dasium wrote: » I remember hearing a story about that graveyard and travelers, not sure of its veracity though.... it revolved around a well known now deceased trader in Ennis who when their wife died built one of those rather grand monstrosities of a headstone. Part of this rather large headstone was partly constructed of a perspex installation... the rather pious former husband used to go up every night to light a cigarette in honor of his deceased wife who was a particularly committed smoker... on one occasion and under the strong influence of drink, he managed to burn the the grave down... the perspex up in flame alerted locals who called the fire brigade... when they arrived the noticed a strange smell in the air (other than burning plastic) the alerted Gardai found the one of the deceased sons was using the glasshouse effect as a means to grow hash plants on his mothers grave!! would love to know if was remotely true!!
User Friendly wrote: » ok blackjack.......would you give a traveller a job? no you wouldnt,like every other anti traveler poster on here........give them no job but at the same time give them no dole is the attitude.:mad:
Blackjack wrote: » It's not about whether I would give them a job. Do you consider it appropriate for Social Welfare recipients spending several Thousand on a headstone?. The money is not given to people to bling up graves FFS.
User Friendly wrote: » yeah.......keep them seperate in death just as we did while they were alive,thats the way to do it:mad: predigest no harm at all,if the op had even bothered going to funerals he would have seen these headstones a long time ago.but because for whatever reason he makes a once in a blue moon visit there he decides to pass judgement on a group of people who choose to honour their dead by erecting beautiful headstones. you know all the traveler families buried there do you? i know one traveler in Ennis worth an estimated 30million.owns a load of property and land,i have no doubt he paid for most of these headstones,so stop talking nonsense about travelers bieng on the dole when some of your own pals and extended family no doubt are claiming welfare.i dont know you,but i do know that there isnt one poster on boards who doesnt know someone who isnt unemployed!! fair play to them exactly id say if you looked into your own family history,your ancestors probably were at the head of the que with the begging bowl similar to most other families in ireland.:mad: ok blackjack.......would you give a traveller a job? no you wouldnt,like every other anti traveler poster on here........give them no job but at the same time give them no dole is the attitude.:mad:
firesidechat wrote: » I ask the question again , Who are they harming ?
firesidechat wrote: » Why do we feel threatened by anything that is not the norm in this country. They are expressing their individualism and their culture and we should be open to accepting that, and also realise that they are leaving their mark for future generations to acknowledge their existence. In years to come these graves will be of great importance when future intelics study previous generations of irish culture.
firesidechat wrote: » I ask the question again , Who are they harming ? Why do we feel threatened by anything that is not the norm in this country.
Balagan wrote: » While it is mostly travellers who put up these gigantic headstones, others are starting to do the same. The sooner regulations are brought in, and enforced, with regard to maximum height and spread of headstones, the better for everyone with the exception of the Monumental Works who must be making a fortune on them.
Fighting Irish wrote: » I can't believe people want regulations to stop other people from saying farewell to their loved ones Got any more pointless rules you want to enforce on everyone?
Shapey Fiend wrote: » How much? I think I'm going to become a stone mason. If I was erecting something in a space that was going to be frequented by many other grieving people then I'd show some discretion. But I'd respect other peoples right to inconvenience people in death just as they did in life. Just wouldn't catch me dead (badum tish) in that graveyard because it's too big and tacky at this stage.
Run_to_da_hills wrote: » Travellers graves are usually spotless this time of year, some with expensive ornaments etc on the plot. No one dares remove them.
User Friendly wrote: » the money is theirs to spend it how they wish until a law states otherwise,not how you'd like them to spend it.as i said earlier,a few families would have paid for the larger more expensive ones.
Run_to_da_hills wrote: » Nothing to do with cultures, this building of monstrosities is relatively new, and just as travellers like to be seen in stretched hummers on their communion or wedding day they also like to be buried under marble sky scrapers.
dr.fuzzenstein wrote: » Nothing against you Balagan, it's just a general rant, but that is the attitude that absolutely makes me scream about the Irish. Yes, we need regulation regarding headstones, the smell of aftershave, the width of cats, the angle of rooftiles, the colour of socks worn on Tuesdays, availability of asparagus over the Xmas period and if you're allowed to tuck your shirt into your pants. Don't like the look of someone? Call your local TD and have him sort out some laws! It's this sick attitude that everyone can be forced to cooperate by forcing them through legal means. Soon it will be enshrined in law how you're supposed to wipe your arse (3 sheets, one up, one down and one to polish). No one will ever live beside people they always like, be it they're attitude, appearance, unkempt lawn, old banger of a car and, as in this case, their headstones. But has anyone ever heard of dialogue? Talking to the other person? Not in Ireland, if someone does something you don't like you go to the gards, your solicitor and your TD about it. Maybe I wouldn't like some Fools and Horses headstone beside a loved one's grave, but before I go and start some campaign for the proper regulation of the appearance of headstones in cemeteries I would probably assess if now I have enough time in my life to start something that is A: positive and B: worthwile, maybe work for charity or something, because as soon as thoughts like that would enter my head I'd know that I had WWWAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY to much time on my hands. It's an attitude like that that gets springboards and ladders removed at Kilkee because "a proper Health and Safety audit has to be performed on them"
Balagan wrote: » You'll be hearing forthwith from my solicitor! You're originally from a European country, right? Some European countries have pretty stringent rules about gravestones/memorials. How about yours?
firesidechat wrote: » Just checked on Google Earth and it seems we also are still a european country. Can we not be unique and original and not follow the trend of other countries. I forgot that wouldn't be possible cause we would have to open our minds and think outside the box, Something we are not comfortable with doing.
Balagan wrote: » \ If you are willing to open your mind enough to be happy to bury your granny between two gigantic marble headstones with life sized etchings of men holding pints in their hands, then, by all means, exercise that right. It would not be my choice nor would it be the choice of many.
Shapey Fiend wrote: » This forum is getting absolutely swamped with riff raff these days. I remember the time when I could sit on this forum sipping martinis without being bothered by commoners with usernames like "Fighting Irish". How absolutely horrid. I'm in half a mind to extradite myself to the Clare Herald forum, except the name Herald has all sorts of working class connotations.
Run_to_da_hills wrote: » What??? Fighting Irish has been about 8 years according to his signiture, and you are about just 6 months unless you are a duplicate poster.
CiaranMT wrote: » He may just have been posting sarcastically.. Possibly..
