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CCTV. Is It Right For Home Use?

Tail Wagger

Hi Guys

Talking with a guy recently about investing in CCTV. for the Home. Over the years burgled twice, just might feel more safer as I do be away a fair bit, wife on her own sometimes. someone might rob my Laurel & Hardy DVDs etc....

I'm nearly sold on the idea,
but, thinking of some of the neighbours, What would be their reaction be?

Would they think their privacy is being infringed on?

What are the legal issues on the installation of a CCTV ?

I have been assured everything is above board and legal?

Any advice, what would you think if it were next door to you?

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OutlawPete

Depends how you use it.

This Galway landlord set up video surveillance in the ceilings and walls of his tenents.

A Galway city landlord who hid miniature cameras in the ceilings of his tenant's bedroom and bathroom was sentenced to a total of 16 months in prison at Galway District Court yesterday.

Hugh O'Donnell (31), Glendara, Rahoon, pleaded guilty to harassing the woman between March 1st and 9th last year at his address.

He also pleaded guilty to having in his possession computer images of male and female children engaging in explicit sexual activity.

The accused spied on people he shared his house with over a two to three-year period before he was caught by one observant tenant who noticed the hidden cameras and made a complaint to gardaí.

In all, 49 women and 14 men, who had stayed in the rental house over the preceding years, were captured on 19 videos and CDs seized by gardaí.

Passing sentence, Judge John Garavan said O'Donnell had engaged in voyeuristic and obsessive behaviour. The young woman who had been spied on was absolutely devastated.

It would be many years before she would recover from such degradation.

"The rights of every individual to their privacy and self-respect will have to be protected," he said, before sentencing O'Donnell to nine months for harassing the tenant and a further seven months on the child pornography charge.

Tigger

Sharpshooter wrote: »

He's a gent alright, but I still wouldn't like to be seen by him on his CCTV.:pac:

If I could afford CCTV I would get it in a heartbeat.

But that's the point without the cameras whe mairt goes for a walk with the puppys the house is just a house
with CCTV the house is a house that's gonna tell on you

CianRyan

squod wrote: »

(1) No and (2) I just said I do.

Well that's fair enough then but you might want to make your posts a little clearler, so as to avoid this kind of thing in the future.:)

Tail Wagger

squod wrote: »

I've worked in security (CCTV alarms etc)for ages. That just goes to show what ejits put in and call CCTV. The top of your head isn't so recognisable. Also a grainy face from forty feet away same. Check what you're paying for, before you pay for it.

Just to clear up a few points! The guy who fits the system came round and gave me a demo. IE connected a color camera up to the TV, the picture was brilliant so crisp n' clear.

He recommends 3 cameras front/back/and side, No intrusion on neighbours property at all, side of house extends onto a small green area where lout's gather. video recorder with sensor monitoring on cameras. Cameras are vandal resistant?

Tigger

If I robbed somewhere with that system I'd rib the recorder also
a good sys records off site and has remote access

jimmycrackcorm

I'll be installing cctv at home once they bring out a model that can see through hoodies.

Sharpshooter

Tigger wrote: »

But that's the point without the cameras whe mairt goes for a walk with the puppys the house is just a house
with CCTV the house is a house that's gonna tell on you

I know, I didn't say anything negative about it.
I'd love to have CCTV as I said.:pac:

ejmaztec

OutlawPete wrote: »

Depends how you use it.

This Galway landlord set up video surveillance in the ceilings and walls of his tenents.

I wonder if the judge said "pics or gtfo" at some time during the hearing?

Tigger

Sharpshooter wrote: »

I know, I didn't say anything negative about it.
I'd love to have CCTV as I said.:pac:

It's cool the lack of body language o n here can stunt a persons Inate abality to communicate
I never thaougt you were being neg I was expanding for the groups all good

squod

Tail Wagger wrote: »

Just to clear up a few points! The guy who fits the system came round and gave me a demo. IE connected a color camera up to the TV, the picture was brilliant so crisp n' clear.

He recommends 3 cameras front/back/and side, No intrusion on neighbours property at all, side of house extends onto a small green area where lout's gather. video recorder with sensor monitoring on cameras. Cameras are vandal resistant?

Sounds fine. You'll get a better impression of how good the thing is after a few weeks of use. The local guards (as posted before) can really help if you get a good face shot of the intruder. Good luck with it.

Some are vanldal resistant. There's examples here.
http://www.cctvireland.ie/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_7&products_id=56

starbelgrade

Tail Wagger wrote: »

Just to clear up a few points! The guy who fits the system came round and gave me a demo. IE connected a color camera up to the TV, the picture was brilliant so crisp n' clear.

He recommends 3 cameras front/back/and side, No intrusion on neighbours property at all, side of house extends onto a small green area where lout's gather. video recorder with sensor monitoring on cameras. Cameras are vandal resistant?

Is he also a part time barber?

OutlawPete

ejmaztec wrote: »

I wonder if the judge said "pics or gtfo" at some time during the hearing?

It would seem that this would be almost impossible to caught doing.

Wonder how many other Landords out there have buried cctv into their ceilings and walls.

I remmeber when this story came out and my landlord was fitting some of those spot lights that run flush with the ceiling.

He went of and left one open as he said he needed a special seal fo it and couldn't get one for a week.

I was convinced he had something up there.

Was shining my cigarette lighter and everything in the hole to see if I could spot a few VCR's and a couple of mini-cams or something :cool:

starbelgrade

OutlawPete wrote: »

It would seem that this would be almost impossible to caught doing.

Wonder how many other Landords out there have buried cctv into their ceilings and walls.

I remmeber when this story came out and my landlord was fitting some of those spot lights that run flush with the ceiling.

He went of and left one open as he said he needed a special seal fo it and couldn't get one for a week.

I was convinced he had something up there.

Was shining my cigarette lighter and everything in the hole to see if I could spot a few VCR's and a couple of mini-cams or something :cool:

Was that when you lived in the Big Brother house?

Tigger

lol there was a bloke in sligo e=with cameras in all his sun tanning rooms
he didn't getr jail tho

OutlawPete

starbelgrade wrote: »

Was that when you lived in the Big Brother house?

You know who I really am?? :eek:

Spiral here, how's it goin .. what's the story bud?

Theta

We have a 4 camera system and its pretty decent. If some junkie is walking down a row of houses I think he may skip the one with CCTV and go to the next one.

cafecolour

I've always been told the best theft prevention you can get is a dog.

I don't know about CCTV. It could be a deterrent, or it could just make you look like you've got something worth stealing.

Tail Wagger

No just on a corner site, exposed a bit on two sides. I'd really be exposed on blind side of house. I planted bushes and trees a couple of years ago and there well up.. it's just a little bit of extra security, thats all..

anyway if I see the mother-in-law driving down the road I won't have to answer the door when she calls?

daveharnett

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

I'll be installing cctv at home once they bring out a model that can see through hoodies.

Every chance that police will be able to recognize local serial offenders based on clothes and build alone. There's also the option of covert cameras at eye level instead of/in addition to the visible overhead cams.

OP, lots of people would be delighted if a neighbor's cameras overlooked their front yard. Ask them - if they aren't happy about the idea, assure them that the cameras won't overlook their property, and that you'll demonstrate same once the install is done.

Denmark101

Once it's facing into your front and rear garden I can't imagine your neighbours will mind. You can get discrete looking cameras. I think having them in your home is a bit much though.