Torakx wrote: Especially now the chinese are considering allowing their currency to appreciate versus the dollar.
humanji wrote: » To be honest, even though any sort of distraction would be beneficial to both countries, another war front would bankrupt the US. They would be insane to even try.
Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani made his comments two days after the US special envoy to Pakistan, Richard C. Holbrooke, cautioned Pakistan not to “overcommit’’ itself to the deal because it could run afoul of new sanctions against Iran Congress is finalizing. The deal has been a constant source of tension between Pakistan and the United States, with Pakistan arguing that it is vital to its ability to cope with an energy crisis and the United States stressing that it would undercut international pressure on Iran over its nuclear program. Gilani said Pakistan would reconsider the deal if it violated UN sanctions, but the country was “not bound to follow’’ unilateral US measures. He said media reports that quoted him as saying that Pakistan would heed Holbrooke’s warning were incorrect. The United Nations has levied four sets of sanctions against Iran for failing to suspend its uranium enrichment, a process that can produce fuel for a nuclear weapon. The latest set of UN sanctions was approved earlier this month. The United States has also applied a number of unilateral sanctions against Iran.
mysterious wrote: » :rolleyes: US is bankrupt. War is a money making machine. Killing innocents, ravaging the land and Taking souls, is one of the best way to get rich fast! You do the math.
mysterious wrote: » Israel attacking Iran in "days", was a headline a few years ago and every day since.:rolleyes:
paddyirishman85 wrote: » But if USA is bankrupt, how could they afford to go to war to make the profit? I could become a millionaire by selling gold at a higher price, but I'd have to buy the gold first. If I was bankrupt, I wouldn't be able to As humanji said, going to war costs billions. If America is bankrupt, how could they afford to start another war? Let me guess... They'll get the money (either winking smiley or rolleyes smiley)
Torakx wrote: » To paddyIrishman you can get a loan from a bank to buy the gold The USA im sure have many ways or playing with the books so teh national debt isnt affected till years later.Look at Greece for an example. Also they can issue promissary notes instead of loans which afaik dont effect inflation/debt etc. As for attacking Iran why wouldnt they bomb them? Israel are probably waiting a long time to fire a few missiles over the border. The yanks must have over 20 ships sitting in range of the coast also.
mysterious wrote: The country is bankrupt, not the Illuminati. They own everything now. Not only this, they can just use the media and tell the country that they are terrorists going to bomb USA again, and you have hundreds of thousands of Americans ready to fight another war. History is just repeating again.
mysterious wrote: » Human beings for the most part are very stupid and docile Paddy. Even if their lives are at a steak. They blindly follow anything they are told.
robtri wrote: » Mysterious Serious question.... are you a human being? born and lived your whole totally on the planet we call earth?
Torakx wrote: » Well they have all the motive in the world to start another war(WMD's,Osama "spotted" in n/e Iran).Im presuming they arent worried about bankrupting america since that is one of the ct's generally going around(that they plan to bankrupt america to bring in a new world currency starting with the amero(or whatever they wish to name the currency for the north american alliance) For me its only a question of time.Maybe they will do another terrorist attack on some other countries that are needed to be dragged into the fray.Possibly a european country. HHmm if i was the states or Israel and wanted to terrorise europe which country would i bomb? maybe false flag attack on Brussells or Paris or Berlin.
mysterious wrote: » There is a war on levels you wouldn't even comprehend.
humanji wrote: » There's no reason to be insulting.
humanji wrote: » And I don't know for sure, but I think enriched uranium is used in both power plants and weapons manufacturing.
EnterNow wrote: » I agree, however if I was PaddyIrishMan, Id find mysterious' comment insulting.
paddyirishman85 wrote: » Nah, I'm cool with it. I guess I'm just having difficulty understanding where the Illuminati's wealth begins and where America's end.
paddyirishman85 wrote: » So if America is in financial difficulty, that's because the Illuminati are taking the money from America from themselves.
The global debt crisis, which is beginning in Greece, and spreading throughout the euro-zone economies of Spain, Portugal, Ireland and ultimately the entire EU, will further consume the UK, Japan and go all the way to America.[50] This will be a truly global debt crisis. Government measures to address the issue of debt focus on the implementation of ‘fiscal austerity measures’ to reduce the debt burdens and make interest payments on their debts. ‘Fiscal austerity’ is a vague term that in actuality refers to cutting social spending and increasing taxes. The effect this has is that the public sector is devastated, as all assets are privatized, public workers are fired en masse, unemployment becomes rampant, health and education disappear, taxes rise dramatically, and currencies are devalued to make all assets cheaper for international corporations and banks to buy up, while internally causing inflation – dramatically increasing the costs of fuel and food. In short, ‘fiscal austerity’ implies ‘social destruction’ as the social foundations of nations and peoples are pulled out from under them. States then become despotic and oppress the people, who naturally revolt against ‘austerity’: the sterilization of society. ‘Fiscal austerity’ swept the developing world through the 1980s and 1990s in response to the 1980s debt crisis which consumed Latin America, Africa, and areas of Asia. The result of the fiscal austerity measures imposed upon nations by the World Bank and IMF was the social dismantling of the new societies and their subsequent enslavement to the international creditors of the IMF, World Bank, and western corporations and banks. It was an era of economic imperialism, and the IMF was a central tool of this imperial project. As the debt crisis we see unfolding today sweeps the world, the IMF is again stepping in to impose ‘fiscal austerity’ on nations in return for short-term loans for countries to pay off the interest on their exorbitant debts, themselves owed mostly to major European and American banks. Western nations have agreed to impose fiscal austerity,[51] which will in fact only inflame the crisis, deepen the depression and destroy the social foundations of the west so that we are left only with the authoritarian apparatus of state power – the police, military, homeland ‘security’ apparatus – which is employed against people to protect the status quo powers. The IMF has also come to the global economic crisis with a new agenda, giving out loans in its own synthetic currency – Special Drawing Rights (SDRs) – an international reserve basket of currencies. The G20 in April of 2009 granted the IMF the authority to begin phasing in the applications of issuing SDRs, and for the IMF to in effect become a global central bank issuing a global currency.[52] So through this global debt crisis, SDRs will be disbursed globally – both efficiently and in abundance – as nations will need major capital inflows and loans to pay off interest payments, or in the event of a default. This will happen at a pace so rapid that it would never be conceivable if not for a global economic crisis. The same took place in the 1980s, as the nature of “Structural Adjustment Programs” (SAPs) could not be properly assessed as detrimental to economic conditions and ultimately socially devastating, for countries needed money fast (as the debt crisis spread across the developing world) and were not in a position to negotiate. Today, this will be the ‘globalization’ of the debt crisis of the 1980s, on a much larger and more devastating scale, and the reaction will be equally globalized and devastating: the continued implementation of ‘global governance’. As austerity hits the west, the middle class will vanish in obscurity, as they will be absorbed into the lower, labour-oriented working class.[53] The youth of the western middle class, comprising the majority of the educated youth, will be exposed to a ‘poverty of expectations’ in which they grew up in a world in which they were promised everything, and from whom everything was so quickly taken. The inevitability of protests, riots and possible rebellion is as sure as the sun rises.[54]
EnterNow wrote: » I dunno, say whatever you want about the US being hypocritical about new powers having nuclear weapons - I dont feel uncomfortable knowing the US have them,
EnterNow wrote: » I would however, if I knew an unstable non democratic government had them.
