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Request bouncer ID number

rossom

Was at a Dublin Nightclub last night which will remain nameless.

My friend was asked to leave for being too drunk which he did without hassle. I go outside to see if he is ok and then ask the bouncer what time the night club closes at. He tells me the time and says why did I want to know it, to which I responded that I just wanted to reaffirm it for myself. He now tells me I can't get back in because I'm making up fake words that aren't in the English language. I could see the bouncer wasn't letting me back in so I go away for about 45 minutes and try again later.

The second time he once again doesn't let me in and after a few minutes of querying why I couldn't get back in he proceeds to verbally abuse me. I then ask for his ID number (which is displayed on his jacket) which he point blank refuses to give me.

Am I, by law, entitled to get this ID number.

Cheers for any responses!

Have no idea why that laughing face is in the title of my thread!

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Kiwi_knock

Prof.Badass wrote: »

Meh, I've been allowed into places after being told I can't.

That is because you are a Badass

Melion

My name is URL wrote: »

There may be no legal standpoint for the OP being given the ID number, but if what he says is true, and the bouncer threw him out for the reasons stated.. then it was a dickish thing to do

From what ive read on here before its very unlikely that the OP is telling the full story. Of course there are cúnts doing the job who give us all a bad name, but id like to think im good at my job and very understanding when it comes to letting people in and putting people out.

Its amazing how often you hear people shouting "BUT I DIDNT DO ANYTHING",

****newsflash**** We dont put people out for no reason, you're not that important.

BumbleB

bluewolf wrote: »

"Hello Garda, I want to report a bouncer please, here's his number"
"Ok and what seems to be the problem"
"He said I used a word that didn't exist"

Yeah hang on and i'll type that into my invisible typewriter ..........:rolleyes:.

Abelloid

rossom wrote: »

Have no idea why that laughing face is in the title of my thread!

I think you've had enough already tonight. Go home and sleep it off.

Genrikh Yagoda

Where did you go for 45 minutes and why did you bother going back, especially if you weren't that drunk?

Wolfe Tone

Genrikh Yagoda wrote: »

Where did you go for 45 minutes and why did you bother going back, especially if you weren't that drunk?

Went and tried to get into other clubs and failed. Or he went home and couldn't find the gun.

jordan..

most bouncers are complete **** on power trips, law does not apply to them in most situations!

we should name and shame some places :P

Pauleta

admiralofthefleet

the best way to deal with a bouncer is to walk away while continually looking back at him with a smirk on your face, puts the shits up them because they think you might come back with a gang

Melion

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

the best way to deal with a bouncer is to walk away while continually looking back at him with a smirk on your face, puts the shits up them because they think you might come back with a gang

Nope, afraid not.

Thats almost as bad as someone threatening you with "Do you know who i am" or "I know people". Big deal! I live in Limerick too, doesnt mean i know every Dundon, McCarthy and Keane etc.

up for anything

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

the best way to deal with a bouncer is to walk away while continually looking back at him with a smirk on your face, puts the shits up them because they think you might come back with a gang

That's a bit tame. A better way to do it is to go off and find his car and loosen the nuts on the wheel.* Happened to a ex-boyfriend of mine years ago when he was doing bouncer in Kilkee and refused some Limerick guys in because they were drunk and abusive. Next morning we had to take a friend to the bus in Ennis, driving 90 miles an hour to get there in time. On the way back he was doing 40mph because he was wrecked and taking it easy, luckily, the wheel flew off the car, over a hedge and into a field.

*sarcasm, not advice.

Melion

up for anything wrote: »

That's a bit tame. A better way to do it is to go off and find his car and loosen the nuts on the wheel.* Happened to a ex-boyfriend of mine years ago when he was doing bouncer in Kilkee and refused some Limerick guys in because they were drunk and abusive. Next morning we had to take a friend to the bus in Ennis, driving 90 miles an hour to get there in time. On the way back he was doing 40mph because he was wrecked and taking it easy, luckily, the wheel flew off the car, over a hedge and into a field.

*sarcasm, not advice.

How did they know which car was his?

up for anything

Melion wrote: »

How did they know which car was his?

That was easy. It was Kilkee in 1979 - everyone knew everyone, even the weekenders and there weren't a whole heap of cars around in those days.

arybvtcw0eolkf

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

the best way to deal with a bouncer is to walk away while continually looking back at him with a smirk on your face, puts the shits up them because they think you might come back with a gang

Rubbish.

I've been doing doorwork for over 15years and never once thought twice about someone I knocked back (or out).

