monument wrote: » Press release is here: http://www.irishrail.ie/news_centre/news.asp?action=view&news_id=824 That seems to be pritty much what was sent in the email to media outlets. Once one media outlet makes a mistake, many others often follow. The release does say something about linking intercity, but it's very general: "Crucially, DART Underground will link all rail systems- DART, Commuter, InterCity, Luas and Metro- to form an integrated and seamless transport network that will treble the numbers travelling on the Greater Dublin rail system to over 100 million passengers journeys annually." Journalists have an amazing ability to try to be an expert in too much and end up not having a clue what they are talking about.
Sponge Bob wrote: » The missing link is still missing . The 1km overground section is evidently north of the the northern portal. There will be hell to pay for this !!!!
monument wrote: » Journalists have an amazing ability to try to be an expert in too much and end up not having a clue what they are talking about.
The project will involve the construction and operation of approximately 8.6 Km of new rail (7.6 Km of which will be in tunnels) from the CIÉ Inchicore Works to tie into the Northern mainline south of East Wall Road and north of the Docklands area. The project will be managed on behalf of CIÉ by Iarnród Éireann, supported by expert advisers with international experience of similar major infrastructure projects.
Rock of Gibraltar wrote: » Does anyone know if the old North Wall station, the quayside end of the IE Spencer Dock site, will be utilised in either the underground project or the permanent Docklands terminus station? or does IE have any plans for this building? Here are some photos;http://eiretrains.com/Photo_Gallery/N/North%20Wall/slides/LNWR%20North%20Wall%20(16).html
BluntGuy wrote: » http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0630/1224273622738.html I'm guessing the railway order contents will be available shortly.
Dart underground rail plan lodged The formal application for the Dart underground rail project in Dublin was lodged with An Bord Pleanála yesterday. If approved, the Dart underground will deliver a high-capacity rail line through the city centre. The twin-bore tunnels will connect the northern and Kildare rail lines with underground stations located at Spencer Dock, Pearse, Station, Stephen’s Green, Christchurch and Heuston Station, as well as a surface Dart station at Inchicore. It is estimated that close to 7,000 people will be employed each year during its proposed construction.
SB Post wrote: Planning permission sought for €2.5bn Dublin Dart underground system27 June 2010 By Niamh Connolly Political Correspondent Iarnród Eireann will this week apply for permission to proceed with plans for its €2.5 billion Dart Underground project in Dublin. The application to An Bord Pleanála is for a 7.6-kilometre underground tunnel which would have the capacity to treble numbers on the capital’s rail network to 100 million journeys annually. The tunnel would connect lines coming into the city from the north of the county to the Kildare lines through underground stations at Spencer Dock, Pearse Street, St Stephen’s Green, Christ Church and Heuston. It will also include a new surface Dart station at Inchicore. The ultimate plan is to link all rail systems - Dart, Commuter, Intercity, Luas and Metro - for an integrated transport network for Dublin. In a business case for the project, Colin Buchanan & Partners , an international transport and economic consultancy, said it would generate 2.4 times more than it cost, and represented an investment in future economic development. The wider benefits to business would increase GDP by some €450 million yearly by 2020, and it would remove 25 million kilometres in car journeys a year from Irish roads by 2030, according to the London consultancy firm. Iarnród Eireann’s application for a Railway Order - the equivalent of planning permission - will be lodged this week, with a view to work starting in 2012 and completing in 2018. The firm recently revealed the project would not be completed by its initial deadline of 2015, as planning applications had taken longer than expected. The Dart Underground is to be built as a public private partnership, and firms have been invited to tender. Responses to the prequalification tender are due by July 20. The successful bidder will be responsible for the design, construction, financing, commissioning, operation and maintenance of the tunnel, as well as stations and facilities over the PPP period to last between 25 and 35 years. In return, the private partner will receive an annual payment.
D.L.R. wrote: » Well not until such pressing matters like...international airport high speed rail link to Arklow get ironed out
pento wrote: » when is it starting?
DWCommuter wrote: » Its a bit like their original plan to have the interconnector portal in the guinness sidings in heuston.
Chris_5339762 wrote: » I havent time, but someone needs to email them about this. I just cant conceive how any design company would do anything so daft as to not connect the 4 track KRP with the 4 track Interconnector. Its just too stupid. It'd be like building the M6 with a little bit of S2 around Lucan.
murphaph wrote: » How many times did they feel the need to reiterate that the project is of national importance, like just building it for Dublin's sake would have been out of the question. Gombeen politics have distorted reality in Ireland to a point where such documents have to be very careful not to get the ire of rural voters up, despite the FACT that Dublin generates the lion's share of Ireland's GDP. Dublin has to bow defferentially to the country when it wants anything.
BluntGuy wrote: » Not much on this front: A new basic explanation PDF:http://www.irishrail.ie/projects/pdf/dartunderground/Missing Link 18pp_11.pdf They've added a "PPP Procurement" section:http://www.irishrail.ie/projects/dart_underground_documents.asp It doesn't exactly have much yet though.
BluntGuy wrote: » For some reason, this presentation has been deleted. There is a cached version here, but without the formatting or pictures:http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:yRbWavRDM54J:www.scribd.com/doc/30970112/Irish-Rail-DART-Underground-Presentation+http://www.scribd.com/doc/30970112/Irish-Rail-DART-Underground-Presentation&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie I would recommend that you back up the information quickly.
green_jesus wrote: » Latest presentation...http://www.scribd.com/doc/30970112/Irish-Rail-DART-Underground-Presentation
murphaph wrote: » My view is that the plans should at least make it reasonably possible to extend to 12 car length, even if the system opens with 8 car. They could presumably mine out the station for 12 car length but not fit it out with platforms etc.
Irish and Proud wrote: » AFAIK, the Thameslink in London (now Capital Connect) is upgrading their line to accommodate 12 carriage trains and the platform lengths will be around 250m. So 174m would probably accommodate the 8 carriage DART trains. As per the plans, it might appear that there will be provision to extend the Dart Underground platforms in the future. Can anyone add to this? Regards!
dowlingm wrote: » 174m platform length = 8 car DART?
