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Bringing your own alcohol to pubs!

pampers1

Hi people this is my first time posting in AH (I think). Just wondering what everyone thinks of people bringing their own alcohol to the pubs with them. Naggin's of vodka etc. I did it for the first time 3 weeks ago and saved an absolute fortune. I'm still a bit weary of being caught and turfed out with a nice embarassed head on me but Just wondering if its something that's done on a regular basis by loads of people. Apparently its all the rage.

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Cupcake_Crisis

It depends where i'm going out. If im just going to my local i wont bring anything in as its only €3 pints. But if im off into town ill bring in a sneaky naggin to help me on my way.

Angron

Roselyn Hundreds Train wrote: »

I don't know tbh, They sell small bottles alright around 50ml I think but don't remember seeing naggins (I presume they do exist some where). Naggins of captain morgan are fairly rare too, unless places have started stocking them more now.

Yeah, a Centra near me has Morgans, but they are labelled as being "brand new", so they must have just started doing them.

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Denny M wrote: »

I've come across naggins of Morgans, but I was never aware there was naggins of Jager. Do they definitely exist?

I don't know tbh, They sell small bottles alright around 50ml I think but don't remember seeing naggins (I presume they do exist some where). Naggins of captain morgan are fairly rare too, unless places have started stocking them more now.

Angron

Roselyn Hundreds Train wrote: »

Naggins of jager or captain morgan are hard to come by.

I've come across naggins of Morgans, but I was never aware there was naggins of Jager. Do they definitely exist?

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Jigga wrote: »

Where would be the best place to buy a hip-flask? Argos sell them around €20, anywhere know any places cheaper?

Shops that sell supplies for things like fishing and shooting usually have the best selection, I paid around 12 euro for mine. Ebay is cheaper if you dont mind the wait, not sure about quality though. A 7oz one is the best size. Its holds 200ml (same as a naggin) but fits perfectly in your pocket, its no worse than a phone or you wallet when you get used to it. 6oz is a bit small and 8oz are a bit awkward.

People may ask why use a hip flask and not just buy a naggin, well a naggin is a pain in your pocket with the big cap also buying big bottles (especially if you get them abroad) is a lot cheaper than naggins, its also gives you a better selection. Naggins of jager or captain morgan are hard to come by.

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Eh, no, I said its what I wouldn't want to think of myself doing, as that's how I view others who do it, and wouldn't want to be a cheap ass knacker.

I would say you are in a tiny minority though. If aI see someone doing it I think they are smart, people who see me doing it say fair play. Its not the reserve of students either. All my friends do it from time to time and we are all working some in good jobs.

Dublin_Gunner

Ozil wrote: »

Well if you are afraid what people think of you, or the image they have of you, and change your behaviour to accomodate that - then that is insecurity. What does it matter what other people think of you?

Eh, no, I said its what I wouldn't want to think of myself doing, as that's how I view others who do it, and wouldn't want to be a cheap ass knacker.

Jigga wrote: »

Where would be the best place to buy a hip-flask? Argos sell them around €20, anywhere know any places cheaper?

Buy one?? Just make one, or bring a brown paper bag.

Jigga

Where would be the best place to buy a hip-flask? Argos sell them around €20, anywhere know any places cheaper?

Ozil

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Its exactly how I'd view others doing it, hence I wouldn't do it myself. Nothing to do with insecurity.

Well if you are afraid what people think of you, or the image they have of you, and change your behaviour to accomodate that - then that is insecurity. What does it matter what other people think of you?

El Horseboxo

I'll do it in nightclub on occasion. If i've been out in a pub paying over a fiver a pint and then moving on to a club i'll buy a naggin of rum. I mix rum with water so i don't have to pay for a mixer. Love the aul agua mala's.

Dublin_Gunner

Ozil wrote: »

That's your own insecurity then, personally I couldn't give a damn how I'm "looked upon".

Nothing to do with insecurity. You go to the pub to enjoy the atmosphere, meet your friends, drink the drinks there etc

Its exactly how I'd view others doing it, hence I wouldn't do it myself. Nothing to do with insecurity.

Ozil

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

I in no way would want to be looked upon as a cheapskate/nacker/bum or whatever.

That's your own insecurity then, personally I couldn't give a damn how I'm "looked upon".

Dublin_Gunner

If I can't afford to go to the pub to meet my friends - I stay in.

Its a pretty simple solution.

I in no way would want to be looked upon as a cheapskate/nacker/bum or whatever.

Students and oul wans seem to do this the most.

If the pub you're meeting in is particularly expensive, go to a different pub. Simple.

Capt'n Midnight - you Excise and VAT is all well and good, but they do have to make a profit you know. There is possibly rent, rates, salarys etc etc to all be accounted for in the price of the drinks.

I'm not saying some places aren't a rip off, but the vast majority are not.

**edit, and people moan about the price of drink today.

Well I just did a little bit of research there.