Best way to deal with ignorant doorstaff - shut your mouth and take your money elsewhere.

OP, coming from someone with a lot of experience in this area and a lot of experience reading such threads.. I'd say its safe you say you were probably hammered and gave the doorstaff very legit reason's to refuse you re-entry.

BumbleB

up for anything wrote: »

That's a bit tame. A better way to do it is to go off and find his car and loosen the nuts on the wheel.* Happened to a ex-boyfriend of mine years ago when he was doing bouncer in Kilkee and refused some Limerick guys in because they were drunk and abusive. Next morning we had to take a friend to the bus in Ennis, driving 90 miles an hour to get there in time. On the way back he was doing 40mph because he was wrecked and taking it easy, luckily, the wheel flew off the car, over a hedge and into a field.

*sarcasm, not advice.

Or even better ,happened in the royal oak , refused entry to some skangs ,they went to the owners 7 series , rammed the front and then the back.

BumbleB

Go back with a samarai sword and full samarai kit .Miyamoto Musashi style.

stovelid

I can't fathom why people are so concerned about being kicked out of a night club. It's happened to most people at some stage.

If they assaulted you or something, fair enough, but otherwise...life is just too short.

Plus I'm always suspicious that the type of people that are so offended by an ejection from a nightclub are also likely to have been far more haughty, condescending or insulting to the door staff than they are letting on.

Melion

stovelid wrote: »

Plus I'm always suspicious that the type of people that are so offended by an ejection from a nightclub are also likely to have been far more haughty, condescending or insulting to the door staff than they are letting on.

Exactly what i said earlier. I cant understand why people feel the need to shout abuse at us for ages after they have been put out, saying they've done nothing wrong. People dont get put out of pubs/clubs for no reason.

MikeC101

MrStuffins wrote: »

As if a bouncer has ever changed his mind.

"Actually Sir, i now see that you are not at all drunk and are in fact fit enough to re-enter the premises. Thank you for showing me my error! Go right in and have a good night!"

Not quite a bouncer changing his mind, but once, in ye olde days, I was with a few other people and the bouncer let everyone in bar me (at the Temple in Drumcondra). I was kind of surprised as I wasn't particularly drunk (plus he'd let in a load of absolutely plastered people ahead of me), so I hung around for a bit, asking him why he hadn't let me in, and pondering what to do with the rest of my night.

Eventually two of the other bouncers came over, I asked them why I hadn't been let in, and they told him to let me in. He was not impressed, and was seriously angry looking when I walked past him.

So, Mike - 1, bouncers - at least 10 by now, probably.

Edit: I've found most bouncers to be pretty nice though, it's not like they want hassle, haven't been refused from anywhere since my student days really.

arybvtcw0eolkf

MikeC101 wrote: »

Not quite a bouncer changing his mind, but once, in ye olde days, I was with a few other people and the bouncer let everyone in bar me (at the Temple in Drumcondra). I was kind of surprised as I wasn't particularly drunk (plus he'd let in a load of absolutely plastered people ahead of me), so I hung around for a bit, asking him why he hadn't let me in, and pondering what to do with the rest of my night.

Eventually two of the other bouncers came over, I asked them why I hadn't been let in, and they told him to let me in. He was not impressed, and was seriously angry looking when I walked past him.

So, Mike - 1, bouncers - at least 10 by now, probably.

Edit: I've found most bouncers to be pretty nice though, it's not like they want hassle, haven't been refused from anywhere since my student days really.

That happens a lot.

Usually happens with doors staff who have a few years on the door and don't mind admitting they've made a wrong call.

I've done similar myself.

MikeC101

Drew Kind Cornflakes wrote: »

That happens a lot.

Usually happens with doors staff who have a few years on the door and don't mind admitting they've made a wrong call.

I've done similar myself.

It was decent of the two other bouncers to go to the trouble of telling the guy to let me in alright - maybe they felt sorry for me, given how sober and cold I looked

I've no idea why he took such a dislike to me though!

To be honest, from seeing friends get kicked out / refused, nearly all the times it happened were justified - I suspect a lot of the "bouncer kicked me out and I didn't do nuthin" tales are from people who were wasted, and only vaguely remember the night in a rose tinted light, but can't believe they might have deserved it.

dan719

Can genuinely say that I have only ever had one altercation with a bouncer that was not one hundred percent my fault. On that occasion the bouncer hit me in the face as I turned to leave. Not sure what he was thinking but I still kinda go WTF? about it. My response, never went back to that club again. No problems.

