koolkid wrote: » I take it the apartment is not wired. Signet 100 (with PSTN dialler) with wireless Pir & Contact would probobly be about €600 Monitoring & maintenance about €300 per year .
pele10 wrote: » Looking at getting an alarm into an 5th floor apartment. It would only really be required for the entrance door as other doors are glass and onto a balcony. Windows would not be accessible either for an intruder. Been looking around and systems are all very expensive with monitoring etc. Basically I am looking for a wirefree alarm with possilbly a sensor on the apartment door and a motion detector in the living room. Anyone got any suggestions?
koolkid wrote: » It could possibly be an issue with your provider. Is modem GSM or connected to your land line? If its on your landline check can you text all the numbers from your home phone.
Big Dee wrote: » Hi all I have recently had a HKC SecureWatch wired alarm fitted to my house. I requested and received the text modem part that texts you when the alarm goes off etc as we do not work far from the house. I give the installers my number, that of my wife and my mother in laws. They sent a test text but neither my wife or I received it. He then tried his own number and his assistants. Both phones beeped almost immediately. They checked and reentered our numbers several times, but still no texts!:mad: The mother in law then rang to say she had received several messages. The only common denominator is that both my wife and I are with Three Mobile. We have 086 and 087 numbers from 10 years ago. Is there a special prefix required for 3 mobile? Has anyone encountered this problem before? Thanks in advance.
koolkid wrote: » Asok ,if you are in an Apartment then get onto your property managemant to chase up the owners. Any apartments we would do would have a 90 minute cut out on the internal siren,
hmadro wrote: » Just an Opinion and a right to reply, thats what boards is all about after all.
delly wrote: » Indeed, but you will learn to be a little less hostile please. Feel free to express your opinions, but as a first time post you have zero credit starting off and should take some time to see how discussions are conducted while displaying respect to your fellow posters.
koolkid wrote: » If you are going to make claims that Astec & SigNet do not conform to standards I would advise you back these up with some facts. Remember you personally can be held responsible for what you post. I have had Astec panels & signet panels inspected recently by NSAI. Both got a clean sheet, no non-conformities. Is there something you know that the NSAI dont?? Regarding internal cut out times. I inform customers of the vunerability of all bells cut out after 15 minutes. The timers are then adjusted at the customers request & noted in the as fitted document. I have never had a system fail inspection on these issues,so why would I need to be calling back?
hmadro wrote: » I ... stated that eol resistors are not a requirement in EN 50131-1 GRADE 1 OR 2,
hmadro wrote: » secondly an As Fitted Document should only be used if the specification changes on the day of the installation
hmadro wrote: » AFD does not give you or your client the right to increase bell times, the standard is as it is, 15 mins max ext/int bell with a min of 90 secs. Therefore it non conforms, clear as mud, vulnerbility has nothing to do with it, IS199 standards may have been optionial but EN 50131-1 standards are mandatory, hence there introduction. Ask your inspector on your next inspection, look forward to his reply
hmadro wrote: » Hi Kookid, been reading your comments with a lot of interest lately, you seem to be some kind of expert in your field but that it is a matter of opinion and you would know all about expressing them but hey thats allowed. You give some really sound advice here, theres no doubting that, however heres mine. I would like to clarify a couple of your expert points from past posts 1 Regarding the use of EOL resistors being non compliant in EN 50131-1 systems, this is not true, no where in the standard does it mention resistors as mandatory in a Grade 1 or 2 system. That was the case in IS 199 systems, but that standard is now defunct since 2003. Now Grade 3 and 4, thats a different matter, but then again your favoured so called feature rich panels Astec and Ge don't meet this standard, right ?. And yes before you start Signet does, along with the Galaxy range, however thats for another day. 2. Secondly if you are installing systems in apartments with 90 minute internal bell cut out times, you my friend have been installing non compliant systems. Have a careful read of the standard and you will note the maximum ring time for an internal and external bell is 15 mins with a minimum of 90 secs allowed, the strobe must flash continuously until the system is unset. I expect you will be calling back to these systems and rectifying them, that would be right thing to do . With all the years of experience and varoius inspections under your belt, i thought you would be aware of the above but hey as I say every day is a school day. Just an Opinion and a right to reply, thats what boards is all about after all. Would love to meet for a coffee, if your not too busy and discuss this great little Irish Industry we work in and the great changes that are a coming soon.
Jnealon wrote: » The internal bell issue would be classed as a minor non conformance imo. Personally I would not do it as that's what the rearm is for but that's only my opinion
pipkato wrote: » Hello. I’m going to have a first time alarm fitted in an old house. I’ve been lurking here and having a scan across this really useful ‘sticky’ on alarms, but I’m still confused about the options open to me. So I hope someone can understand my queries and help. 1. The terraced house in question has the following that need securing: 3 Doors 11 windows (8 with easy access) 2. I’ll be trying the obvious Eircom Phonewatch, but I’ve no idea whether their system is good, bad, or indifferent. The monitoring is attractive, although I hate the idea of giving any more money to that company. Are there any competitive all-in alternatives to Eircom that include monitoring? 3. Should the alarm be wireless or wired? I’ve seen some wireless DIY systems on the web that look do-able, but I’m not sure if I’d lose the option of certification and therefore any home insurance discount. 4. Some of the moderators on this board mentioned the Risco Agility system. It looks powerful and expandable with options like IP access for browsers, remote IP Camera monitoring etc. which appeal to me. Is this a good choice? Any recommended alternatives? Can anyone suggest a Dublin installer? Any idea what price I should expect to pay? In fact I’d appreciate any general advice or pointers to links that might go some way to helping me decide. Thanks.
itsallaboutme!! wrote: » Hi I've been reading through the posts on here trying to see if what I wanted to ask has been covered already. Cant seem to find it but if I've missed it I do apologise:o Ok so I moved into my house almost 3 years ago now, came fitted with an aritech cs350 alarm. All we were given by the estate agent was the code which we never bothered to change(bad idea i know but we dont know how:o). anway all has been fine with it except for one thing. The alarm will go off even when it is not set and when we enter the code to disarm it reads "tamper" "bell tamper". now this was happening very rarely and mainly when it was extremely cold or windy out so we figured it was to do with that. but recently it has been going of alot more and even when the alarm is set. it has gone off 5 or 6 times in the last week. twice at 3am and each time states the same bell tamper thing. on one occassion it went off at night and when we disarmed it, it stated "G4 downstairs" and we cannot figure out where this zone is.we have tried setting the alarm and opening doors and windows to find it but to no avail. phew so after that long post Im wondering does anyone have any ideas on what the problem could be, rough idea of costs to sort problem and recommend someone reliable in Blanchardstown area that could do the job?? Thanks in advance and once again apologies if this has been covered and ive missed it:)
itsallaboutme!! wrote: » koolkid the only code we have for the alarm is the one that the estate agent gave us to set it. we tried the steps you outlined but after we enter the code the alarm just goes to full set and we cant get any further
