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I really shouldn't laugh at the recently deceased but...

Hazys

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Fcuking idiots, good enough for the cowards...

Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN) -- Fourteen suspected terrorists died Tuesday night when the bus they rigged with explosives blew up prematurely, police said.
The explosion occurred as the suspects were riding the bus in the province of Kunduz, said police chief Abdul Raziq Yaqobi.
Yaqobi said the suspects wanted to attack Afghan police or foreign soldiers.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/01/06/afghan.terrorists.killed/index.html

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Max Power1

hah

stupidity and explosives, not a good mix it seems!

BraziliaNZ

i never understood how anyone can call a suicide bomber a coward? Extremely brave and passionate in my opinion

Max Power1

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

i never understood how anyone can call a suicide bomber a coward? Extremely brave and passionate in my opinion

:mad:
you sir, are mistaken.

To say the very, very least

BraziliaNZ

Max Power1 wrote: »

:mad:
you sir, are mistaken.

To say the very, very least

In that case Bobby Sands was a coward, killing himself to get a message across, maybe Maggie was right?

SoulTrader

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

i never understood how anyone can call a suicide bomber a coward? Extremely brave and passionate in my opinion

Hmmm. I see what you're saying but, I still think there is cowardice in not being around to face the consequences of your actions. You can die believing you're a hero, but you'll never have to look the families of the innocent victims in the eye, and you will never stand trial for your actions.

Jesus Wept

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

i never understood how anyone can call a suicide bomber a coward? Extremely brave and passionate in my opinion

If they firmly believe the crap they do about an afterlife, it seems like an easy choice, not a brave one.

Hazys

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

i never understood how anyone can call a suicide bomber a coward? Extremely brave and passionate in my opinion

BS

Blowing yourself up so you go to heaven, not facing punishment for your crime or the kids of the people you killed, killing unexpecting innocent people...sorry i meant to say Heros not cowards.

BraziliaNZ

SoulTrader wrote: »

Hmmm. I see what you're saying but, I still think there is cowardice in not being around to face the consequences of your actions. You can die believing you're a hero, but you'll never have to look the families of the innocent victims in the eye, and you will never stand trial for your actions.

Are the Americans cowards for using drone planes to take out targets and firing missiles from warships etc? The Afghans are merely resorting to this because they don't have technology like Team America

Max Power1

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

In that case Bobby Sands was a coward, killing himself to get a message across, maybe Maggie was right?

HOW THE HELL IS THAT THE SAME SITUATTION?

Did bobby sands blow anyone else up? NO. You are dangerously misinformed. *

*to say the least, were i to say what i really want to say about you i would be banned. Your troll like posts are not worth getting banned over

SoulTrader

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

In that case Bobby Sands was a coward, killing himself to get a message across, maybe Maggie was right?

Sorry to intervene on someone else's comment but, although I don't support republican violence, I can't say Bobby Sands was a coward, because he only took his own life during the hunger-strike. That to me is an extremely dignified protest, ending with the ultimate human sacrifice.

Support his cause or not, nobody can call Bobby Sands a coward.

BraziliaNZ

SoulTrader wrote: »

Sorry to intervene on someone else's comment but, although I don't support republican violence, I can't say Bobby Sands was a coward, because he only took his own life during the hunger-strike. That to me is an extremely dignified protest, ending with the ultimate human sacrifice.

Support his cause or not, nobody can call Bobby Sands a coward.

Yeah i guess it's different as it was only himself

Max Power1

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

i never understood how anyone can call a suicide bomber a coward? Extremely brave and passionate in my opinion

How would you like it if i was "brave and passionate" and blew myself up, killing your mother/immediate family?

BraziliaNZ

Max Power1 wrote: »

How would you like it if i was "brave and passionate" and blew myself up, killing your mother/immediate family?

well I would hate you. But there is hatrid on both sides in a war.

SoulTrader

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

Are the Americans cowards for using drone planes to take out targets and firing missiles from warships etc? The Afghans are merely resorting to this because they don't have technology like Team America

This is off-topic. I never mentioned America. Don't try and steer the thread into some sort of anti-American rant.

we'llallhavetea_old

well, back on topic here, i dunno if i'm amused. like i can see how its funny, but really i'm just thinkin 14 less dangerous crazies. phew!

