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I'm getting sick of some of the people in this game.

uncle_sam_ie

I was doing my fishing daily when I thought I better do my random for the frost badges. So, I'm in straight away after hitting random and end up running to the fight. The group was already on the first boss and nearly dead. I finely get there but, I'm still in my moonkin spec with fishing gear on. I healed my ass off and no one died. So, I say in the chat that "I'm in the wrong spec please wait". Unbelievably I get back "omg" "ffs " want me to heal". So, now I've change spec and outfit, but have zero mana. These guy's don't even wait and charge into a pack of adds. We'll I'm steaming from the comments they made to me, so I just sit there and I say to myself f***k- em if they can't even wait. Now they're all dead and I get " kick the healer" and then I blow saying" I cant' heal without mana you f***king dickheads and I asked you to wait" and then hit leave party. What is up with people. I've played this game from the begining and it was never this bad. A friend of mine just came back after six months break and got kicked from a random for having a low GS. He's an awesome player and was in the number one ranked guild on his server ffs and his gear was ok.

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StinkyMunkey

TheDoc wrote: »

Yes

Random heroics are not for you to get carried through.

Before you enter ANY heroics when you hit 80, take the small time it takes to ensure you are ATLEAST hitcapped.

When you walk into your first random heroic at 80 after acquiring your hit cap, you will atleast be useful in some shape or form.

Dont just stroll in expecting the rest of the group to carry you, or you will just get kicked.

I did 3 random hc's last week with a healer that just dinged 80 that hour, he had all greens and blues. First 2 went ok, only a couple dps got spanked. But the third wasnt happening. I couldnt care less what type of gear of dps someone is doing tbh, as long as they can do the job. Anyone who has any understanding of their class and does as much dps as their gear allows, is more than welcome in any hc i tank.

Where as people whinging and moaning about GS and DPS can go take a running jump, i play WoW for light enjoyment, not to judge people on how good or bad they are at playing it. Im always polite and dont feel the need to bash someone who is at a point where i was once. People who start crying like a b1tch will get kicked from my group, or failing that, ill just bail.

Thats my opinion anyway, not everyone is gonna like it. But im indifferent whether they do or not. Manners dont cost anything, and grouping with people who have them, makes the game more enjoyable for me anyway.

*thats not a dig at you Doc, just my take on the WoW experience.

TheDoc

ravydavygravy wrote: »

I thought the idea of random heroics were to get better gear once you hit 80? I'm only a few levels away now, but that was my plan - am I totally wrong?

Dave

Yes

Random heroics are not for you to get carried through.

Before you enter ANY heroics when you hit 80, take the small time it takes to ensure you are ATLEAST hitcapped.

When you walk into your first random heroic at 80 after acquiring your hit cap, you will atleast be useful in some shape or form.

Dont just stroll in expecting the rest of the group to carry you, or you will just get kicked.

ravydavygravy

Noxin wrote: »

Got my first kick yesterday.

Doing a normal FoS, cleared. Normal PoS again cleared. Then got kicked going into the last part.

Only hit lvl 80 about 2 hours earlier so my gear and as such DPS was rubbish. 1.3kdps not enough but srsly, it was on normal. We had not wiped or anything.

I've skipped random heroics for now until I get some better gear. Good thing the guild is there to carry my sorry ass through for some

I thought the idea of random heroics were to get better gear once you hit 80? I'm only a few levels away now, but that was my plan - am I totally wrong?

Dave

Noxin

Got my first kick yesterday.

Doing a normal FoS, cleared. Normal PoS again cleared. Then got kicked going into the last part.

Only hit lvl 80 about 2 hours earlier so my gear and as such DPS was rubbish. 1.3kdps not enough but srsly, it was on normal. We had not wiped or anything.

I've skipped random heroics for now until I get some better gear. Good thing the guild is there to carry my sorry ass through for some

Shougeki

Trade in sunstrider seems to be for everything...

tman

Rei-chan wrote: »

The other day in BG I got called a "trade spamming hoe" and some other unpleasant names...And just because I chat! Silly people...

Sounds fair enough tbh... The trade chan is for trade last time I checked, not random chat:p

elexes

atm my guild have moved my postion in the guild from helping with raids to reports on the general mood and atmosphere of the guild due to childish bickering withing /g and private whispers between the tanks. i have to post a summery on how each member acted at certian points.

