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1901 census online

aDeener

apologies of this has already been posted, the 1901 census is now available online following the success of the 1911 one. im sure some of you will be interested in this

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

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UpTheSlashers

brianthebard wrote: »

What's your explanation so? I know my parents, aunts and uncles, etc often forget how old I am or their own kids or whatever. If people didn't celebrate birthdays, didn't have birth certs, didn't have driver licenses or any reason to keep track of their age then they could easily forget over the years.

Surely they could remember the year they were born?

aDeener

Timepiece wrote: »

Has any one noticed inconsistencies in the reported ages of Parents between the 1901 and 1911 census. I have found that reported ages have been increased by as much as six years beyond that you would expect..

40 in 1901 and 56 in 1911..

My first guess was some attempt to secure a pension a few years earlier, but I don't think the old age pension was paid until some years later.. Any ideas?

i noticed this too and was wondering what was up. the parents ages were not consistent but the childrens were

IvyTheTerrible

DocBrowne wrote: »

I'm noticing this as well, my great-grandfather managed to age 20 years between 1901 and 1911 - I know times were tough, but even so... I have also noticed discrepancies between spellings of the surnames between the two, in 1901 we were Keogh, then in 1911 Kehoe, and we're Keogh now again - the same man filled in and signed the forms in 1901 and 1911. Similarly other relations are down as Colman, but we've always thought it was Coleman, that's how all my cousins spell their name. Stuff like that must drive you nuts if you're a professional researcher!

Oh yeah I noticed the spelling mistakes too. My maternal grandparents surname changes between the two cencus'.

brianthebard

Timepiece wrote: »

I don't believe that this was because they could not keep track of their ages. I have found both sides of the family have inflated the ages of the parents. The women by 2 years and the men by 4 and six years. All the children's ages (ten on one side of the family) are correct and tally with the 1901 census plus 10 years.

What's your explanation so? I know my parents, aunts and uncles, etc often forget how old I am or their own kids or whatever. If people didn't celebrate birthdays, didn't have birth certs, didn't have driver licenses or any reason to keep track of their age then they could easily forget over the years.

javaboy

DocBrowne wrote: »

I'm noticing this as well, my great-grandfather managed to age 20 years between 1901 and 1911 - I know times were tough, but even so... I have also noticed discrepancies between spellings of the surnames between the two, in 1901 we were Keogh, then in 1911 Kehoe, and we're Keogh now again - the same man filled in and signed the forms in 1901 and 1911. Similarly other relations are down as Colman, but we've always thought it was Coleman, that's how all my cousins spell their name. Stuff like that must drive you nuts if you're a professional researcher!

Well you could always go back and ask them to explain.

DocBrowne

I'm noticing this as well, my great-grandfather managed to age 20 years between 1901 and 1911 - I know times were tough, but even so... I have also noticed discrepancies between spellings of the surnames between the two, in 1901 we were Keogh, then in 1911 Kehoe, and we're Keogh now again - the same man filled in and signed the forms in 1901 and 1911. Similarly other relations are down as Colman, but we've always thought it was Coleman, that's how all my cousins spell their name. Stuff like that must drive you nuts if you're a professional researcher!

Timepiece

brianthebard wrote: »

It was fairly/somewhat normal for people to not really keep track of age and birthdays in the same way we do now. There was a thread in the genealogy forum about it recently. The person mentioned above wasn't trying to scam a pension because you didn't qualify until you were 70.

I don't believe that this was because they could not keep track of their ages. I have found both sides of the family have inflated the ages of the parents. The women by 2 years and the men by 4 and six years. All the children's ages (ten on one side of the family) are correct and tally with the 1901 census plus 10 years.

magotch07

my great great grandparents had lodgers....how do you have lodgers in a one bedroom tenement block

brianthebard

Timepiece wrote: »

Has any one noticed inconsistencies in the reported ages of Parents between the 1901 and 1911 census. I have found that reported ages have been increased by as much as six years beyond that you would expect..

40 in 1901 and 56 in 1911..

My first guess was some attempt to secure a pension a few years earlier, but I don't think the old age pension was paid until some years later.. Any ideas?

It was fairly/somewhat normal for people to not really keep track of age and birthdays in the same way we do now. There was a thread in the genealogy forum about it recently. The person mentioned above wasn't trying to scam a pension because you didn't qualify until you were 70.

