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The Turner Prize

RATM

I just love the Turner Prize. Its such a load of cock that you gotta love it. It seems the exhibitions are chosen solely for their ability to cause controversy

This year their nominees for modern 'art' include one bird called Susan Philipsz who has recorded herself singing and then plays it through tannoy systems in supermarkets. She once even did a live performance over the PA system in Tesco !!! Wow!
Her work is described by Tate Britain as this:

"Whether encountered in a stairwell, supermarket or on a promenade, the artist's voice interjects through the ambient noises of the everyday, often eliciting collective and subjective recollections or meditative introspection,"

Brilliant! You couldn't make it up

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Smcgie

Tina?

pickarooney

I kind of love it too for the same reason. It's the absolute pinnacle of cockknockery and anything that reaches such heights should be applauded.

Plus, that Tracey Emin lass is just about the duuuuurtiest woman I've ever seen.

orourkeda

Art is a load of me bollix.

Kold

I enjoy the Turner Prize, it's usually a farce but f*ck it, it entertains.

Also OP, you're so edgy by calling it modern 'art'. I got it, you were questioning the validity of contemporary experimentation within the arts as legitimate art. Hilarious. Can't help the feeling that I've heard that one before though..

RATM

Kold wrote: »

I enjoy the Turner Prize, it's usually a farce but f*ck it, it entertains.

Also OP, you're so edgy by calling it modern 'art'. I got it, you were questioning the validity of contemporary experimentation within the arts as legitimate art. Hilarious. Can't help the feeling that I've heard that one before though..

No I wasn't trying to be edgy, I was trying to decorate the word art in an artful fashion by adding inverted commas thus 'art'. What I was really trying to do was to transcend people's natural expectation that inverted commas are used for one single effect. I'm trying to open people's minds to the use of inverted commas as merely decorations on words that are pleasing to the eye.

Kold

RATM wrote: »

No I wasn't trying to be edgy, I was trying to decorate the word art in an artful fashion by adding inverted commas thus 'art'. What I was really trying to do was to transcend people's natural expectation that inverted commas are used for one single effect. I'm trying to open people's minds to the use of inverted commas as merely decorations on words that are pleasing to the eye.

All for a misinformed critique on the Turner Prize. Splendid.

dr.bollocko

I farted on a slice of mango once. No galleries ever called me about it.
Should have followed through I guess.

RATM

Kold wrote: »

All for a misinformed critique on the Turner Prize. Splendid.

Misinformed? Do explain

melekalikimaka

lads, its fine art... you really need to have an open mind with it... REALLLLLLLLY open for this particular award... Look up a definition of fine art, and then look at the work...

its not the award thats crazy, its the whole genre...

I secretly love it tho

AnonoBoy

melekalikimaka wrote: »

lads, its fine art... you really need to have an open mind with it... REALLLLLLLLY open for this particular award... Look up a definition of fine art, and then look at the work...

its not the award thats crazy, its the whole genre...

I secretly love it tho

Is it not modern art?

Fine art is painting etc. isn't it? The old reliables.

melekalikimaka

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Is it not modern art?

Fine art is painting etc. isn't it? The old reliables.

fine art is anything really, as long as the artist can 'justify' it, or apply a context to it, its fine art...

tbh you'll never get a clear definition

brianthebard

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Is it not modern art?

We're well past modern art at this stage lads, its post-post modern art that this thing is about really.
Fine art does of course have a definition, what meleka is referring to in a round about way is conceptual art.

AnonoBoy

As long as it's not performance art it's ok with me.

*heads off to find mime gun*

sbsquarepants

pickarooney wrote: »

Plus, that Tracey Emin lass is just about the duuuuurtiest woman I've ever seen.

This bird does my skull in.
That is all:mad:

melekalikimaka

brianthebard wrote: »

We're well past modern art at this stage lads, its post-post modern art that this thing is about really.
Fine art does of course have a definition, what meleka is referring to in a round about way is conceptual art.

well whats the difference between the two then? Not being smart. I study this... but from a pigeon hole of photography, and tbh i'd consider conceptual art an element of fine art... provided theres context

brianthebard

melekalikimaka wrote: »

well whats the difference between the two then? Not being smart. I study this... but from a pigeon hole of photography, and tbh i'd consider conceptual art an element of fine art... provided theres context

Yes of course conceptual art is an element or can be referred to as a strata of fine art, but fine art is not shorthand for conceptual art, and encompasses far more than that, including the 'old reliables' previously referred to by Anono Boy.

melekalikimaka

brianthebard wrote: »

Yes of course conceptual art is an element or can be referred to as a strata of fine art, but fine art is not shorthand for conceptual art, and encompasses far more than that, including the 'old reliables' previously referred to by Anono Boy.