( dose anyone know a program that will put my chat into a txt document for me so i can log everything typed ? )

last night i got into a lovely raid group . we wiped loads. no one quit we got 7 bosses down in icc and agree'd to friend eachother for future invites to pug. everyone got some gear nothing waisted and some people got achievements that they were missing out on

the atmosphere generated by 1 rotton egg in this game can make a lot of people quit. i know 3 people who have now changed faction on outland. ( alliance scum )

at liest there is a select few that i always raid / pug with knowing that each of us can have a laugh at eachother and dont worry about repair bills. after all if you cant afford to wipe you reely shouldnt be raiding

Rei-chan

I'm rather chatty and so talk in trade often enough. Nice things, of course. Well, maybe some trolling >.> I never say anything offensive.
So sometimes it happens that when I'm on alts, people will find out who I am and be like "Omg ossum!" or ignore me.
The other day in BG I got called a "trade spamming hoe" and some other unpleasant names...And just because I chat! Silly people...

pablomakaveli

gungun wrote: »

was doing an instance today, tank and healer were insulting each other for the whole bloody duration of it, i asked them politely to stop bickering and to get on with the instance and i was ignored
so i told them in a slightly more.... aggressive manner and i was swiftly told by the tank that i have less GS then him so i should stfu
i was very close to leaving at that point but i had to hold on for the daily
i hope to christ i dont get another retard like that again but i think the odds are stacked against me:P

I always hate when a group starts bickering because it nearly always mean that people will leave and ill have to queue for another dungeon. In my experience, it nearly always seems to be the tank who initiates the arguing.

TechnoPool

your taking this game very serious ^^

gungun

was doing an instance today, tank and healer were insulting each other for the whole bloody duration of it, i asked them politely to stop bickering and to get on with the instance and i was ignored
so i told them in a slightly more.... aggressive manner and i was swiftly told by the tank that i have less GS then him so i should stfu
i was very close to leaving at that point but i had to hold on for the daily
i hope to christ i dont get another retard like that again but i think the odds are stacked against me:P

StinkyMunkey

You should try WG on my server (bloodfeather), when the option to transfer factions came in, everyone and there mother went horde on my server, and ally was already in the minority.

Saying that though, doing WG with 175k hp can be queit funny. Its fun one shotting horde when you have buffs you get from fighting with 10 ally against a 100 horde;).

Overheal

HAs Wintergrasp always been such a horrible experience or is it just now that Blizzard is cashing in on Faction changes they dont give a damn anymore.

StinkyMunkey

copeyhagen wrote: »

the problem with the game is sweden

Ive heard that said on more than one occassion. It seems WoW is just not a game to be enjoyed, its a whole lifestyle, with no room for anyone who doesnt eat, sleep and breath WoW:eek:.

copeyhagen

the problem with the game is sweden

Berns

StinkyMunkey wrote: »

Was tanking a HC last night, and a rogue kept pulling mobs, because i was stopping to loot bodies. So i said "ffs, stop pulling please", the response was "ffs move faster". I told him, we go at my pace (which mostly depends on how good the healer is), so the rogue pulled again while i stopped for 3 secs to loot a body, i told em to enjoy his repair bill and left. Finished the daily i was doing and joined a new hc within seconds.

Try bein a skinner as a tank :rolleyes: Especially if theres another skinner in the group and its something like VH where can't really pause

If the rogue had any brains he woulda at least been using tricks of the trade to misdirect the mobs onto you

I have a rogue main, and dk tank(skinner) alt :P

StinkyMunkey

Was tanking a HC last night, and a rogue kept pulling mobs, because i was stopping to loot bodies. So i said "ffs, stop pulling please", the response was "ffs move faster". I told him, we go at my pace (which mostly depends on how good the healer is), so the rogue pulled again while i stopped for 3 secs to loot a body, i told em to enjoy his repair bill and left. Finished the daily i was doing and joined a new hc within seconds.

Mind you it's not always bad, i mostly find people will take the good with the bad. GS and DPS mean feck all to me, i was one of those ppl struggling with my char, dps & GS for along time (im now just under 5k from just doing hc's).

Ive come along way since ive started tanking, and never have problems now in hc's, other than with HoR (think thats the one, the one with the lich king following u). When i first started hc's as a dps, i didnt have a clue about tacs on any of them, i was always a pug. Now i know all the hc's inside and out, and i never have any problem what so ever with taking time out to explain things to ppl and give them advice on how not to make the same mistake again.

][cEMAN**

bad2dabone wrote: »

no no, 50k plus when buffed, about 55k is what I should be aiming for in 10 mans I'm told.

That's fair. You're looking at just under 40 unbuffed to reach that, before the 10% buff. Obviously if you can get 50k fully raid buffed, the 10% will put you to 55k. You can do the earlier bosses with less than this (about 48k+/37k unbuffed), but to do it comfortably 50k is a good figure. Paladins are overpowered when it comes to standing firm in a boss fight now, so matching the other tanks for HP, playing right, you should be able to outlast them.

bad2dabone wrote: »

interesting, can you give me any figures on what I should be aiming for?
I just logged onto armory to check my armor value and was horrified to see it quite low - until i saw my char was holding her fishing rod and not her sword and board!

You'd be best to aim for about 30k buffed again to be comfortable. More is better. Armor reduces the % of physical damage you take. Stamina can soak up magical damage. If it's all physical though, it works out as

Effective Health is approx = (Health / (100-reduction%))*100 (other factors come into play like class talents such as paladin Ardent Defender reducing dmg further below 35% HP)

%Reduction = (Armor / (Armor - 22167.5 + 467.5 * Enemy_Level)) * 100

So as an example for effective health, if you had 65% reduced dmg vs a boss, and 30k health, that would be (30,000 / (100-65))*100 = (30,000 / 35)*100 = 857.14*100 = 85,714 effective health before class talents.