IvyTheTerrible

I like how in 1901, my great grandad was listed as Head of the family but by 1911, his mother in law was! She must have been a tough aul nut!

Timepiece

Has any one noticed inconsistencies in the reported ages of Parents between the 1901 and 1911 census. I have found that reported ages have been increased by as much as six years beyond that you would expect..

40 in 1901 and 56 in 1911..

My first guess was some attempt to secure a pension a few years earlier, but I don't think the old age pension was paid until some years later.. Any ideas?

ejmaztec

brianthebard wrote: »

The earlier censuses (censii?) were just less comprehensive. Local records would be a better place to search.

I think the holders of the records in Kerry aren't playing the game properly i.e. they're a bunch of robbers if you need info from them, and they aren't in any particular hurry to put all of their records online, unlike most of the 32 counties.:(

Krusader

just found mine they had the name spelt wrong

brianthebard

ejmaztec wrote: »

As I suspected, my ancestors arrived on a spaceship between 1901 and 1911, because there was no sign of them before.:(

It's gratifying to know that there were 1464 idiots in Ireland in 1901, and only 1116 in 1911. Some of them must have emigrated to Australia.

The earlier censuses (censii?) were just less comprehensive. Local records would be a better place to search.

Krusader

ejmaztec wrote: »

As I suspected, my ancestors arrived on a spaceship between 1901 and 1911, because there was no sign of them before.:(

Mine too we are not in the 1901 census but in the 1911

thetonynator

My family had 2 farm servants.

One of whom is cruelly labelled as an imbecile.

Kivaro

Crosáidí wrote: »

So he went to Doggy Hell

He was atheist, so didn't believe in Hell.

I guess he must have lived it up while on planet ............. riding all round him (givin' no respect to the bitches), pissin' in the farmer's wellies, crappin' in the cabbage patch etc.
While the dogs who were religious spent their lives pretending to be good, but still doing the stuff that Rover (above) did.

Duff Man Jr.

Found a family of circus performers, child labour ftw!
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Limerick/Clarina/Glascurram/624366/

ejmaztec

As I suspected, my ancestors arrived on a spaceship between 1901 and 1911, because there was no sign of them before.:(

It's gratifying to know that there were 1464 idiots in Ireland in 1901, and only 1116 in 1911. Some of them must have emigrated to Australia.

Mike 1972

You mean Not all dogs go to heaven ???

Krusader

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Interestingly the dog appears to have been an atheist

So he went to Doggy Hell

skepticalone

some excellent photos on there tho ...

Mike 1972

Kivaro wrote: »

Ah, that's so funny.
But did you notice under the Read/Write question, the respondent put 'Cannot Read', so the question is:
Can the dog write?

Interestingly the dog appears to have been an atheist

Kivaro

Eibhin70 wrote: »

That is feckin' hilarious....I bet that dog was loved....a member of the family:)

Ah, that's so funny.
But did you notice under the Read/Write question, the respondent put 'Cannot Read', so the question is:
Can the dog write?

Jimbo

brummytom wrote: »

I doubt anyone knows - but are 'Bealanageary' and 'Ballingeary', County Cork the same place? I'd assume so, but don't know.

Very interesting, though. Thanks

Yep, same place. The english spelling of some nameplaces change down the years.

You can see the historic map of the place here: http://ims0.osiemaps.ie/website/publicviewer/main.aspx#V1,514926,567154,6

owenc

baldbear wrote: »

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000059270/

Sorry but this is from 1911 look at the bottom name and details. I nearly collapsed!!!!:p

funny that the surname is cullen aswell.

owenc

aDeener wrote: »

id say you would find more with your name in a census for scotland :pac:

naw the surname was likely translated. its more than likely irish.

owenc

GaNjaHaN wrote: »

My great grand parents had a servant.

My great great grand father was a stone mason and made his cousin be his servant!

aDeener

brummytom wrote: »

I doubt anyone knows - but are 'Bealanageary' and 'Ballingeary', County Cork the same place? I'd assume so, but don't know.

Very interesting, though. Thanks

hmm well theres a problem there as either could be small townlands or a different way of spelling the one placename as is very common throughout rural ireland. there is certainly a bealanageary in macroom, and ballingeary is a part of the gaeltacht. id imagine they are 2 different places

brummytom

I doubt anyone knows - but are 'Bealanageary' and 'Ballingeary', County Cork the same place? I'd assume so, but don't know.

Very interesting, though. Thanks