In 1997, I remember paying around £2.20 for a pint of Carlsberg (may have been £2.17 or whatever). Using an inflation calculator, this would work out at about £3.45 today

http://www.anthonykelly.com/inflation.html (uses prices of Guinness throughout the years to give an indication)

If using the current exchange rate between £stg and €, this works out around €4.19 (using that as £stg/£Ir were virtually identical).

If using the old €1.27 per £1 during the change over (which is not applicable now) it would be €4.38

We're not really paying much more for a pint these days, are we?

Capt'n Midnight

Excise Duty http://www.revenue.ie/en/about/foi/s16/excise/budget-2010-excise-rates-manual.pdf

SPIRITS €31.13 per litre of alcohol
(so a litre of something 40% alcohol there would be €12.452 ie 40% of €31.13 - for 750ml the duty would be €9.339)

BEER
less than 1.2% vol = €0.00

Home Produced Beer exceeding 1.2% vol but not exceeding 2.8% vol, on which the tax is paid by the producer = €7.85 per hectolitre per cent of alcohol in the beer
The idea was to get people to drink lower alcohol drinks. I think this is just for microbreweries or does it apply to the big ones too ? - it works out at a maximum duty of 12.5c per pint, you'd think the publicans would be grateful enough to sell more of the stuff since they are always blaiming tax take for high prices.

All Other Beer
€15.71 per hectolitre per cent of alcohol in the beer
1 pint = 0.568 L = 0.00568 hectolitre so it's 8.92c per % per pint

4% means the excise duty on that pint is 35.7c
4.5% is 40.2c / 5% = 44.6c duty

Publicans are pestering government to reduce the tax on drink , the truth is that Excise duty is less than 10% the price of a pint you could probably save that much by going to the next pub.

VAT at 21% is the main tax on drink and publicans can claim some of that back against their spending. I can't see the government reducing tax on drink when the publicans aren't cutting in to their 70-75% take.

BTW
The current price for barley is about €100 per tonne and you can make a lot of pints from 1,000Kg of barley so raw materials cost to breweries per pint hardly figures in the pub price.

And they still charge more for the soft drinks :mad: :mad: :mad:

Mini Driver

even when people bring in the sneaky naggin, they still have to pay for coke, 7up etc which costs about €3 so its not like the pub gets nothing and people genuinely wouldn't do it if the prices were reasonable

jackiebaron

Tigger wrote: »

bluewolf are you forgien?

Probably just a raging stick in the mud. You know....one of those people who has a crippling fear that someone, somewhere might be enjoying themselves.

Kiith

Rojo25 wrote: »

If you wanna go the pub, dont be mean and buy a drink, thats the point of a pub.

If you want people to go to your pub, dont me mean and dont rip them off.

Rojo25

Nothing better then a cool smooth pint that wasnt poured by yourself in a haphazard manner on the kitchen counter, straight into a immaculately clean glass from the publicans tap.

The thought of going into a pub, with some vodka hidden away all dry and warm in your pocket, sneaking it out to put in a poorly mixed fashion into your glass of coke, gastley sh*t

If you wanna go the pub, dont be mean and buy a drink, thats the point of a pub.

Capt'n Midnight

Roselyn Hundreds Train wrote: »

But the pubs wouldnt exist without alcohol as people don't drink 10 pints of coke .

I'd have no problem drinking that much non-caffeinated soft drinks.

I hate pints of blackcurrent (price varies from 70c to €2.00, and occasionally free ) as it's usually very watery.

If I buy beer in a supermarket it's about €3/L, for soft drinks it's as little as 50c/L (far less if you go for generic bands )but in a pub they are the same price. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Kiith

I've brought drink into pubs. Simply to save me money. I dont do it very often, usually just as a cheap alternative to getting utterly shafted by most pubs in Dublin. When you stop charging €5.50 for a crappy pint and €3.50 for a small coke, then i'll start giving you my money.

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

And in the case of the popcorn less salty :mad::mad::mad:

Never! If you can still feel your tongue after a large popcorn, its not salty enough :P

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Jigga wrote: »

How do people actually get away with it? Bringing your drink into the jacks with you as you top up with your naggin/hip-flask would look very suspicious.

Its very easy in a busy late bar or club which is where you would be doing it anyway, I wouldn't even bother going to the jacks, Hiding in plane sight is the best option and if you do want to use the jacks everyone brings their drinks in anyway so nothing strange.

At the bar is one of the best places especially if you have help. Both people lean against the bar and chat away, with the crowd all around, one holds the glass below bar level and the other person pours, then vice versa for the other persons drink, pour you mixer and away you go.

Its very easy when you get used to it, I have been very blatant on occasion and still not been noticed.

Capt'n Midnight

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Well the cinema probably doesnt want you there then, as far as I know one of their main streams of revenue is drink and beverages as they get high profit margins fromt hese and less from ticket sales.

AFAIK a cinema breaks even on box office.
Profit is made from the food.

I'd buy a lot more food if it was affordable.
And in the case of the popcorn less salty :mad::mad::mad:

There is a trade off between making less profit per customer and having more customers. For near zero incrimental production costs like music industry and popcorn machines I think they would make more by reducing the price and having more customers.