The more armour you have, the less physical damage you take as a %, so your effective health (amount of dmg you can take before dying without heals) goes up.

As I mentioned before though, if it's magical damage or unavoidable damage without reductions like resists, large amounts of health will help soak it up, so you're not getting 1 or 2 shotted, and the healers have time to react.

2 Espressi

copeyhagen wrote: »

didnt i read that def is / was being removed?

Aye, there's a bunch of changes to the stats in CataL
http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055848766

bad2dabone

' wrote:

[cEMAN**;65264535']50k unbuffed?

no no, 50k plus when buffed, about 55k is what I should be aiming for in 10 mans I'm told.

' wrote:

[cEMAN**;65264535'] the emphasis is on Effective Health - Stamina & Amour

interesting, can you give me any figures on what I should be aiming for?
I just logged onto armory to check my armor value and was horrified to see it quite low - until i saw my char was holding her fishing rod and not her sword and board!

][cEMAN**

50k unbuffed?

Avoidance was great before ICC. 102.4% was the crushing blow cap before WotLK, and now it's just good against Anub adds. Since ICC came out though, the emphasis is on Effective Health - Stamina & Amour. You still need to be uncrittable, and stamina emphasis can be hard on healers for healing up soaked damage, but the armour makes up for it. High HP with low armour is a waste of time. You may as well be a mage with high HP.

bad2dabone

aye Def will be removed.

When I first decided to switch from holy to protection as a paladin I concentrated on getting 102.4% avoidance (after getting def capped) which ended up that I had low-ish stamina for a tank (30 odd k at the time tier 8 content). I took very little damage off heroic bosses, once I kept holy shield up which I always do. But I was kicked from many heroic groups before they even started and couldnt even get into a pug naxx10 because of my low HP. I was SO angry a lot of the time. So feck it I said I let my avoidance fall below 102.4% to about 95% and built up my stamina, just to appease the morons.

Now i'm at 101% with 42k health and find it hard to get accepted into an ICC10.
they're looking for 50k plus.

Tis a funny old game.

At least my priest is accepted into groups otherwise I think i'ld quit again.

copeyhagen

didnt i read that def is / was being removed?

just resubbed yesterday. i fail at quitting

][cEMAN**

There is no defense cap. There is a chance to be crit by a raid boss of 5.6% (5.4% from a dungeon boss) that needs to be protected against. You can do this either by reaching 460 resilience, 540 defense (689 defense rating), or a combination of both. For dungeon bosses, you need 535 defense (665 defense rating), 443 resilience, or again a combination of both. Druids have a talent which makes them immune to crit from raid bosses.

Past 540 defense, you are fully crit immune, but you continue to gain miss/dodge/parry/block%'s, recalculated ofc by diminishing returns (block isn't affected by diminishing returns on defense).

So before people make jest of those who don't know what 'defense cap' is, make sure you know what you're talking about first.

fiinch

TheDoc wrote: »

just ingore them...

There was a time when "hitcap" actually was important. Now dont get me wrong, its still vitally important, but not for 80% of the lfg community. People ding 80 and go straight into LFGs, expecting to be carried to gear and badges, its the most frustrating thing ever.

"what the hell is a defense cap!?"

I don't play wow anymore (for now) but I found that the amount of arrogant rude people is much lower on RP servers. You actually don't need to RP just do an /emote every so often and you avoid 90% of the frustrating stuff.

cypharius

I remember when WOTLK just came out and people kept hurling abuse at me for "NOT TANKING FFS" when I was trying to explain that I wasn't in the instance, and had just joined the group, honestly, I'm in a cycle of quitting the game, remembering how much fun it was, reinstalling, getting pissed off by people bitching about how my gear sucks(I like to have gear with a bit more mana so that I can spam AOE), or people running ahead when I clearly tell them to wait, or worst of all, people who down right refuse to let me attack first, or won't get behind me so I can pull(In cases of avoiding patrolls).

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

I usually ignore them, but there are some cases where the person is just that annoying, so I whisper the healer and ask him not to heal the person giving the greif. Then I let him pull aggro

Rince and repeat. Heroics can be three manned anyway, so one DPS less is fine.

Saying that, if the healer or tank is being a díck, I normally ask them to keep quiet, It's not hard to get in people to replace them, if you have any patience.

Since the begining of the game there have been lots of elitist fools playing. These are the people that ruin the game completely. If you have a different spec to their cookie cutter spec, if your gear is odd, or your playing style is different, then you don't know what you are doing, that's a load of bull. But you have to learn that these are ignorant sheep, that follow a manual and anything outside that manual is wrong. They also set a gear standard, which is also bull, as we all know any idiot can get top end gear with boosts and the likes. What can we do about these knobs? Nothing... If it has gotten to the stage that your game is ruined by these fools then it is time to find another game.

Dcully

Do your job as best you can, and thats it, ignore the moans and stupid talk. And if its too much, you can just leave, there is no onus to stay.

Sound advice right there.

Hurry up already i've even levelled a healer now

You just miss my uber healing saving your rogue ass

Magill

nix wrote: »

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