Max Power1

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

well I would hate you. But there is hatrid on both sides in a war.

But would you respect me and state that my actions were those of a brave man, whose passion for the cause in which he killed my family is none but admirable

BraziliaNZ

SoulTrader wrote: »

This is off-topic. I never mentioned America. Don't try and steer the thread into some sort of anti-American rant.

by foreign soldiers i presumed they meant to blow up UK/USA troops

BraziliaNZ

Max Power1 wrote: »

But would you respect me and state that my actions were those of a brave man, whose passion for the cause in which he killed my family is none but admirable

no but if your family was killed by one of my rockets do you think you'd respect me?

MarkR

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

In that case Bobby Sands was a coward, killing himself to get a message across, maybe Maggie was right?

I think you'll find that suicide bombing does not get filed under "peaceful methods of protest"

BraziliaNZ

MarkR wrote: »

I think you'll find that suicide bombing does not get filed under "peaceful methods of protest"

I know, bad comparison sorry.
Anyway, I'm not a big fan of American (Western) Imperialism, and these people only do this because they're so bloody desperate, mad b*stards but I think they've been driven to it if you ask me. Nuff said.

Edit: Did people laugh when IRA "volunteers" blew themselves up?

Gaspode

Couldnt have happened to a nicer bunch of lads.

RoadKillTs

Ah the poor fellas. Live by the sword, die by the sword

minidazzler

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

i never understood how anyone can call a suicide bomber a coward? Extremely brave and passionate in my opinion

The object of war, my dear boy, is not to die for ones cause, but to make the other fellow die for his.

Nothing brave about walking into a market and blowing up innocent people.

ejmaztec

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

I know, bad comparison sorry.
Anyway, I'm not a big fan of American (Western) Imperialism, and these people only do this because they're so bloody desperate, mad b*stards but I think they've been driven to it if you ask me. Nuff said.

Edit: Did people laugh when IRA "volunteers" blew themselves up?

They certainly were -"tickets please".

Saint_Mel

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

i never understood how anyone can call a suicide bomber a coward? Extremely brave and passionate in my opinion

... and with 72 virgins waiting for them they'd be stupid not to do it!

minidazzler

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

I know, bad comparison sorry.
Anyway, I'm not a big fan of American (Western) Imperialism, and these people only do this because they're so bloody desperate, mad b*stards but I think they've been driven to it if you ask me. Nuff said.

Edit: Did people laugh when IRA "volunteers" blew themselves up?

They probably did.

But on the first points, eh, desperate, yeah they are desperate, doesn't mean innocents should die. Nor should anyone. Blowing yourself up is a cowardly way to fight a war, and it's most unsporting.

BraziliaNZ

minidazzler wrote: »

They probably did.

But on the first points, eh, desperate, yeah they are desperate, doesn't mean innocents should die. Nor should anyone. Blowing yourself up is a cowardly way to fight a war, and it's most unsporting.

well they're not exactly heroes on the other side either. Dirty war. And isn't all fair anyway?

minidazzler

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

well they're not exactly heroes on the other side either. Dirty war. And isn't all fair anyway?

History is written by the winners, if the Afghan war ever ends, guess who will be the heroes.

And rightfully too IMO.

lugha

Max Power1 wrote: »

Did bobby sands blow anyone else up? NO. You are dangerously misinformed. *

He was a member of the IRA and presumably would have carried out a gun or bomb attack if asked. Yes, personally he was quite brave, but still wrong.

Gurgle

BraziliaNZ wrote: »

i never understood how anyone can call a suicide bomber a coward? Extremely brave and passionate in my opinion

I'd almost be inclined to think this, but....

What is the fcuking point?

Shortcut to heaven - I know of no religious text that incentivizes shortcuts. To die in battle while defending the faith is just wonderful, but this isn't battle.

Fight the invaders - Geurrilla warfare is long established as the most effective way to fight an enemy who out-numbers and out-guns you. Hit the bases and the soldiers, not the civvys.

A warning to collaborators - Showing them how much human life would be valued if the invaders weren't here and the 'resistance' took over. Not much of an incentive to help the cause.

The only possible 'gain' through a suicide bombing of civilians is that you can show how 'committed' your people are. So its a demonstration of both cowardice and incompetence on the part of the leaders, and of retarded gullibility on the part of the bombers.

Or pointless waste of life in other words.