I didnt say that, well maybe I did, I was just correcting that fine art isnt just 'paintings'

brianthebard

melekalikimaka wrote: »

I didnt say that, well maybe I did, I was just correcting that fine art isnt just 'paintings'

I was replying more to the idea that fine art can be anything. I suppose in a way it can in that it covers most art forms, but the way you referred to applying context or justification has more to do with conceptual art. For instance an architect doesn't have to justify their building for it to be considered fine art, but a conceptual artist depends upon the concept which is supposedly illuminated in their piece.

melekalikimaka

brianthebard wrote: »

I was replying more to the idea that fine art can be anything. I suppose in a way it can in that it covers most art forms, but the way you referred to applying context or justification has more to do with conceptual art. For instance an architect doesn't have to justify their building for it to be considered fine art, but a conceptual artist depends upon the concept which is supposedly illuminated in their piece.

I guess so, as I said, my view is very pigeonholed

Herb Powell

well would anyone care to define art?
not easy is it
I certainly think this is a load of bollocks, but that doesn't mean it can't be considered art.

Mr Benevolent

Whenever I hear the phrase 'modern art' in a social setting, it's always spoken by someone whose lexicon includes 'loike tewtally' and 'roysh?'.

Modern art - putting the 'con' back into 'conceptual'.

longshanks

so we're all in agreement then??

Kold

Confab wrote: »

Whenever I hear the phrase 'modern art' in a social setting, it's always spoken by someone whose lexicon includes 'loike tewtally' and 'roysh?'.

Modern art - putting the 'con' back into 'conceptual'.

That's most definitely your problem rather than art's.

epgc3fyqirnbsx

Only thing worse than modern art is modern dance

InTheTrees

Confab wrote: »

Whenever I hear the phrase 'modern art' in a social setting, it's always spoken by someone whose lexicon includes 'loike tewtally' and 'roysh?'.

Modern art - putting the 'con' back into 'conceptual'.

Yup. Considering that they've been using the term "modern" art for almost/over a centuary its pretty much done now.

stovelid

Smcgie wrote: »

Tina?

She never had much luck, even if highly favoured. Beaten soundly year after year. At least she tried. I guess.

starbelgrade

I like the Turner Prize & am a fan of many of it's previous recipients, most notably Damien Hirst.

Does anybody remember the KLF / Justified Ancients of Mu Mu? After their musical exploits, they set up the K-Foundation art award for the "worst artist of the year". In 1993, they awarded a £40k prize to Richard Whiteread, outside the Tate Gallery, just after he had picked up his Turner Prize & £20k for best artist of the year, in the Tate Gallery!

The following year, as the Turner Prize was being awarded, they hijacked the media wagon, by burning £1 million, which they filmed & toured with, under the name of "Watch the K Foundation Burn a Million Quid". (An act which they later admitted to regretting)

Whatever you think about the Turner Prize, it always draws a reaction.

Son Of A Vidic

My entry for the Turner prize this year will be: A sh1t on a plate with a knife and fork beside it, it will rest on top of a grave headstone.
My work will be titled - 'Eat sh1t and die.'

Kold

medicman2009 wrote: »

My entry for the Turner prize this year will be: A sh1t on a plate with a knife and fork beside it, it will rest on top of a grave headstone.
My work will be titled - 'Eat sh1t and die.'

Sounds lazy and well, oh God I hate to pun... well... 'not good'.

The fact that it has to have been exhibited somewhere and already picked at this stage will work against you also I imagine.

DublinWriter

Half-Man, Half-Biscuit, lyrics to If I had possession over Pancake Day:

Outside Goldsmith’s coughing up blood,
Turner Prize judge gasps “Christ that’s good -
Leave it as it is, it’ll get first place
We’ll call it a full shift at the coal face”
Oh well you’re neither a Stuckist or a YBA
and you’re no longer a miner as of today

Praise for the wardens ready to fine
Anyone caught saying “graphic design”
Rag-mag seller said I’d be in pleats
Only when he’d been cleaned from the streets
Oh I could squeeze my lemon ’till my blues went away
If I had possession over Pancake Day

Give a philosophy student a glass of limeade
and he will say: “is this a glass of limeade?”
and “if so, why is it a glass of limeade?”
and, after a while, he’ll die of thirst