i have also heard that loyalists were planing to hit dublin in retaliation.

Run_to_da_hills

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

Personally I think it may only be a matter of time before the RIRA or the CIRA do something. A number of rather large bombs have been found before they were detonated in the north.

It is a hell of a lot more difficult for paramilitaries to operate now than it ever was 30 years ago. Almost every town in the north has now got automated number plate tracking (ANPR) CCTV, street corner cams along with mobile phone surveylance. Any irregularities would raise suspicions. I would honestly believe if there was to be a "major" in the north it would almost certainly be an inside job.

r3nu4l

Dravokivich wrote: »

That's the thing with suicide squads... no second wave of attack...

Aha, I see what you did there :pac: ...just in case someone doesn't understand, I meant a second team of suicide bombers...

realies wrote: »

I agree its only a matter of time before something big goes of up there,
i have also heard that loyalists were planing to hit dublin in retaliation.

I heard that Mary Joyce's sister, you know, the one with the limp, was seeing that fella Paddy Mahon from the village, the fella with the twisty eye. His sister was married to that fella...

Wolfe Tone

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

It is a hell of a lot more difficult for paramilitaries to operate now than it ever was 30 years ago. Almost every town in the north has now got automated number plate tracking (ANPR) CCTV, street corner cams along with mobile phone surveylance. Any irregularities would raise suspicions. I would honestly believe if there was to be a "major" in the north it would almost certainly be an inside job.

Indeed, here are some examples of what I was on about, all in the last year or so.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/northernireland/6156049/Bomb-found-in-Northern-Ireland.html
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0618/tyrone.html
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/International/2010/06/18/Massive-bomb-found-in-van-in-N-Ireland/UPI-57031276894803/

Although most seem to be aimed at police. And one or two went off a while back. The threat is there.

Trashbat

bullpost wrote: »

Hmmm - Now why am I reminded of the outpouring of collective grief over the death of Princess Di ?

Very different thing. You have to compare like to like. The Cult of Celebrity is very powerful.

What I was talking about was people grieving for people who they didn't know, who's names they'd never heard of.

A sense of loss when a public figure dies is natural, but for anonymous strangers?

stovelid

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

Personally I think it may only be a matter of time before the RIRA or the CIRA do something. A number of rather large bombs have been found before they were detonated in the north.

Hopefully they'll follow the James McDaid operational bomb procedure.