Any other time I have been kicked out was one hundred percent the right call, and usually I told them as much. Don't really get refused from anywhere so never had to deal with that. I find bouncers to be sound out in general. Always up for a bit of light hearted banter if you are out for a cig or anything.

Royal Irish

This thread has the memories flooding back. I couldnt get into a niteclub once, and I spotted some guy slipping the head bouncer 50 quid to get in, so I chanced my arm with a fiver and he told me to fook off.

K-9

rossom wrote: »

Was at a Dublin Nightclub last night which will remain nameless.

My friend was asked to leave for being too drunk which he did without hassle. I go outside to see if he is ok and then ask the bouncer what time the night club closes at. He tells me the time and says why did I want to know it, to which I responded that I just wanted to reaffirm it for myself. He now tells me I can't get back in because I'm making up fake words that aren't in the English language. I could see the bouncer wasn't letting me back in so I go away for about 45 minutes and try again later.

The second time he once again doesn't let me in and after a few minutes of querying why I couldn't get back in he proceeds to verbally abuse me. I then ask for his ID number (which is displayed on his jacket) which he point blank refuses to give me.

Am I, by law, entitled to get this ID number.

Cheers for any responses!

Have no idea why that laughing face is in the title of my thread!

Seriously, why did you waste your time going back?

Anyway, did you point out that when he refused you the second time, he was reaffirming his original decision?

Sea Sharp

Ye should have just pretended to ring your phone, then have an imaginary conversation, that he can hear, where you just describe what he looks like etc.. and then end the call by saying "OK thanks for that, forget about the money you owe me."
Then just walk off calmly and leave him with paranoia/suspense for the rest of the night.

Chinafoot

Drew Kind Cornflakes wrote: »

OP, coming from someone with a lot of experience in this area and a lot of experience reading such threads.. I'd say its safe you say you were probably hammered and gave the doorstaff very legit reason's to refuse you re-entry.

Not always true though. As a 20 year old, very sober female I was refused entry to my local nightclub firstly for "being too drunk" and then I was informed it was for "fighting with another girl last week and getting sick everywhere". Showing my passport that proved I had arrived home after a year in Australia and couldn't possibly have been where he said I was the week before was the only thing that changed his mind. I told him to go and fúck himself when he decided to let me in then. He was and still is notorious for crap like that.

You might not have been a dick to anyone unreasonably while on the door but that doesn't mean there aren't power-tripping arseholes in that profession who get a kick out of refusing people because they feel like it.

As for the issue of the badge number. I don't see why people shouldn't be able to have their number. If they're being properly regulated the public should be able to report them to the regulating body and a badge number is a pretty necessary piece of information.

sdanseo

I hate detest when people come on here - or any forum - and moan about how they were apparently mistreated in some way while giving a long-winded, one-sided story that nobody can back up and for which the bouncer etc can't defend themselves. That's what ranting and raving is for.

I see the ****e bouncers put up with and most of them are sound. If he was a prick to you, chances are you were making a dick of yourself. Yes you are entitled to see his ID, that's why they have it displayed, but it's not as if he decked you. You stirred shít and it sprayed back in your face. Get over it, life goes on.

Limerick_Lass

Melion wrote: »

Exactly what i said earlier. I cant understand why people feel the need to shout abuse at us for ages after they have been put out, saying they've done nothing wrong. People dont get put out of pubs/clubs for no reason.

But get stopped for no real reason at times unfortunately

khmk

derra_121

MikeC101 wrote: »

Not quite a bouncer changing his mind, but once, in ye olde days, I was with a few other people and the bouncer let everyone in bar me (at the Temple in Drumcondra). I was kind of surprised as I wasn't particularly drunk (plus he'd let in a load of absolutely plastered people ahead of me), so I hung around for a bit, asking him why he hadn't let me in, and pondering what to do with the rest of my night.

Eventually two of the other bouncers came over, I asked them why I hadn't been let in, and they told him to let me in. He was not impressed, and was seriously angry looking when I walked past him.

So, Mike - 1, bouncers - at least 10 by now, probably.

Edit: I've found most bouncers to be pretty nice though, it's not like they want hassle, haven't been refused from anywhere since my student days really.

Thats when things are really poxy when they do that.. pure and utter power trip there on simple as. They get kicks out of ruining 1 persons night.

Refusing people for no reason at all does happen I dont care what anyone says. The good aul Where are you coming from question seems to get me all the time... Generalising people cause where there from most the bouncers are from worse areas