Pity popcorn is so bulky other wise would be easier to smuggle in

aidcor

true

Jigga

How do people actually get away with it? Bringing your drink into the jacks with you as you top up with your naggin/hip-flask would look very suspicious.

Angron

I've never bothered with bringing my own drink into a pub, just not too keen on the idea. I had a few friends do it, but that was only 2 or 3 times. And it wasn't even a naggin, it was those really small bottles.

thebullkf

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

the next time the people that bring their own drink to pubs go would they like to make a small donation towards the following:

wages
electricity
insurance
heating
subscription to sports channels
water charges
waste charges
misc. charges (toilet paper, air freshner, glasses, mats, etc..)

give over ffs.

if its such a burden , why do it?

cos pubs make a fookin fortune thats why:rolleyes:

no value in pubs (in dublin anyway)

down the sticks when i was working in small-medium towns i'd go out midweek for a few, smaller pubs would throw you out a sambo
or a few chips,cocktail sausages--wasn't every night and wasn't every pub.
but i swear to christ,the next time i worked in that town,nay near that town.
i'd make it my mission to drop in for a few scoops,or if i wasn't stayin over for A sambo,cordial,7up etc.

just to give them a bit of business.give a little back

people have forgotten
,its much harder to get rid of a bad name
than to earn a good one.

example: i live beside 3 pub's-don't go near 'em.

beaumont house=ignorant swine of an owner,saw him roaring @ a woman and child "....i own the FOCKING pub,i'll park where i want...".because she chastised him for parking outside a parking bay.{she didn't know him from adam-he ended up blocking her access to the babyseat}

the poor woman was near tears-i haven't been back since,neither have my family,extended family or friends.
thats approx 6 years now.and i drink fairly regular and a group of 10 or more used to have sunday dinner there,as well as meet ups,birthdays etc.
thats in excess of 54k he's missed out on.
{based on 10 people @ 10e a head every sunday plus approx 20 pints@3.80-4.00e a pint=9k a year just on Sundays!!}

Comet=neeeds a refurb.toilets desperate.
not a bad pint in it though.

Swiss Cottage=poor quality Guinness,mayhem on a matchday/sunday with all sorts of shams,gardaí inevitably get called.

publicans need to re-introduce value.

the goblet does all pints 4e up till 6pm every day.

thats a bit of value-no

cruiser178

pampers1 wrote: »

Hi people this is my first time posting in AH (I think). Just wondering what everyone thinks of people bringing their own alcohol to the pubs with them. Naggin's of vodka etc. I did it for the first time 3 weeks ago and saved an absolute fortune. I'm still a bit weary of being caught and turfed out with a nice embarassed head on me but Just wondering if its something that's done on a regular basis by loads of people. Apparently its all the rage.

Bring it,bring as much as you can,stash it in your pantys your knickers your yfronts your boxers.fcukin publicans,got enough off us in the boom years and are still trying to get it off us.

what ever saves you money.do it!!!

spacetweek

bluewolf wrote: »

So you think the good times in life are at the bottom of a glass?

Sorry man, can you hear me all the way up there on your high horse?

okioffice84 wrote: »

I run a pub in Dublin city centre I've reduced prices hugely over a year ago (we're 3.60 a pint, all pints all the time- not just crappy brands either)
Before we reduced the prices we were already the cheapest around. I just thought that people were being screwed by extra tax and reduced wages etc. and could no longer afford to go to the pub much. Even now though people still bring in their own drink into the bar. It's extremely frustrating to try and offer people the best value possible, keep the premises at a decent standard, no cover charge, pay the staff decent wages and still people try to screw you by bringing in their own drink...:mad::mad::mad:

Where's your pub? I certainly wouldn't dream of bringing drink into it if yer only charging 3.60 a pint. This was my impetus in bringing naggins in - to force the pubs to lower extortionate prices.

okioffice84

I run a pub in Dublin city centre I've reduced prices hugely over a year ago (we're 3.60 a pint, all pints all the time- not just crappy brands either)
Before we reduced the prices we were already the cheapest around. I just thought that people were being screwed by extra tax and reduced wages etc. and could no longer afford to go to the pub much. Even now though people still bring in their own drink into the bar. It's extremely frustrating to try and offer people the best value possible, keep the premises at a decent standard, no cover charge, pay the staff decent wages and still people try to screw you by bringing in their own drink...:mad::mad::mad:

admiralofthefleet

Roselyn Hundreds Train wrote: »

The night club cover charge, mixers and the inevitable shots at the end of the night are plenty of a donation as far as I'm concerned.

i was talking about a pub. nightclubs deserve all the crap they get

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admiralofthefleet wrote: »

the next time the people that bring their own drink to pubs go would they like to make a small donation towards the following:

wages
electricity
insurance
heating
subscription to sports channels
water charges
waste charges
misc. charges (toilet paper, air freshner, glasses, mats, etc..)

The night club cover charge, mixers and the inevitable shots at the end of the night are plenty of a donation as far as I'm concerned.