TommyT wrote: » Firstly it is not up to Sinn Fein to call any poll on the issue of the border. Where exactly do you get your figures to back up your argument for catholics wanting to remain part of the UK?
Happy Monday wrote: » http://www.ark.ac.uk/nilt/2008/Political_Attitudes/NIRELND2.html Check out the religious preferences at the end.
dlofnep wrote: » I know it hurts you to see Sinn Féin become the backbone of politics in the north, but you're just going to have to deal with it. Just like it hurt the Boers when Nelson Mandela became the president of South Africa. They once called him a terrorist too.
TommyT wrote: » And this poll is representative of who/what?
dlofnep wrote: » Well, you don't get to decide who the electorate can vote for. And unlucky for you, Sinn Féin are now the largest party in the north. Which means that they were doing exactly what the people wanted - engaging in the peace process, devolving power and working on behalf on their constituents.
dlofnep wrote: » I know it hurts you to see Sinn Féin become the backbone of politics in the north,
dlofnep wrote: » Just like it hurt the Boers when Nelson Mandela became the president of South Africa. They once called him a terrorist too.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » Are they though ? I have a strong suspicion Catholics voted for Sinn Fein on either Sectarian or Nationalist grounds rather then an informed vote on their policies.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » Nelson Mandela is a great man. Don't even dare compare him to Martin McGuinness.
Happy Monday wrote: » You get the poll - then you dismiss them when it reveals results you do not like.
dlofnep wrote: » So it is very convenient for you to consider one great, and the other not so much.
dlofnep wrote: » Who did you vote for? Why would it not be a great day for the leading republican party in the north, which endorses the peace process and devolved power for the people not be a great day for the rest of us?
dlofnep wrote: » What a convenient suspicion! A very uninformed suspicion, but convenient nonetheless.
dlofnep wrote: » Both engaged in armed struggle against a system that could never afford their people a fair shot. I also think Nelson is a great man, but he was the leader of the Umkhonto we Sizwe which used the exact same tactics as the IRA.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » Yea, just a pity they were terrorists...
ghostdancer wrote: » a bit like FF and FG used to be....
Stabshauptmann wrote: » lol. Is there a medal going for biggest cop out to a question ever?
Iwasfrozen wrote: » So you believe there is another reason a far-left/Social Democratic party got into power ?
Iwasfrozen wrote: » If you disagree with my suspicion that is fine. But I would like to see a a report on how many Protestant voted for them. I doubt such information would be released however. I could be wrong on that but I doubt it.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » They are nowhere near the same. Mandela wanted to create a "Rainbow Nation", the exact opposite of Nationalism. Sinn fein want to bring the North into the Rep. Two very different positions.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » Yes, very convenient. Especially since I make a note of not considering Terrorist leaders "great".
TommyT wrote: » If the poll had any credibility you may have a point, but as it stands you are clutching at straws here. It seems like something a child would do for a school project.
owenc wrote: » If those people are want a united Ireland that desperately why can't they just move down south so bloody simple... If there was a referndum it should be by the cobstuencies as the Derry one would make us join Ireland even though that is only a small part of the county!
danbohan wrote: » they must have interviewed Catholics living on shankill road , you better find more accurate sources . not all catholics want a 32 county republic , not all protestants want union with uk , but not 39% on either side , prob more like 3%
P. Breathnach wrote: » I voluntarily waste a good deal of time reading and posting here, but there is no way that I am prepared to put in the amount of effort involved to explain my reasons for disapproving of Sinn Féin to a Sinn Féin supporter.
Happy Monday wrote: » ...but there is a significant % of middle class Catholic SDLP voters who wish NI to remain part of the UK - subvention of GBP5bn annually, public sector and NHS are the key reasons for this support. Show me the poll.
owenc wrote: » You people are so biased you make me angry!? That is true in belfast but not here they don't go on like that here they vote for who they want.. Btw dup is largest it has most seats..
DoireNod wrote: » Where's 'here'? And again, exactly who do you claim to be speaking on behalf of? The DUP has the most seats, but Sinn Féin got the most votes. Hence, Sinn Féin are the largest party.
dlofnep wrote: » Actually - Sinn Féin wants to unify Ireland. It doesn't want to bring anything into anything. It also wants to integrate unionists into it. Just like Nelson Mandela wanted to integrate the white community into a new South Africa. Mandela engaged in what is described as terrorist activities. You stated he was great. So yes, it is convenient.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » No it isn't, Shinn Féin are ex-terrorists. They shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the halls of power.
Iwasfrozen wrote: » Indeed it does hurt me when ex-terrorists and socialist/nationalists get into power.
DoireNod wrote: » I genuinely don't know any SDLP voters who actively wish for the maintenance of the union. If they do, they're voting for the wrong party.
FlutterinBantam wrote: » How do you figure that out?
owenc wrote: » My granny does! My mums also catholic and she voted unionists.
