Bduffman wrote: » No, the principle of seniority is fine EVERYTHING ELSE BEING EQUAL. SD & Inhalations are like chalk & cheese. So only ONE other concession then? And thats a BS one as it is not enforceble - the company isn't under any obligation to employ anyone who was crap at their job in the first place. Lats face it - theres sod all diference between the original & current agreements. The union just wanted their little victory & as a result have saddled Waterford with a reputation that could ultimately affect Waterford adversely.
Blaaface wrote: » The licence given by the FDA to make the dry powder inhaler in the inhalations factory in Waterford which will expire in 4 years time.
Blaaface wrote: » Hysteria Hysteria!!!!!! You were wrong on the first vote, get over it.
Bduffman wrote: » So there are other differences then? Please tell.
Blaaface wrote: » Try reading them. I think you'll notice them. I'm looking forward to hearing your opinion on Sunday.
Bduffman wrote: » You won't be hearing anything from me - I don't have a vote. So do me a favour & summarise the differences. So do you want to come back on my other post? Do you want to tell us where you got your incorrect information from? Seeing as you are keen n spreading untruths why should anyone believe anything you have to say?
Blaaface wrote: » Oh behave you big blouse, fair enough i got the exact info on the inhaler factory wrong but can you tell me what the 4 year expiry is because i'm pretty sure there is one.
Bduffman wrote: » The EXACT information? You basically made people think that the inhalations plant will be closed down in 4 years time. Thats seriously misleading to say the least. All I'm asking is that you get your facts right before posting. Its peoples livelihoods at stake so theres no point in spreading unfounded rumours. At a guess the 'licence' you are talking about is a patent in the US on ONE inhalations product. This means that other companies will be able to enter the market when that patent expires. This does not mean the product disappears - only that (maybe) the market share might reduce. In the meantime there will be other products launched with a view to replace that product.If Inhalations closes it more likely to be caused by our (new) poor industrial relations record due to recent events than anything to do with licences & patents.
Bduffman wrote: » The EXACT information? You basically made people think that the inhalations plant will be closed down in 4 years time. Thats seriously misleading to say the least. All I'm asking is that you get your facts right before posting. Its peoples livelihoods at stake so theres no point in spreading unfounded rumours. At a guess the 'licence' you are talking about is a patent in the US on ONE inhalations product. This means that other companies will be able to enter the market when that patent expires. This does not mean the product disappears - only that (maybe) the market share might reduce. In the meantime there will be other products launched with a view to replace that product. If Inhalations closes it more likely to be caused by our (new) poor industrial relations record due to recent events than anything to do with licences & patents.
Money Tree wrote: » Pray tell where are you getting the information that there is an inhalations plant being built in Miami from. This is absolute nonsense
Blaaface wrote: » You honestly think TEVA will give a ****e about Union relations when they can make product cheaper somewhere else, that product is only being made in Waterford is it not and when that patent expires it's up for grabs. TEVA will make it wherever it's cheaper and move it there. I sure as hell hope the Inhalor factory stays open in 4 years but you need to be a bit realistic and understand they could move it somewhere cheaper and it won't be down to the Union, it's just ruthless businessmen. Oh and by the way we're on a bloody internet site, people don't take everything as Gospel just because the internet says so. and i thought this was supposed to be a positive thread, damn you internet, fooled again!
Blaaface wrote: » They're buliding one in Isreal and i think India or Hungary. I do know they're adding extra machines in Inhalations which is good news but they invested into tablets a year before they closed that down as well. I just wouldn't like people to think the jobs in Inhalations are safe going forward as no doubt there is a danger that factory could close in a few years and i think everyone realises that who works on the floor. This company is pretty ruthless when it comes to closing places, they've already closed a good few around the World, it seems they're buying places so the get their name on the product that the original company (in this case IVAX) had and then moved it to places where they can make it cheaper. I remember Managing director and the Union being worried about this when TEVA bought the place, they knew they had to get the price down where it came to making a tablet but it just couldn't compare to somewhere like India where the workers are paid peanuts.
Bduffman wrote: » There is only a dry powder plant in Israel. They are NOT building an aerosol plant. There is no inhalations plant being built anywhere else in the world. And regarding anyone in Inhalations thinking their jobs are safe. Who would these people be exactly? Does anyone in any company think there jobs are safe at the moment? Inhalations jobs are no safer or vulnerable than any other job in private industry. But again, it doen't help spreading unfounded rumours. Teva could close next year, in 10 years or 20 years time. You don't know any more than anyone else so unless you have facts........
Blaaface wrote: » Unfounded rumours? I mixed up the details but i was right on the patent (i called it a licence) expiry, being the major product in Inhalations and the fact they could go somewhere else with it after the 4 years.
Blaaface wrote: » I didn't see you being the big Internet warrior when there was unfounded rumours being spread on the last thread, oh right they must have been on your side.
Blaaface wrote: » Union got the vote, helped the senior people in Inhalations take their redundancy so in turn made space for people who wanted to stay take their places, got those who are being left go onto a list to be the first to be called back when there could be a vacancy and also got everyone the 8 weeks when the company only wanted to give 4+2. It's over now and both sides shook on it now MOVE ON!
Aquos76 wrote: » Right lads,unless ye want this thread closed too, I would stop with this argument,it getting ye no where. I would prefer to leave the thread continue until the new vote has been taken but I will close it if people continue to spread unfounded rumours, its no good for anyone to be honest, its merely speculation.
Chief Wigam wrote: » Any update on how today's union vote went?
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